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New York Gay Marriage Bill Needs Only One More GOP Nod For It To Pass
LA Times ^ | June 24, 2011 | Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 06/24/2011 3:20:14 PM PDT by lbryce

The New York gay marriage bill introduced by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo needs only one more yea vote from a Republican senator to pass. If that vote materializes, New York would become the sixth and most populous state to allow same-sex marriage.

President Obama received mixed reviews after speaking Thursday night to supporters of the bill at a Democratic fundraiser in New York City. More than 600 gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people paid $1,250 each to attend the gala.

The president's critics argue that although he said he supports equal rights for gays and lesbians, he won't come right out and support same-sex marriage.

LZ Granderson, an openly gay journalist for ESPN and CNN, said he wanted to be mad at Obama (like some of those who heckled the president during his speech), but ultimately he understood that now was not the time for the president to publicly support the redefinition of marriage.

Granderson wrote on CNN that "as inspiring as it would have been to hear the president say he supports marriage equality, Thursday night simply was not the right time."

"And it won't be tomorrow, or even next week," he continued. "That's not a defeatist attitude wrapped in dogmatism, but rather the depressing voice of pragmatism."

Daily Beast writer Nancy Goldstein was less forgiving in her piece Friday that carried the headline "Obama’s Gay Marriage Wimp-Out" and concluded: "If Thursday night’s performance is any indication, this president, left to his own devices and with a pocketful of LGBT checks, does not appear to share our sense of urgency."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abomination; cuomo; depravity; fdrq; gay; gayrights; homosexualagenda; legalperversion; ny
Passage of the bill is imminent. That it was a GOP member having facilitated the bill into law makes it all the more galling.
1 posted on 06/24/2011 3:20:20 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: All; lbryce

Whatever happens, let’s let them know what we think:

http://www.nationformarriage.org/c.omL2KeN0LzH/b.7529085/k.8DEA/New_York_Senate/siteapps/advocacy/ActionItem.aspx?msource=EC110624NT


2 posted on 06/24/2011 3:24:41 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Here’s what I never understand.

We’re told that homosexual marriage and “gay” issues in general are the civil rights battle of our time.

If this is the civil rights battle of our time, why are so few mainstream politicians on board supporting homosexual marriage?

In the civil rights movement of the ‘50s and ‘60s, many mainstream politicians, including many Republicans (which surprises liberals today, but facts are stubborn things), supported the civil rights movement, and Congress passed major civil rights laws.

But today, this liberal president is afraid to say he supports same-sex marriage.

During the civil rights movement, while there was stiff opposition, esp. among southern Democrats, many mainstream politicians were openly in support of the movement. But today’s movement for homosexual marriage does not have such support. In fact, given the silence, I’m sure many politicos wish the issue would go away.

While a liberal state such as New York may pass a law on homosexual marriage, where’s the leadership among liberals in Washington on this issue? Why are they afraid to proclaim their support, if this is the civil rights battle of this generation, and liberals tell us we want to be on the right side of history and all that???????


3 posted on 06/24/2011 3:34:17 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: lbryce

The compromises they’re making today are pretty much a sign that it’s a done deal unless someone backs out at the last minute. Don’t see that happening.


4 posted on 06/24/2011 3:45:27 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Any homosexual marriage bill — even with so-called religious protections — will be a disaster!

If the bill passes, the homosexual agenda will grow like cancer. Liberal bureaucrats, lawyers and judges will chip away at the faith protections. Churches will be threatened with lawsuits and cave in at the slightest opportunity.

We can only hope and pray that it fails. God willing.


5 posted on 06/24/2011 4:04:45 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: Tanniker Smith

God forbid, We The People be “allowed” to vote on this. Even so, some judge would overturn it any way.


6 posted on 06/24/2011 4:04:49 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Tanniker Smith

The fix is in. If they wanted to kill it they wouldn’t have brought it to the floor. The filthy stinking sodomites have bought off enough senators to get this to pass. Now the sodomites and their allies in the media will crow and dance with their perversion in your face and use the deviants in New Yawk to force the immorality in other states. America is dead.


7 posted on 06/24/2011 4:05:25 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: lbryce
"That's not a defeatist attitude wrapped in dogmatism, but rather the depressing voice of pragmatism."

No, basically that's the depressing voice of cowardice.

Obama is afraid to come right out for gay marriage. He is scared that black support will erode if he does.

8 posted on 06/24/2011 4:12:39 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Dilbert San Diego; NYer

Excellent post!

I just want to add that the left is USING Black people, by pulling out the race card, and comparing homosexual “marriage” with interracial marriage, but yet the majority of Black people voted AGAINST same-sex “marriage” in CA.

Also, the video that NYer posted yesterday shows so many Black folks vehemently against homosexual “marriage,” including calling it an abomination!!!!

VIDEO:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/video-some-unbelievable-support-and-some-violent-opposition-to-protecting-t


9 posted on 06/24/2011 4:15:09 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: lbryce; All

who is the weak link?

the la times is protecting someone.


