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Ignoring liberal Dems, Obama endorses longer payroll tax holiday through 2012
The Hill ^ | 6/29/11 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 06/30/2011 1:43:08 AM PDT by Libloather

Ignoring liberal Dems, Obama endorses longer payroll tax holiday through 2012
By Mike Lillis - 06/29/11 03:56 PM ET

President Obama on Wednesday reiterated his push to extend an existing payroll tax holiday through 2012 – a move denounced by liberal Democrats who fear the reduction in revenues will undermine Social Security.

“I think that it makes perfect sense for us to take a look at, can we extend the payroll tax, for example, an additional year,” Obama said during a lengthy press conference at the White House.

The president said that strategy “puts money in people’s pockets at a time when they’re still struggling to dig themselves out of this recession.”

The remarks ignore the warnings from many liberal Democrats, who have argued for months that cutting the payroll tax will drain Social Security coffers and threaten seniors' benefits.

Republicans backed the tax break when it was included in a December deal, but House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) more recently has criticized it as a “sugar high” for the economy.

On Friday, Democratic Reps. Lloyd Doggett (Texas), Ted Deutch (Fla.) and Mark Critz (Pa.) sent a letter to all House Democrats saying the proposed extension “should trouble all who care about preserving” the funding stream for Social Security.

“Social Security’s popularity comes from the direct contributions of American workers, who pay into the system now and benefit when they retire or become disabled,” the lawmakers wrote. “Unless and until faith in Social Security has been restored to the American people through long-range solvency, short-sighted cuts to the program’s revenue stream must not be part of any debt ceiling or budget deal.”

The letter is also being distributed to select House Republicans, Deutch spokeswoman Ashley Mushnick said Wednesday. The Democrats are also readying a similar letter to send to Obama.

In December, the White House and Senate Republicans carved out a deal to cut workers' payroll taxes from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent through 2011 – part of a larger package to extend the George W. Bush-era tax rates for all taxpayers.

But the provision angered many liberal Democrats, who warned it set a dangerous precedent because taxes are easier to cut than they are to restore. The concern at the time was that anti-tax conservatives would lead the charge to extend the tax break beyond this year. Instead, Obama has adopted that position.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) is also urging a one-year extension to the payroll tax holiday.

While the cut is just 2 percentage points – from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent – it represents a real payroll tax reduction of 32 percent. For instance, a worker currently earning $100,000 should have paid $6,200 in payroll taxes for 2010 wages, but will pay only $4,200 for earnings this year.

The current tax holiday does not apply to employers, who continue to pay the 6.2 percent rate.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates the cut will reduce federal revenues by $112 billion over the next two years. Because the tax package is not offset by changes elsewhere in the budget, the government will have to borrow to fill that hole in the Social Security trust fund.

The president on Wednesday also endorsed “other tax breaks for business investment” he said would stimulate the economy and create “more jobs right now.” The White House has already floated the idea of extending the payroll tax holiday to employers, though it’s unclear whether Obama was referring to that strategy Wednesday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; payroll; socialsecurity; taxes
Ignoring liberal Dems

That's kept me healthy, wealthy and wise.

1 posted on 06/30/2011 1:43:15 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
I love the one comment: "This is going to tick the liberals off SOOO bad, that this time they are only going to vote for Obama once in 2012…"
2 posted on 06/30/2011 1:57:02 AM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: Libloather

Businesses and consumers are in the driver’s seat for the 2012 election. If businesses don’t hire and consumers keep their wallets closed, there is no way BO gets re-elected. Leftist states don’t have money to buy votes with give-away programs if the economy is still tanking and the federal government is broke.


3 posted on 06/30/2011 2:04:06 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Libloather
"But the provision angered many liberal Democrats, who warned it set a dangerous precedent because taxes are easier to cut than they are to restore

Yeah...bring it on baby......cut and cut again....followed by more cuts.

4 posted on 06/30/2011 2:58:21 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Libloather.
reiterated his push to extend an existing payroll tax holiday through 2012
"I have to win reelection -- after that comes 2013!" [crowd: Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!]


