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Andrea Yates could be freed by the end of this year
Daily Mail ^ | 8:31 PM on 20th June 2011 | By David Gardner

Posted on 06/20/2011 4:28:53 PM PDT by Niuhuru

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1 posted on 06/20/2011 4:28:56 PM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: Niuhuru

The detestable Perky One will be thrilled. No doubt where Yates will land for an interview.


2 posted on 06/20/2011 4:37:02 PM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Niuhuru

Out by the end of the year?

Did she plea down to Providing Swimming Lessons Without a Permit?


3 posted on 06/20/2011 4:39:52 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Niuhuru

This woman was really a case of Post Partnum depression.
Her bizzare family refused to follow through with mental health treatment that she had begun, especially anti psychotic depression medicine.

Her husband insisted she also Home school all the children AFTER she already had several breakdowns.

I really feel this woman, now no doubt having received help for her mental illness, will leave jail realizing what she did.

A horrible tragedy that did not need to happen.


4 posted on 06/20/2011 4:41:03 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: trumandogz

Before medicine and treatment for Post Partum Depression this occurence was much more frequent in the past and usually women who had this illness were put into “insane asylums” forever, and never received help ( cause there wasn’t any treatment 70 years ago.


5 posted on 06/20/2011 4:43:02 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

She belongs in a cold dark damp cage.


6 posted on 06/20/2011 4:45:52 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Niuhuru

Andrea Yates was found guilty in the first trial but the verdict was overturned on appeal becausse of erroneous testimony. The 2nd trial she was found not guilty by reason of insanity and was placed in a mental hospital. She would be released at the point in time the shrinks determined she was no longer insane. I guess that determination has been reached.


7 posted on 06/20/2011 4:54:15 PM PDT by deport
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To: Niuhuru
'I think that this year the doctors will recommend a regimen of therapy in a community-based outpatient facility,' he added.

***SIGH***, liberalism is definately a mental disorder. This women murdered her children, one by one, but, you know, it was just a mental disorder, so it really wasn't her fault...SHEESH!

This women should be executed or at least spend the rest of her life in prison.

I prefer execution for murderers.

8 posted on 06/20/2011 5:02:13 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I agree with you. IMO, it’s the husband who should have gone to jail. If you know the whole story, he was apparently a tyrant who kept impregnating her when she kept going into severe depressions with each pregnancy.

He never gave her a hand with the kids or the home schooling—just demanded that she do. It must have been a living hell for her.


9 posted on 06/20/2011 5:08:23 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Niuhuru

I certainly hope she’s been declared an unfit mother and not allowed to keep any if she has more.


10 posted on 06/20/2011 5:09:07 PM PDT by MissMack99 (BO Stinks!)
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To: Niuhuru

A number of years ago a local woman drowned three of her children and went to a state hospital.

Years later she was released, had three more children and then drowned them.

There are many mentally ill who are not killers.

I do not think that mental illness is a excuse not to execute. The propensity to kill is there, and the public needs to be protected.


11 posted on 06/20/2011 5:09:19 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: Niuhuru

The husband was useless and should have been charged with criminal neglect of mother and children. As for the madwoman, she has something beyond postpartum psychosis, needs to stay locked down.


12 posted on 06/20/2011 5:30:24 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: Niuhuru

Wowwww, she had a good lawyer.


13 posted on 06/20/2011 5:30:38 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: basil

When you know the whole story it is sickening and so tragic.

The Mental Health professionals and her doctors told the family she should not get pregnant again and begged the family to bring her and cooperate with treatment. The husband is one weird man, I can’t imagine any caring husband and father doing what he did.


14 posted on 06/20/2011 5:32:24 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: PROCON

Read the whole story and you will have a different view.

This is not a woman who just wanted to dump her kids, as in other stories. This woman had a psychotic depression. If you knew even the slightest about mental illness, you would be able to tell the difference. Also, it is very difficult to get an insanity defence.

But then, 70 years ago we just killed “mental defectives”..maybe you want to go back to that? And it was the PROGRESSIVES who wanted to kill mentally ill people, as well as pushing abortion for “ defectives”.


15 posted on 06/20/2011 5:37:38 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Niuhuru

What a state Texas is, kill your kids and get away with it.


16 posted on 06/20/2011 5:39:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Havisham

Postpartum depression can create such a situation.

