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Quadriplegic Passenger Forced Off Frontier Flight
www.thedenverchannel.com ^ | POSTED: 11:05 pm MDT June 19, 2011 UPDATED: 1:15 pm MDT June 20, 2011 | Jaclyn Allen and Alan Gathright

Posted on 06/20/2011 12:42:46 PM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 06/20/2011 12:42:51 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Like this guy doesn’t have enough problems!!


2 posted on 06/20/2011 12:44:42 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Red Badger

The ADA suit is all but automatic.


3 posted on 06/20/2011 12:46:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Red Badger

Not a pilot, he was the Captain. The Captain has the authority to take off or not. There must be other things going on here. I fly Frontier frequently and have seen handicapped people, there has never been an issue.


4 posted on 06/20/2011 12:46:57 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Red Badger

Another airline I won’t be flying.


5 posted on 06/20/2011 12:48:17 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: svcw

The family was put on the next flight and that captain had no problems. The original captain must be an idiot...........


6 posted on 06/20/2011 12:49:21 PM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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You throw enough seat belt extension/restraints on him plus a bunch of duct tape and he won’t go anywhere out of that seat.


7 posted on 06/20/2011 12:50:12 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Red Badger

The Captain of the plane is the end all and be all of authority for what is safe on his flight because he is 100% responsible for that plane, her crew, and her passengers once it backs away from the gate.

If a Captain has a doubt then the plane doesn’t fly.

Sensitivities and political correctness do not apply when it comes to some things.


8 posted on 06/20/2011 12:55:07 PM PDT by MeganC (NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
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To: Red Badger

The captain has the ultimate decision on issues regarding passenger safety on a plane

Period, end of sentence.

Flying isn’t a right, and you fly on a Captain’s aircraft at his discretion. It is in the Federal Air Regulations, spelled out very clearly.

This passenger shouldn’t have been carried the first time, he should have flown on an “air ambulance” flight. Those aircraft are staffed and equipped to handle passengers in this condition.


9 posted on 06/20/2011 12:55:07 PM PDT by wrench
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sure, he won’t go anywhere out of that seat....and then there is an emergency and passengers need to be evacuated ....

I’m giving the Captain some benefit of the doubt that HE has the authority to make the call about what he believes is safe for passengers on HIS plane


10 posted on 06/20/2011 12:55:23 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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"The ADA suit is all but automatic."

He doesn't have a leg to stand on.

sorry.

11 posted on 06/20/2011 12:55:25 PM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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>>He doesn’t have a leg to stand on.<<

Floodgates are now officially open...

They should have told the pilot they were just transporting Art.

(neither of us is going to Heaven, are we?)


12 posted on 06/20/2011 12:59:35 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: wrench
Flying isn’t a right, and you fly on a Captain’s aircraft at his discretion. It is in the Federal Air Regulations, spelled out very clearly. This passenger shouldn’t have been carried the first time, he should have flown on an “air ambulance” flight. Those aircraft are staffed and equipped to handle passengers in this condition.

I wonder why they don't have specially equipped aircraft for certain passengers who happen to be Maniacal Murdering Moslems?

13 posted on 06/20/2011 1:00:39 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans freed the Slaves Month")
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To: silverleaf

since he is a quad in the even of a crash he still won’t be going anywhere since he can’t move his legs or arms. Even if he gets loose from his seat in the crash and is blocking the way out the other passengers will just kick him to the side in the panic of it all.

Once they calm down they’ll all ask where the Duct Tape boy is.


14 posted on 06/20/2011 1:01:49 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Red Badger

Personally, I hate to second guess an authority that is responsible for safety when they choose the conservative route. Would passengers have been angry with the captain of the Titanic if he took a longer route? Probably.

We have no idea of the sum total of the multiple considerations that the pilot may have synthesized to arrive at his conclusion, weather, experience of crew, number of passengers, flight length, other passengers needing assistance, his own crews concerns etc. We give this man the responsibility to decide rather than using a computer program because no two situations will be the same.


15 posted on 06/20/2011 1:04:28 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: silverleaf

I’m giving the Captain some benefit of the doubt that HE has the authority to make the call about what he believes is safe for passengers on HIS plane

I’ll do the same, and then I’ll inject the fact that he appears to be a heartless ash whole, without a concern for passengers, or the company he works for. He mishandled the entire situation IMHO and should be explaining his lack of tact and courtesy to management, who can then decide if they want his brand of company representation.


16 posted on 06/20/2011 1:09:21 PM PDT by wita
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Flying isn’t a right, and you fly on a Captain’s aircraft at his discretion.

True. But I doubt the decision of the captain not to fly someone insulates the airline from a lawsuit.

17 posted on 06/20/2011 1:10:31 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Join the AFL-CIO. The Communist Party needs new blood.)
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>>You throw enough seat belt extension/restraints on him plus a bunch of duct tape and he won’t go anywhere out of that seat.<<

I am trying to picture how they put that into the safety briefing....


18 posted on 06/20/2011 1:10:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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“duct tape boy”

Oh, you is bad Mist Rhett

But seriously I suppose the airlines are to be commended for allowing near-totally disabled passengers to fly, with presumably only family members as personal aides

I suspect it was the lack of an appproved seatbelt that was the problem, and for an emergency and evacuation, this pilot thought it could be a problem

Frontier liable to get sued if they do, or if they don’t
Family is acting like Frontier put this guy in a wheelchair
Life happens, sometimes it sucks, Get over it


19 posted on 06/20/2011 1:11:20 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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.... If a Captain has a doubt then the plane doesn’t fly. ....

You are quite correct. But if I were his employer I'd have to look at his decision here in light of what all the other pilots have done for this young man in deciding as to whether he has the ability to make these kind of calls for the airline and their passenger customers. As his employer I might come to the conclusion that he doesn't have the correct temperament to be a pilot for the airline. If he blew a call like this how might he react under some real pressure.

20 posted on 06/20/2011 1:11:43 PM PDT by Ron H. (The world may change but Gods word and commandments remain the same.)
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