5 posted on 06/30/2011 3:03:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's the Obamacare, stupid! -- Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Libloather

Obama and all his socialist cheerleaders in the main stream media (NBC, CMS, ABC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, etc) begin all discussions about the economy with one premise in mind:

THAT THE MONEY YOU EARN FROM YOUR HARD WORK BELONGS, NOT TO YOU, BUT TO THE GOVERNMENT!

They believe that the government is being very generous in allowing you to keep some of your hard earn money.

IS THIS WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT HOW THE FREE MARKET SYSTEM IS SUPPOSED TO WORK?

No more taxes…Not one single penny more to the government which is sucking money that you earn out of the economy where it could be used to create jobs.

Let’s add one more name to the unemployment rolls – OBAMA’s


6 posted on 06/30/2011 3:06:35 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: Libloather
...a move denounced by liberal Democrats who fear the reduction in revenues will undermine Social Security.

14 million Americans are out of work and the country is drowning in debt; everything the dems do undermines SS.

7 posted on 06/30/2011 3:14:18 AM PDT by South40 (Palin/Thompson 2012!)
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To: Libloather
Of cause Obama would be (again)for reducing SS “tax” withholding. All the better to bankrupt SS - as he is trying to do with Medicare.

After all SS is a program that (like Medicare) has working people pay in advance for benefits in the future. And while the formula has fell out of balance (with people collecting more than their payments could ever cover) it is still not a something-for-nothing welfare benifit program that Marxists favor. Those are the programs like Medicaid, ADC, SSI, welfare assistance, etc were recepients have contributed nothing and are wholly dependent on government largess and leftist politicians like Obama and his Democrats.

8 posted on 06/30/2011 4:00:26 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Libloather

Is he talking about the lousy 2% social security tax that they give employees a break on? It certainly isn’t helping “small” business as we still have to “match” that at the 6.2%!! If they wanted to help small business, they would have lowered the employers’ match too! I’ve never heard anyone talk about this!


9 posted on 06/30/2011 4:09:13 AM PDT by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: Libloather

THIS IS HORSE$HIT

There is no tax ‘holiday’

They only REDUCED THE RATE OF WITHOLDING

You still owe the same amount of tax, they just take less out of your paycheck each week to apply towards it.

Big funny when income tax time comes around and you OWE instead of your usual refund

I have a dumba$$ brother who actually said to me “I don’t pay taxes- I get a REFUND every year” - he is actually too stupid to know he pays a lot, and gets only a portion of it back.


10 posted on 06/30/2011 4:43:54 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Mr. K

Some real screaming is not that far down the road, When the 10- 12 yr olds find out that they are working to fund SS and maybe free health care for burned out liberals untill they die.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 5:03:53 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Mr. K
This is the Social Security Payroll tax, that was reduced from 6.2% to 4.2% - you don't have to make up the difference.

However, Social Security will go bust that much faster. Prompting me to remember "Never let a good Crisis go to Waste" - The Emanuel Doctrine.

Obama is creating a Social Security crisis that he intends to blame on the Republicans.

Beware!

12 posted on 06/30/2011 5:04:54 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Mr. K

This reduces the FICA (Social Security) tax that workers pay.

It does not affect the income tax workers pay through withholding or any refund they would get.


13 posted on 06/30/2011 5:07:31 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik ("The trouble with internet quotations is you don't know if they are true"-Abraham Lincoln.)
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To: Libloather

Rather than maintain the deduction, the 2% should be collected but invested in one of many index funds selected by the worker.

The injection of real capital into America would provide a real economic stimulus. An investment of 2% compounded could very well save Social security all by its self.


14 posted on 06/30/2011 5:10:43 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Mr. K
he is actually too stupid to know he pays a lot, and gets only a portion of it back.

You just gotta love public education! /sarc

15 posted on 06/30/2011 5:33:41 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: SunkenCiv

You nailed it.


16 posted on 06/30/2011 7:18:40 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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