Most medical professions are very, very concerned about this illness. In this case, the doctors pleaded with the husband and family for this woman to get help, not have more children and take medicine. The husband and family deliberately refused all that.


17 posted on 06/20/2011 5:40:46 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Dahoser

I’m sure Oprah has her aides all over her, just like she is gunning for Jaycee Dugard.


18 posted on 06/20/2011 5:40:46 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: dfwgator

You, also do not know this story.

Read the whole account and then make such an off the cuff remark.


19 posted on 06/20/2011 5:43:22 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Niuhuru

hopefully they won’t release her


20 posted on 06/20/2011 5:43:47 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“This woman was really a case of Post Partnum depression.”

No, it was the more severe diagnosis of Post Partum Psychosis. It has been proven that the dumping of hormones can, in rare cases, become so severe after childbirth, for months, that the mother can have a break with reality and be compelled to act in ways harmful to herself and children. Her husband did not get her the help she needed.


21 posted on 06/20/2011 5:45:21 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: PROCON
Her husband was more responsible for killing the kids than this poor crazy woman.

That you don't understand that doesn't matter.

BTW, her control freak husband wasted no time remarrying and started having more kids.

We have the death penalty in TX...do you have it in your state?

22 posted on 06/20/2011 5:45:50 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: PROCON; Chickensoup

I talked once with my therapist about this woman at the time of the murders and (because I was diagnosed as mentally ill) he told me that he had taken a look at the psychological profile of Yates and it apparently pointed out that she lacked empathy and had several traits that killers (cold blooded) usually have. She was hardly just mentally ill. If she ends up killing again (likely), I am more than hopeful that next time around, she gets death. Her husband isn’t at fault, according to many, he suggested putting the kids in normal schooling, but she wouldn’t agree to it.


23 posted on 06/20/2011 5:47:51 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: plain talk

I’m hopeful they don’t. This had to have been premeditated; she locked the doors, blocked off escape routes, and had to chase the last kid around the house until she cuaght him. This wasn’t something spontaneous.


24 posted on 06/20/2011 5:49:16 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: MissMack99

Same here; I doubt she will manage to find any interested suitors or men interested in going within a mile of her. She shoudl just stay locked up.


25 posted on 06/20/2011 5:50:24 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Yaelle

We are both correct...

It was a case of Psychotic Post Partum Depression...a Post Partum Depression can BECOME Psychotic Depression...

Now, could you please explain that again to the posters that think she “got away “ with murder. They don’t believe this could happen.


26 posted on 06/20/2011 5:51:20 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I read the whole story and my opinion has not changed other to say to you that I believe the diagnosis of mental illness is way too over prescribed.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that some folks do suffer from these illnesses, but in this day and age, (the past 30 years, perhaps), too many criminals have been getting off on legal technicalities because of their so-called mental illness; sorry, FRiend, but murder is murder, it's the taking of another human life, and regardless of the reason, the guilty need to be held accountable and be punished accordingly.

I don't want to kill anyone, I just want justice served.

27 posted on 06/20/2011 5:52:23 PM PDT by PROCON (Liberals Mistake Education and Knowledge for Wisdom and Common-Sense.)
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To: Niuhuru
You are full of information that I've never heard before...and I got the local news about it at the time.

Your therapist should have taken a look at her husband's psychological profile.

I hope you changed therapists.

28 posted on 06/20/2011 5:52:25 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

Thanks for that post...I forgot about him remarrying and having more kids.


29 posted on 06/20/2011 5:52:27 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Lots of women go through it and they don’t kill their kids. Usually they end up crying their hearts out, yelling at their husbands, and sulking and feeling self pity. Most others would torch themselves rather than lay a hand on their kids to harm them.


30 posted on 06/20/2011 5:52:31 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: lonestar

It used to be that people lived in communities worthy of the name, and had extended families and friends who helped one another out. That sort of society probably provided more real help to women with post-partum issues than our broken society. We have people living in their own little castles, which sounds good but doesn’t lend itself to dealing with situations like this where a helpful friend or family member could have made all the difference in the world.


31 posted on 06/20/2011 5:53:32 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (For by grace are you saved through faith.)
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To: PROCON

In America, crazy people are exempt from punishment. There is a cottage industry to make excuses for this trash.


