Posted on 07/03/2011 4:04:58 PM PDT by chessplayer
ABC's "This Week" began its Independence Day weekend program with a segment that echoed Time magazine's cover story questioning whether the Constitution matters anymore.
After historian Douglas Brinkley said, "We shouldn't act like [the Founding Fathers] were somehow omnipotent," ABC's John Donvan responded, "They were not gods, they were guys - guys who didn't give women the vote and let slavery stand"
And it was “white guys” who abolished slavery. And “white guys” who gave American women the vote. In 1787 slavery was still legal everywhere on earth IIRC. Had they not had the “horrible” 3/5ths compromise, the South would have had legal slavery continue way past 1863. And as the poster above pointed out, no more importation of slaves as of 1808. Pretty progressive for its time IMHO.
The Royal Navy conducted anti-slavery patrols because the UK already had an incredibly valuable slave empire in India, and any other slavery in the world was competition.
Non-U.S. slave ships flew the American Flag because after the war of 1812 the U.S was the one nation whose ships the British dared not stop and search.
Washington was indeed a slaveowner, and an unusually cruel one - until the revolution brought him into contact with free blacks. After that, his opinions radically changed and he arranged his will to free all of his commercial business slaves, and all of Martha's personnel servants upon her death.
Washington was not perfect by 2011 standards. By the standards of the eighteenth century he was a giant among giants.
It amuses me that the left will call the FF sexists racists unless they think they can cherrypick a FF quote to suggest statism or healthcare.
And you make me so mad i can’t believe it. Another thing for you here. Before you think England was on some holy crusade to end slavery,,,, tell us why they supported the south all they could during the civil war?
They tried as hard as they could for the slave holding south to win.
They arent the heroes you pretend they are. But we were,,,
Dunmore’s Proclamation of 1775 declared martial law and freedom for slaves.
The Brits needed a larger army so they suddenly changed course on slavery.
The writings of the Founding Fathers laid open the intellectual basis of individual freedoms...a completely NEW concept to the world trapped within monarchy and whom individuals were “subjects”..NOT Free Citizens.. Within their expositions the seeds of freedom they sowed birthed a world free from slavery within a hundred years.....
Sorry it wasn’t as fast as you’dve liked.
Don’t patronize America and Americans.
You’re on the wrong forum if you think that unintellectual nonsense is going to fly.
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For bonus points answer this;
Somalia was a soviet client state in the cold war. When that ended, what nation which had NO national interest there, and didn’t cause the suffering there, sent there sons to die there just to feed a bunch of ingrates?
A) England
B) Russia
C) Saudi Arabia
D) The good old USA
AFTER the US abolished slavery.....
1869 Portugal abolishes slavery in the African colonies
1870 U.S. abolishes slavery in the Department of Alaska after purchasing it from Russia in 1867
1871 Brazil declares free the sons and daughters born to slave mothers after 28 September 1871.
1873 Slavery abolished in Puerto Rico
1873 Treaty between Britain and Zanzibar and Madagascar to suppress slave trade [31]
1874 Britain abolishes slavery in the Gold Coast (now Ghana) following its annexation in 1874 (after Third Anglo-Asante War).
1879 Bulgaria abolishes slavery (note: the slavery was abolished with the first constitution of the renewed Bulgarian state)
1882 Ottoman firman abolishes all forms of slavery, white or black.[42]
1885 Brazil passes Sexagenarian Law freeing all slaves over the age of 60.
1886 Slavery abolished in Cuba[18]
1888 Brazil passes Golden Law, abolishing slavery without indemnities to slaveowners or aid to newly freed slaves.[43]
1890 Brussels Act – Treaty granting anti-slavery powers the right to stop and search ships for slaves
1894 Korea abolishes slavery[44]
1896 France abolishes slavery in Madagascar
1897 Zanzibar abolishes slavery[45] following its becoming a British protectorate.
John Adams did not own and never had any slave. Neither did his wife. Samuel Adams did receive a slave as a gift but immediately freed her and she worked for him for years as a free person. Slavery was outlawed in Massachusetts because of Samuel Adams' legislation.
Get your facts strait.
1906 China formally abolishes slavery and the law became effective on 31 January 1910, when all adult slaves were converted into hired labourers and the young were freed upon reaching age 25.[15]
1912 Siam (Thailand), formally abolishes all slavery. The act of selling a person into slavery was abolished in 1897 but slavery itself was not outlawed at that time.[46]
1921 Nepal abolishes slavery[47][48]
1923 Afghanistan abolishes slavery[49]
1922 Morocco abolishes slavery [50]
1924 Iraq abolishes slavery
1924 League of Nations Temporary Slavery Commission
1926 Slavery Convention. Bound all signatories to end slavery Convention to Suppress the Slave Trade and Slavery (25 September 1926)
1928 Iran abolishes slavery[51]
1928 Domestic slavery practised by local African elites abolished in Sierra Leone[52] (ironically established as a place for freed slaves). A study found practices of domestic slavery still widespread in rural areas in the 1970s.
1935 Italian General Emilio De Bono proclaims slavery to be abolished in the Ethiopian Empire[53]
1936 Britain abolishes slavery in Northern Nigeria[54]
1942 Ethiopian Empire abolishes slavery
1945 In the subsequent defeat of Nazi Germany and Japan, workcamps for slave labor (primarily Jewish encampments in Nazi Germany and colonists in Japanese-dominated lands) were gradually closed by the liberators.
1946 Fritz Sauckel, procurer of slave labor for Nazi Germany, convicted at the Nuremberg trials and executed as war criminal.
1948 UN Article 4 of the Declaration of Human Rights bans slavery globally[55]
1952 Qatar abolishes slavery
1959 Slavery in Tibet is abolished by China after the Dalai Lama flees.
1960 Niger abolishes slavery[56]
1962 Saudi Arabia abolishes slavery
1962 Yemen abolishes slavery
1963 United Arab Emirates abolishes slavery
1970 Oman abolishes slavery
1981 Mauritania abolishes slavery[57][58][59]
As you can see from the list I posted in 2 posts, slavery continued to exist in much of the world after the US abolished it.
Leftists always seem to act like it was only the US
Exactly! Weaken the competition,,, it’s silly to act like England treated them like equals,,, all God’s children.
It was a cold business and national power calculation for them, nothing more.
Exactly! Weaken the competition,,, it’s silly to act like England treated them like equals,,, all God’s children.
It was a cold business and national power calculation for them, nothing more.
Holland was also a republic.
Any leader, anywhere on earth could have you executed at will. The idea of the people being the just repository of all power, and that the rights of the individual came first was unknown in 1776.
This is garbage. The American Revolution was a reaffirmation of English rights that that the American colonists perceived were being ridden roughshod over by George III. American liberty was an inherited concept, not an original one...
“It is also instructive to note that the United States was the only major Western power or nation in the Western Hemisphere that had to fight a war to abolish slavery.”
What an ignorant comment. The U.S. Civil war was not fought over slavery. The U.S. Civil War was fought over the right of a state to leave the Union when the Federal Government had broken it’s compact and usurped unconstitutional authority over a State’s sovereignty.
I’ll accept that you are ignorant upon the subject, and not trolling.
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