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Obama shifts debt-talk tactics, drops call for end to Bush tax rates
The Hill ^ | June 27, 2011 | Sam Youngman

Posted on 06/27/2011 3:21:33 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming

President Obama, seeking a Republican agreement to raise the nation's $14.3 trillion debt ceiling by Aug 2, will not insist that any deal include an end of President Bush's controversial tax rates on the wealthy.

Obama's tactics are coming into clearer focus: they involve seeking higher taxes not on a broad swath of high income earners but on a narrower band of the super rich, such as owners of private jets. This means that those who earn $250,000 have got a reprieve.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debtreduction; dncreparations; kingofthedeficit; negotiations; notaxes4dnc; obama; reparations
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For what it's worth.

If the article is correct, it may be that oil/gas will be their main target in tonight's negotiations.

1 posted on 06/27/2011 3:21:40 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

which means its still a tax on everyone, just called something else.


2 posted on 06/27/2011 3:24:54 PM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Take away normal business expenses for the Oil Companies?

I say if the green energy cannot bring their take away all subsidies

3 posted on 06/27/2011 3:25:51 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Siena Dreaming

Name names. Let Obama confiscate all assets above ten million from the following:

George Soros
Warren Buffett
Bill Gates
David Geffen
Steven Spielberg
Geoffrey Immelt

et cetera until every Marxist billionaire in America has given his all to Uncle Sam.


4 posted on 06/27/2011 3:26:32 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Siena Dreaming

“Obama’s tactics are coming into clearer focus: they involve seeking higher taxes not on a broad swath of high income earners but on a narrower band of the super rich, such as owners of private jets.” So did MaCaskill pay up the taxes owed for the jet she owns part of?


5 posted on 06/27/2011 3:27:34 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Siena Dreaming

How about a flat 99.8% tax rate on anyone who has given more than $100 to the Democrat party or any Democrat candidate.


6 posted on 06/27/2011 3:29:42 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Siena Dreaming

no end of Bush tax cuts, i think i just heard some heads explode over in DUmmieland.


7 posted on 06/27/2011 3:30:42 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: Siena Dreaming

Ah yes, get those who work for the super-rich in the unemployment lines.

That’s how to turn this economy round!


8 posted on 06/27/2011 3:31:13 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Siena Dreaming

A transparent attempt to find a way to give the GOP a fig leaf when they cave.


9 posted on 06/27/2011 3:31:49 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Siena Dreaming

I can see a token loophole closing if the cuts are real and large. But what I suspect is Obama targets oil companies because 1) they are not individuals, so easier to scapegoat, and 2) anything that tends to raise energy prices is a good thing as far as he is concerned.

Ideally, you’d have a tax structure which would have minimum loopholes. However, once you’ve put them in, investments have been made on that basis, and changing the rules screws up business calculations, and makes business wary of new investments. Also, the loopholes are often a way of selling the original raised tax rates that they avoid, so this is like pulling the football away from Charlie Brown yet another time.

The real issue is not taxes, though, but spending in the sense of how much of the economy runs through government hands. Anyone who has dealt with a city, state, or federal bureaucracy knows that they are not efficient because it isn’t their money they are handling, and there are very few employment consequences to inefficiency. Ergo, a modest government is best.

Any negotiations must be framed around the fact that Obama’s initiatives have taken the Federal government from its traditional level of 18 to 20% of GDP to 25%. At the same time, the states are spending more and more, in part due to Federal mandates. If cutting isn’t the major focus, none of the dancing around the “loophole” edges will make any difference.


10 posted on 06/27/2011 3:31:55 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Argus

my thinking as well-

call it poetic justice as i remember reading this article before the ‘08 election (my work computer does not allow me to open blogs)...

The Rich Support McCain, the Super-Rich Support Obama
Oct 13, 2008 · blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2008/10/13/the-rich-support-mccain-the-super-rich-support-obama


11 posted on 06/27/2011 3:32:04 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

based on the actions of the criminals in this WH towards car dealerships that donated to the GOP in ‘08 and their actions on the pensions of non-union auto workers my guess is they’d prefer that tax rate be assigned to anyone who donated GOP...


12 posted on 06/27/2011 3:35:01 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Siena Dreaming

I just got a Phone Bill.

FCC Reg Fee on CTV srv = $0.08.

Fed Acs Single Line = $6.50.

Internet Regulatory Fee = $1.47.

County 911 = $1.50.

Federal Tax = $0.22.

Universal Service Fund = $0.97.

State Tax = $0.78.

County Tax = $0.59.

CTV Franchise Tax = $2.60.

A hundred years ago, evil people pulled a gun on you and robbed you of what you had. Today, government takes it in a thousand little bites. F@ck you Obama.


13 posted on 06/27/2011 3:36:19 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Argus

Good plan. A billionare TaxMeMore tax on any billionaire who favors higher taxes. A 1% wealth tax would do, with an exemption form like this:

( ) I support Big Government, I will pay the tax. This will count as a charitable deduction for income tax purposes.
( ) I believe in small Government, I decline to pay the tax

Then raid the Ford Foundation and McArthur Foundation and the other liberal foundations on a likewise basis.


14 posted on 06/27/2011 3:36:41 PM PDT by WOSG (Herman Cain for President)
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To: sunmars
That was my first thought as well.

I went over there to watch some fireworks, but so far no sign that this rumor has hit them.

15 posted on 06/27/2011 3:36:55 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Gaffer

Oh sh!t, dude...you just used the real numbers and exactly like they were on your effing bill, dude!....Now, all NSA gotta do is search and match...you’re screwed - they know who you are!......


16 posted on 06/27/2011 3:37:58 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Siena Dreaming

Genius Mitch McConnel looks more like the idiot he is for making his Christmas Deal to “Take Tax Hikes off the table” for two years. RINO Morons strike again.


17 posted on 06/27/2011 3:38:19 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

the DUmmies are usually about 4 hrs behind the rest of the world, its because it takes a while for the ostrich to get its head out of the sand and unplug the fingers out of the ears.


18 posted on 06/27/2011 3:38:55 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: Siena Dreaming; All

NO MORE TAXES, DAMMIT! The federal government already takes in $2 TRILLION a year. That is MORE than enough!


19 posted on 06/27/2011 3:40:41 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Siena Dreaming

Republicans and especially The Wino RINO Weeper, DO NOT DO IT!!


20 posted on 06/27/2011 3:41:28 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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