32 posted on 06/20/2011 5:54:07 PM PDT by Darryl Lecht ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: PROCON

I once mentioned that mental illness, being in a category different from usual cases of murder, usually end up acquitted. I stated on a thread about Jared Loughner (Tucson shooter) that insanity should be punished in an entirely different way, not used as an excuse to let someone off of the hook.


33 posted on 06/20/2011 5:54:15 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Get another therapist.

As to your idea that the husband wanted the kids in ‘normal schooling”, uh, not.


34 posted on 06/20/2011 5:54:49 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
This woman was really a case of Post Partnum depression.

I don't care what your excuse is, you murder five kids you need to be put down.

This Freudian nonsense that treats people like machines excuses all kinds of horrific behavior. When you excuse and justify evil you wind up with a lot more of it.

35 posted on 06/20/2011 5:54:55 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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Having had to deal with crazy people for some time, I think there is a HUGE need to start getting these loonies in line.


36 posted on 06/20/2011 5:55:01 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
He's a real "piece of work." A real jerk!

Remember, too, I think some of the time he had her homeschooling, they were living in a school bus.

That's enough to drive anybody in their right mind ...crazy! LOL!

37 posted on 06/20/2011 5:57:11 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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Well, golly, then lets go back 70 years and just kill mentally ill people..cause that is where this line of thinking goes. And eye for an eye...right?

you are wrong, that the insanity defence is NOT easy to get off on...and the statistics prove that. the person is still held accountable. this woman WAs punished.

You want justice served? ha. She will live with this for the rest of her life...now that she is not psychotic and can see what she did.


38 posted on 06/20/2011 5:59:20 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: hopespringseternal

I agree.

People bash the husband for not knowing, well, how does anyone think he felt, coming home to the police and the bodies of his children? Think that wouldn’t wreck the lives of a guy? Think that a man wouldn’t want to move on? She KILLED those kids and in some fuzzy way, knew what she was doing. She killed them methodically and systematically and chased the last kid down who was screaming for his life. There’s a difference between the baby blues and being a killer.


39 posted on 06/20/2011 6:00:21 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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Ok, you have no idea of different types of mental illness.Can’t help you there.

to avoid future ignorance on this topic I humbly suggest you read about “ Postpartum Depression.”


40 posted on 06/20/2011 6:01:13 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I will, but really, she needed to be put down.


41 posted on 06/20/2011 6:01:57 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“You want justice served? ha. She will live with this for the rest of her life...now that she is not psychotic and can see what she did.”

Good - maybe she’ll wake up, take her own life, and we can be done with this loser.


42 posted on 06/20/2011 6:02:31 PM PDT by Darryl Lecht ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: hopespringseternal

Afraid of mental illness?

Mental Illness is not an excuse, no one said she was not guilty of her actions.


43 posted on 06/20/2011 6:03:01 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Liberty1970
IIRC, part of his control was to keep her isolated from her family and friends. I believe she was in therapy and on meds at the time.

Living with what she did is worse than any punishment a court could hand down.

44 posted on 06/20/2011 6:03:18 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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Her husband was more responsible for killing the kids than this poor crazy woman.

WHAT?!

This poor, crazy woman, huh?

How can anyone assign guilt to someone other than the perpetrator?? This woman drowned her 5 children...did her husband tell her to? He may of been a domineering husband but what happened to personal responsibility?

Come-on FRiend, maybe I don't understand all of the circumstances, but I do know that people need to be accountable for their own actions!

And here in Oregon we do have the death penalty, but we're too liberal to execute anyone..:=(

45 posted on 06/20/2011 6:03:57 PM PDT by PROCON (Liberals Mistake Education and Knowledge for Wisdom and Common-Sense.)
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To: Darryl Lecht

I bet you’re a Christian too...ha, you are so sensitve and charming, much be a delight to all your friends.


46 posted on 06/20/2011 6:11:52 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: basil

Yes, the husband was fanatical and a tyrant. Very sad case, didn’t have to happen.


47 posted on 06/20/2011 6:20:55 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I do know the story....Five kids are dead....she killed them....end of story.


48 posted on 06/20/2011 6:22:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Your charm is to accommodate murderers. Good luck with that.


49 posted on 06/20/2011 6:25:16 PM PDT by Darryl Lecht ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

If she is aware of evil and repentant, why not let her watch your kids?


50 posted on 06/20/2011 6:33:11 PM PDT by Darryl Lecht ("Head down over a saddle.")
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