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Tom Petty tells Michele Bachmann to stop using his music
The Guardian ^ | 06/29/11 | Sean Michaels

Posted on 06/29/2011 11:34:22 AM PDT by MissesBush

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To: Melas

I think I am confused because I don’t understand how a political campaign would be considered a commercial enterprise. Is this something that has been addressed in copyright court decisions?

I suppose if there was a cover fee for entrance to the rally, that this would be the functional equivalent of a commercial venture, but a free rally in an open venue would not seem to be a venture where the artist would have any control over whether their song could be played versus another artist’s song.

After reading the article it appears that the Bachmann campaign used it in a political ad. That would clearly be a no no, but I don’t see how they can control the use at an open rally.


121 posted on 06/29/2011 5:55:40 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Yeah, but you don’t know he licensed it to BMI. And you don’t know they paid the license fee. People using music and not paying the license fee is a problem that is endemic. If she did, then all she’s gotta do is say, “Hey, I paid the license fee. If he won’t let me use it, then he’s in breach of contract.”

Most likely, the truth is somewhere between what you say and I say. In any event, it’s a tiny matter. Not a big issue.


122 posted on 06/29/2011 7:06:04 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I have several Petty albums in my Rhapsody download que that have their license renewed every month. I suspect he gets a proportional fee based on the fee I paid to Rhapsody and the songs that need to be licensed to my MP3 player. I suspect it would amount to no more than a nickle a month, but I think I will delete them all because I really don’t want him to have a nickle of my money after this.


123 posted on 06/29/2011 7:31:42 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: MissesBush

Wow! Petty drives in NASCAR AND does music??


124 posted on 06/29/2011 7:39:38 PM PDT by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)
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To: Melas

No, I believe at a rally a public performance license is adequate. An ad, however, requires a synchronization license and a master license, which are pretty much under direct control of the artist.


125 posted on 06/29/2011 7:41:38 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: MissesBush

A very dark song for a political campaign theme song.


126 posted on 06/29/2011 7:42:25 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Debbie whatzer name from The Pretenders tried to force Rush to stop using “Back to Ohio” as his opening theme. He is still playing the song.


127 posted on 06/29/2011 7:52:56 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I agree. If he’s going to be an a$$hole, then treat him like one.


128 posted on 06/29/2011 7:54:23 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MissesBush

Screw this tinny-voiced punk.


129 posted on 06/29/2011 8:02:57 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: magritte
"An ad, however, requires a synchronization license and a master license, which are pretty much under direct control of the artist."

Well as always in matters legal, "it depends"... For instance Paul McCartney has no control over much of the early Beatles Catalog (as well as the other remaining Beatles/Beatles Estates.)

It all boils down to what sort of deal was signed. Much of the very popular music from the 60's 70's and 80's and even 90's is controlled by Big Music not the Artists who wrote and recorded the music.

An example of "Big Music" is Sony/ATV publishing which owns the rights to over a quarter of a million recorded works from Recording artist such as The Beatles, Eminem, Bob Dylan, Elvis Presley etc. (If memory serves) Also I believe Michael Jackson used to own much of rights to those published works but put them up for collateral for some business deal and now 50% or so is owned By SONY/ATV and the rest owned by the Jackson Family. Also estimates put the SONY/ATV catalog value at between 1.5 to 4 Billion Dollars.

Many of those published works in the SONY/ATV catalog are owned outright as far as Master License rights are concerned. (Though the Music and Lyrics rights are mostly still controlled by the Artists or their heirs.)

130 posted on 06/30/2011 5:31:55 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Then again, she launched her campain in the spirit of John Wayne Gacy so maybe it is an appropriate theme . . . . .

Repeating a discredited liberal meme as if it were factual does wonders for your credibility.

131 posted on 06/30/2011 6:48:46 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: MissesBush

I’ve always found Petty’s music to be hack, anyway.


132 posted on 06/30/2011 6:50:31 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: MissesBush
To hell with Tom Petty's songs! She should use as her theme song Up and At 'Em by Ben Bernie or Somebody Like You by Jane Green.
133 posted on 06/30/2011 7:19:36 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Sorry, too much coffee.

No problem, I ask questions sometimes just trying to understand something. I meant no offense by it.

134 posted on 06/30/2011 1:31:52 PM PDT by Bronzewound (When radicals begin to follow rules, are they still radicals?)
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To: Fiji Hill

Come on Fiji. I think she wants to be elected. Playing those songs would make her a laughing stock.


135 posted on 07/02/2011 2:47:45 PM PDT by Melas (Sent via Galaxy Tab)
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To: Melas
Come on Fiji. I think she wants to be elected. Playing those songs would make her a laughing stock.

Perhaps hip-hoppers and other musical Philistines will laugh, but few of them will be voting for her.

Since her objective is the White House, maybe she could use The Little White House from the 1926 Broadway show "Honeymoon Lane." Waring's Pennsylvanians did the best version of this tune, but it's not available on Youtube.

136 posted on 07/02/2011 5:15:47 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Melas
Here are a few more suggestions:
137 posted on 07/02/2011 10:42:32 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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