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Perry, Palin aren't running, just enjoying the ride
Beaumont Enterprise ^ | July 3, 2011 | Thomas Taschinger (I bet is a democrat)

Posted on 07/03/2011 7:57:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Rick Perry and Sarah Palin aren't stupid, no matter what you might think of them. They are riding a comet, and they are in no hurry to get off.

I'm talking about the possibility of running for president.

Neither one will probably take the plunge. Given the realities of modern campaigning and fund-raising, they'd already be in this thing if they were serious about it. Both are content in their real jobs - Perry as governor of a huge state, Palin as a money-making-machine and voice of the hard Right.

But why stop the fun?

As long as they are referred to as "possible" candidates, they have an influence that just can't be beat.

Every speech and political move they make is followed with enthusiasm by the 24-hour news cycle. Witness Palin's earlier bus tour of the East Coast. If she were officially a non-candidate, she'd attract little or no coverage for a stunt like that. But her bus was eagerly followed by packs of reporters who hung around her just in case something happened, like an announcement that she was running.

Turns out nothing happened, except she muffed the reason for Paul Revere's ride. ("Hey, you British! The British are coming!")

It's possible that a wavering candidate can attempt a what-the-heck late fling that defies all the conventional wisdom about how to run for president, but that's risky. It probably won't succeed, and you will probably look like an idiot when your candidacy inevitably craters.

That undoes everything that the earlier tease built up - that you are a serious person who deserves to be considered for the most important job on earth. In the case of Palin, who is wavering on the edge of respectability, that's a mistake you don't want to make.

No, this is something you want to stretch out as long as possible. You give major speeches on important issues. You go to meetings and conventions you'd otherwise blow off. If national interest is waning, you hint that you might be jumping in after all.

And it's always possible, of course, that lightning will strike and party elders will beg you to ride to the rescue if no strong contender emerges. In Perry's case, this raises his stock for a VP selection, though he probably doesn't want that either.

Eventually, the game will end. A front-runner will emerge, or the primary season will be so close that the Hamlet act runs out of steam.

But for a few weeks, or a few months, you are one of only a handful of people who might someday be ... the president of the United States. That's a heady feeling, and in fact you'd almost be a fool not to flirt with the idea.

Besides, if nothing else, you can always tell the grandkids about it some day.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; gopprimary; guesswork; hitpiece; junk; palin; pdsattack; perry; rickperry; sarahpalin; speculation
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To: RINOs suck
Wouldn't it be fair to say Bachmann was as right about John Wayne as Palin was about Paul Revere? Wayne's parents lived in Waterloo shortly before he was born. Revere warned the British but not with bells.

It's fair to say that there is no evidence to suggest that Bachmann was confusing the mass murderer with the actor.

About Bachmann's comment, ” I want them to know just like John Wayne is from Waterloo Iowa, that's the spirit I have too," it looks to me that she came up several months short.

Not that big of a deal.

121 posted on 07/03/2011 12:24:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Turns out nothing happened, except she muffed the reason for Paul Revere’s ride. (”Hey, you British! The British are coming!”)
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Stopped reading after that idiotic line. Even some Democrats and at least three history professors have said Palin had it right.


122 posted on 07/03/2011 12:24:59 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: dragnet2

You’re dodging my answer to you in Post #74.


123 posted on 07/03/2011 12:25:34 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: org.whodat

Nice straw man but he has already been composted.


124 posted on 07/03/2011 12:28:06 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
...that all she needs to do is declare to claim it?

As far as I´m concerned, yes. My primary vote is hers whether she´s on the ballot or not. Y´ betcha!

125 posted on 07/03/2011 12:30:26 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: FreeReign

>>So then Palin was asked what she takes away from her visit and she responds appropriately with new information supplied to her by her host.<<

I’m with you on the new information part, but to say that she responded “appropriately” is a stretch. She really did ramble on in a disconnected, scrambled up manner and did sound pretty ditzy by the time she’d finished.

In other words, I’d excuse her for the content, but if she’s going to respond to something publicly, she should be aware of whether she’s offering something close to grammatical, sensible, sentences. Throw a few “likes” and “you knows” in her answer and she’d have sounded like a 5th grader.

But I suspect she’s learned that lesson now too. (So there’s no mistaking my position, I like her positions, think she’ll run, think she’ll get the nomination and think that Palin/Cain will win easily, but that doesn’t mean she’s done everything perfectly and always will.)


126 posted on 07/03/2011 12:33:13 PM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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To: Norseman
I’m with you on the new information part, but to say that she responded “appropriately” is a stretch. She really did ramble on in a disconnected, scrambled up manner and did sound pretty ditzy by the time she’d finished.