10 posted on 06/24/2011 4:15:09 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Keep praying!


11 posted on 06/24/2011 4:16:22 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: lbryce

NY Dem = Marx

NY Republican = Trotsky


12 posted on 06/24/2011 4:17:47 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Tanniker Smith

EXACTLY my thinking. You don’t ask for more protection for “religion” in the bill if you are going to vote “no” and know the Bill isn’t going to pass.

Sounds to me like it’s going to pass.

Not only that, MY doesn’t require residency for marriage. If it passes they will be flooded.


13 posted on 06/24/2011 4:25:43 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

C’mon GOP, show us there’s actually a difference between the two parties in New York State!

http://images.christianpost.com/full/45843/defending-traditional-values.jpg?w=178&h=100&l=50&t=35


14 posted on 06/24/2011 4:32:20 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Amen!!!!!!


15 posted on 06/24/2011 4:59:34 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: lbryce

The question is why are there any GOP state senators
in favor of destroying society?


16 posted on 06/24/2011 5:00:19 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: freedomwarrior998

I have differences with you on some issues but not on
this one. G-d help us all.


17 posted on 06/24/2011 5:02:36 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: lbryce

Hasn’t this been the news for over a week now? I think if they had the votes, it would have passed by now.


18 posted on 06/24/2011 5:31:49 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: fwdude

It takes a while to buy off people in back room deals. If the vote is going to the floor, it is going to pass. The fix is in.


19 posted on 06/24/2011 5:33:38 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: lbryce

Has anyone read the religious “exemptions?” You apparently have to be a “religious corporation” to be exempt from recognizing this abominable construct. And the exemptions amendment is a whole, any part of it struck down by an activist judge strikes ALL of it down.


20 posted on 06/24/2011 5:43:25 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: lbryce

It just went to the floor for a vote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2739629/posts

Regards,


21 posted on 06/24/2011 5:47:01 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: freedomwarrior998
It takes a while to buy off people in back room deals. If the vote is going to the floor, it is going to pass. The fix is in.

That's a given. But you'd think that even in New York there would be some with principle. I wonder what bargaining chips are being used?

22 posted on 06/24/2011 5:48:34 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: fwdude

Principle usually goes out the window when you become a legislator. As for the bargaining chips... Money, votes on other bills, pet projects to be passed. I hear a big one is redistricting. Cuomo threatened the GOP Senate to block any redistricting that they passed and let the liberal courts draw the maps instead. This would effectively ensure Democrat control of the Senate after the elections. The GOP caved on it.


23 posted on 06/24/2011 6:00:26 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: lbryce

Well, that is just fabulous!


24 posted on 06/24/2011 7:40:23 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: lbryce

We’re told that gays are only 2 to 4 % of the population. How many of that small percentage want to get married?

I’m not in favor of the bill, but I can’t believe it will have that much of an impact on society in general.


25 posted on 06/24/2011 7:55:30 PM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/anybody (removed Cain because of Bush bashing.))
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To: altura
You ever hear that the squeaky wheel gets the grease?
In the same way that they complain that 1% of the population controls 40% of the money, 2% of the population can make 80% of the trouble.
26 posted on 06/24/2011 8:48:20 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Sun
...but yet the majority of Black people voted AGAINST same-sex “marriage” in CA.

Yeah, well these very same Black people consistently vote for politicians who let this happen. They share in the blame as far as I am concerned.

27 posted on 06/25/2011 4:02:59 AM PDT by bella1 (As it was in the days of Lot....)
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To: Tanniker Smith

That’s what I keep telling my husband about smokers. Though declining hugely, they still represent 20 plus percent of the population.

But do they agitate? Do they form protest groups? Do they fight at all?

No, they just sit around and smoke and maybe have a couple of martinis ....


28 posted on 06/25/2011 11:05:35 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/anybody (removed Cain because of Bush bashing.))
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To: bella1

...but yet the majority of Black people voted AGAINST same-sex “marriage” in CA.

“Yeah, well these very same Black people consistently vote for politicians who let this happen. They share in the blame as far as I am concerned.”

You miss the point I was trying to make which is that the left canNOT play the race card on this issue, comparing homosexual “marriage” with interracial marriage, because the majrotity of Blacks are against it, too.

The fact that the majority Blacks vote poorly is true, but that’s another thread.

It is getting to be a mantra from the gay AGENDA people that being against gay so-called marriage is a racial issue, which it is not.

I’m even seeing it after anti-gay “marriage” letters to the editor on the newspaper blogs.


29 posted on 06/25/2011 10:00:13 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Puppage

[[Even so, some judge would overturn it any way]]

Some gay judge- just likwe hwat happened in californication- who then turned aroyund and said his perverse lifestyle had nothign to do with his descision- yeah, suuuuure it didn’t


30 posted on 06/27/2011 9:05:33 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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