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1 posted on 06/30/2011 2:39:02 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Married couples with children account for only 20 percent of all households – down from 43 percent in 1950. With so many children witnessing divorce and growing up in broken homes, marriage has become just a trinket, not a jewel to be prized.

Still not convinced?

The Pill Kills Marriage

2 posted on 06/30/2011 2:41:07 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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Unfortunately, the liberals in the MSM, Hollywood idiots, etc. are cheerleaders for this issue.

And the liberals have framed the debate as one of discrimination against homosexuals.

Of all the debates and discussions I have heard about same-sex marriage, very few have talked about why same-sex marriage is good for society. Mostly we hear that it’s discriminatory not to allow same-sex marriage, rather than why it would be good for society.

The framing of the debate is important, because if people are persuaded that it’s discriminatory not to allow same-sex marriage,then they won’t listen to reasoned discussion about why marriage and family are important, and why it should not be re-defined. And in today’s politically correct world, charges of discrimination unfortunately carry weight in the court of public opinion, and the New York legislature.


3 posted on 06/30/2011 2:44:23 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Whatever they have it isn’t marriage equality until they can create life.


4 posted on 06/30/2011 2:47:04 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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Soon every state will fly the same flag and when that happens, why bother having states?

The agenda is the same however taken on from several different directions, but it is always the same agenda...Photobucket

Welcome to the Godless society.

8 posted on 06/30/2011 2:57:43 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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There’s not even a discussion about the benefit of marriage anymore, so why should anyone be surprised that the argument for “benign gayness” is taking hold now.

If you are held in bondage, and you know your child will be ripped from you and sold for chattel, it’s likely that you’ll be reticent to consent to enter that whole dilemma and remain childless.

If men see no-fault divorces all around them, or marriages ended in “the golden years” after children are gone and one in the marriage decides to run off and find the “right person...” leaving the other in the lurch during the closing years when you need the other....of course the men have probably contributed the majority share of the conservative side. But with gays, liberals, the “weak at the knees” otherwise conservative men, and the tacit cooperation of otherwise conservative women, where else could we find ourselves but here?

We know the liberal feminazis have been at their trade, but where have the conservative women been, supporting the men accused of workplace harassment, child protective service violations, etc??? Where have the men been, defending the boy scouts and football, and just being men.

There’s little respect left in society for a man’s man-of-the-house...and I’m not just talking about TV sitcoms where we know we’re pilloried. Listen to some of the women around you at church or at the coffee house at the other table. It’s NOT just the feminazis and gays diluting marriage, it’s a majority of society diminishing the family.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 3:09:52 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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there is no argument. You just say No,no,no repeatedly.

Gay marraige means gay adoption and the empowerment of the big rich and powerful gay organizations to begin bullying and suing. They have extensive legal departments.

It means ‘gay sensitivity training’ in all corporations and workplaces and all state and federeal government offices.

It means churchs being sued and taken over by these big gay organizations and Christians driven away and property and assets going to the gays. Look at the Episcopal church.

Gay marriage means sex education on homosexuality in grade school and high school and sensitivity classes in college.

There is no end to it.

That’s whsy I am against gay marriage.

It burns me that the gay organizations are so rich; the big corporations of America have nothing but contempt for the little people.

Go to the gay websites; they are working day and night. there are hundreds of gay organizations and they put endless pressure on legislators and churchmen, endless. they always request a meeting and a ‘conversation’ where they tell heartrending stories of mistreatment of gays.

They are so agressive and so hostile.


18 posted on 06/30/2011 3:46:55 PM PDT by squarebarb
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since queers can't reproduce, can incestuous homosexual BROTHERS get married??? fair is fair right?
19 posted on 06/30/2011 3:53:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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