I described her response as being appropriate in direction and factual content. I also described her response in several posts on this thread as being "slightly disjointed".

127 posted on 07/03/2011 12:38:09 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I will vote for Sarah Palin OR Michelle Bachman gladly over any DimRat but I still say that the women of America don’t want a woman in the white house. It is they, the majority of registered voters, who will decide and they didn’t put Hillary in office when they had the chance. Since women are far more likely to vote for the left than men are I find it very difficult to believe they will put a Republican woman in the office when they refused to put a Democrat woman in. Don’t bother telling me why Hillary lost, the fact remains that women are the majority, they can control any primary process and any general election, given the chance to put a Democrat woman in the white house, women said no. I realize things can change but that would be a major change indeed for the one voting group that is in the majority and accustomed to voting left to put a Republican woman where they refused to put a Democrat woman.


128 posted on 07/03/2011 12:43:16 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

>>The palin or nothing crowd need to check themselves and look in the damn mirror and decide what they want to do if she does not run for potus.<<

Please show us where we’ve gone “Palin or nothing”? Like we’re going to encourage a third party run? or stay home? Any evidence at all? Didn’t think so.

(Granted, there are those who have claimed they’ll never vote for Romney, but they haven’t said it has to be Palin, and only Palin....big difference.)


129 posted on 07/03/2011 12:51:22 PM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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To: Norseman; org.whodat

No, but if you had just finished going through a historical presentation on his ride, for example, and you were asked what you learned, you’d sound pretty damned stupid saying “I learned that he rode out to warn that the British are coming.”
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Yes and had that happened org., along with others, would be telling us that Sarah Palin is so stupid that she just now learned that Paul Revere warned people that the British were coming. If you start with the proposition that someone is stupid you can come up with a reason to say that, either real or false, even if you are talking about Albert Einstein. If, on the other hand, you examine all the information you must conclude that whatever Palin is and whether or not she would make a good president, she is anything but stupid. The stupid people are those who actually believe Palin is stupid.


130 posted on 07/03/2011 12:56:16 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: FreeReign

Fair enough...it’s a long thread and easy to overlook what one says in one comment and then in later ones. I agree with your assessment.

She does need to learn to avoid those “slightly disjointed” answers, though, as I suspect she will because I’m convinced she’s serious about running, and winning.


131 posted on 07/03/2011 1:00:00 PM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; jennychase

We’ll see who needs therapy in the days ahead, I expect.


132 posted on 07/03/2011 1:04:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: Starstruck

“Speaking of gibberish which country are you from?”
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LMAO Who dat just got slam dunked?


133 posted on 07/03/2011 1:11:48 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry doubled the size of state government in 9 years.

What do jobs have to do with *doubling* the size of state government?

Did the Texas government need double the size of their government to hire more government workers simply to collect the tax money? Why does private business need more government?

134 posted on 07/03/2011 1:16:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

How old are you? Eleven? Twelve?


135 posted on 07/03/2011 1:48:16 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Don’t answer the questions....Divert, evade and attack the messenger.

Come on...


136 posted on 07/03/2011 2:30:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
When Perry took over for GWB the budget for the state was 46 billion this year it had a 20% CUT to get it down to 90 billlion. He doubled the state government in 9 years.

Unlike your state of California, Texas passed a balanced budget, did not raise taxes and has a $3Billion rainy day fund.

Business are flocking to Texas, as are people to work for them (quite a few from California, I would guess).

Texas does not have state income tax like your state of California (which is broke, raised taxes and passed a budget, where if those phantom new revenues ($$$$$ Gov Brown dreams will be squeezed from a bloodless turnip) don't magically appear is going deeper into the dumper.

Even though Texas relies on property taxes (took a huge hit due to Democrat schemes in the mortgage industry, Fannie Mae, etc) we still have a healthy, growing economy and can pay our bills.

137 posted on 07/03/2011 2:38:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Can you take these 3 simple questions one at a time.

Thanks!

Perry doubled the size of state government in 9 years.

1. What do jobs have to do with *doubling* the size of state government?

2. Did the Texas government need double the size of their government to hire more government workers simply to collect the tax money?

3. Why does private business need more government?

138 posted on 07/03/2011 2:42:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Give me links to your information that are the basis for your questions.

Thanks!


139 posted on 07/03/2011 2:47:24 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: org.whodat

You are mistaken. Give it up. You are making a fool of yourself.


140 posted on 07/03/2011 2:58:34 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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