do I really have to say it???
Posted on 07/02/2011 8:08:27 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
In a response filed yesterday to a federal judge’s order May 11, an FBI official offered no denials about the existence of video images captured by more than 20 surveillance cameras operating prior to 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, in the vicinity of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City. Instead, he explained that officials at the bureau merely cannot find the tapes and raised the possibility that they “might have been misfiled and thus could be located somewhere other than in the OKBOMB file (though it would be impossible to know where).”
The order, issued by Judge Clark Waddoup in the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah, Central Division, stemmed from the bureau’s failure to comply with a three-year-old Freedom of Information Act request submitted by Salt Lake City lawyer Jesse Trentadue, a man on a quest for answers related to the Oklahoma City Bombing and the death of his brother, Kenneth Trentadue, who died under suspicious circumstances several months later while in custody at the U.S. Bureau of Prisons Federal Transfer Center in Oklahoma City.
“There is no affidavit from someone within the FBI stating that the tapes do not exist,” he wrote, adding that FBI officials couldn’t make such a claim, because it would conflict with three sworn affidavits, the contents of which had already been made public in a post published April 7. In that post, I shared documents Trentadue had shared with me that contain fodder provided by three people — OKC police officer Don Browning, private security specialist Bradford Cooley and FBI Agent Ricardo Ojeda — that sheds light on the FBI’s response to the FOIA request.
Browning noted in a declaration to the court that he and other non-federal rescuers were ordered to leave the Murrah Building soon after the bomb exploded despite the need to move quickly in hopes of locating and, hopefully, saving victims trapped by the blast. In addition, he wrote the following:
That same morning, I observed men wearing jackets with “FBI” printed on the back removing the surveillance video cameras from the exterior of the Murrah Federal Building. I thought this was part of the FBI’s evidence gathering or “chain of custody” procedures since those exterior cameras would have shown and recorded delivery of the bomb in a Ryder truck that morning as well as the person or persons who exited that truck. I knew from my training and experience as a police officer that an investigation of the bombing and prosecution of those involved would require not only preserving the videotapes of the event but also require preserving the cameras and tape decks by which those videotapes were made. Nevertheless, I did think it odd that the FBI’s removal of those cameras was taking place while many people were still trapped alive in the rubble of the Murrah Federal Building and so many of us were working desperately to find them.
Cooley’s declaration, in which he outlined his knowledge of the surveillance systems at the Murrah Building, included the following hard-to-ignore observations:
From my knowledge of the video surveillance system in place at the Murrah Federal Building, an my presence on scene just after the bomb exploded, I have no doubt that the two external cameras on the Northwest and Northeast corners of the Building would certainly have recorded the entire event. Those cameras would even have recorded the delivery of the bomb to the Murrah Federal Building in a Ryder truck and, most importantly, those cameras would also have recorded everyone who exited that truck prior to the explosion. Because of their distance from the Murrah Federal Building, ADT’s offices were not destroyed or otherwise damaged in the bombing, which means that the videotapes should still exist.
In a sworn affidavit dated May 21, 2001, Ojeda outlined how the FBI handled information they did not want to see brought up in court:
The FBI also kept “zero files,” which were reports containing information that the FBI would not generally want disclosed to the defense and which were kept separate from a specific case file. These files were kept internally within the Bureau and typically were not turned over to the prosecution or the defense. Files would be assigned numbers bases on the type of offense or investigation involved, for example, a bank robbery would be assigned a particular number. A letter A after that number would mean highest importance. A zero after that number would mean that the report should go into the “zero” file.
On the last page of his affidavit, Ojeda added the statement below: Although there are many very good FBI agents, there are also FBI agents, including some who worked on the Oklahoma City bombing case, who are willing to subvert the truth in order to protect fellow agents.
In addition to the conflicts surfacing between the FBI’s stance and statements made in the affidavits above, it appears FBI officials are playing a shell game with Jesse Trentadue and the judge.
Jesse Trentadue pointed out that, for the first time in three years, the FBI said that all Oklahoma City Bombing-related evidence and documents are in a warehouse somewhere in Oklahoma City. In addition, he noted that bureau officials misrepresented the purpose of the S-Drive before the court.
“This was the time and the place for FBI officials to come forward with evidence of no tapes, but they did not,” said Jesse Trentadue during an interview Friday about the matter. “They are, in plain English, in contempt of the court’s order.”
After the explosion (implosion?) the FBI show up and remove the exterior security cameras, the video machine and all tapes while people are still injured and trapped in the building.
Now the video evidence is ALL MISSING !? Apparently NOT given to the defense at trial !?
How is this done,Not like a memo for the coffee vendor ,this is of importance,Historical importance.
Well, Hillary does have a habit of leaving files on coffee tables and such.
Whoa, this is more than disturbing.
Can’t have a video of a devout member of the ROP from Iraq shown now could we.
OKC Bombing coverup conspiracy? Hell yes.
do I really have to say it???
in a world so bizarre, that the Onion is obsolete,
you have found something even more shocking that usual.
one would assume that video evidence, of the actual terrorists, would have been presented at the trial.
yet apparently it wasn’t ?
(adding to many other bizarre things about this...)
“From my knowledge of the video surveillance system in place at the Murrah Federal Building, an my presence on scene just after the bomb exploded, I have no doubt that the two external cameras on the Northwest and Northeast corners of the Building would certainly have recorded the entire event. Those cameras would even have recorded the delivery of the bomb to the Murrah Federal Building in a Ryder truck and, most importantly, those cameras would also have recorded everyone who exited that truck prior to the explosion. Because of their distance from the Murrah Federal Building, ADT’s offices were not destroyed or otherwise damaged in the bombing, which means that the videotapes should still exist. “
Insane isn`t it ?
No one has seen the video evidence that exists(ed) of the truck driving up, occupants getting out and the explosion(implosion?) itself !?
WTF!?
Misfiled.
How convenient! [/s]
clinton’s “fast and furious”? except he got away with it.
If the judge had any real cajones, he would impose a $100,000 per day fine on the FBI until the material was "found".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBQd9tDzHAc
Paul Schiffer interviews Jayna Davis - hour one
I LOST Doug from Upland’s interview!
I heard they had enough evidence to arrest Mcvey before hand,I have long felt the Oklahoma bombing might be a case of grandstanding gone horribly wrong, did he change targets at the last minute ? only the government knows
I heard and felt the Murrah building explosion that killed 2 of my friends. On my police scanner I heard the APB for 3 middle eastern looking men driving north at a high rate of speed on highway 35 in a beige/brown late model chevy pickup. The FBI later pretended that such an APB never existed.
Why they didn't release the videos immediately (at least to help the public identify John doe #2, who DID exist) always troubled me.
I am not kidding, I am nauseous reading this article.
That seems more plausible as no terrorist group that I know of has taken credit for the bombing.
What I find very disturbing is the change in attitude. During McVeigh’s trial, they were insistent that no such video existed. Now, McVeigh is dead and the attitude is “Yeah, we have it but don’t know where it is.”
Now I wonder what really happened at OKC. Our Government has lost any and all credibility.
The FBI has been a hack organization of the Democratic party for a long time. I never beleived in the conspiracy theory of the Kennedy assination but now I ‘m no longer sure that is correct. The clincher for me was the Vince Foster suicide and the absolute BS investigation. There was very little pretense that it was no a cover up.
We are loosing our country very fast and we have some very powerfull enemies.
And they executed mcvey without the video evidence of him getting out of the truck?
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