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1 posted on 07/04/2011 11:09:35 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Every time the min wage goes up, so does the price of a loaf of bread so it’s all a wash in the earnings department. Also, anyone with savings takes a hit and their $ are devalued.


2 posted on 07/04/2011 11:16:10 AM PDT by bgill
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Minimum wage laws keep people down. They are disincentive from going out and improving yourself to make more money. Government forces employers to pay people more to stay in mind and spirit-killing zombie jobs that they might otherwise be forced to get out of to make more money. Minimum wage laws are making millions of people into mind-numbed zombies who will never really be alive.
Conservatives make the case that minimum wage hurts businesses. We must make people see that this legislation directly hurts those that it purports to help.


3 posted on 07/04/2011 11:16:31 AM PDT by all the best
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Seems reasonable to me.

But to fight the Minimum Wage, you have to fight the entire mindset behind it. So you MUST convince people that getting rid of the minimum wage (or, say, phasing it out), will result in virtually full-employment. Little by little. It’s a hard sell, and I respect her for opening the discussion.

If you go to McDonalds, you see that their drink dispensers (behind the counter) now do everything, from dropping the right cup, putting in the right amount of ice, to filling to the right level (for the size of the cup) to putting the cap on the cup. That is VERY EXPENSIVE, and I have no doubt that the minimum wage caused them to use this (i.e., one less employee per store).

That is how you approach the issue...otherwise you get demagogued, again.


5 posted on 07/04/2011 11:23:29 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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She should introduce legislation to that effect then. Congress makes the laws.


6 posted on 07/04/2011 11:27:21 AM PDT by bigbob
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The “true” minimum wage is zero.

Once you accept the concept of an artificial minimum wage;
you wet the stage for proposing a maximum wage.

If you have a job that you value at 3 bucks and hour;
and I am willing to do that job for 3 bucks an hour;
it is insane that the federal government would step in between you and I
and forbid that we reach such an agreement.


9 posted on 07/04/2011 11:30:39 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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RATS believe that employers are obligated to pay “a living wage” [whatever that is]. This is absurd; if an employer cant sell an employee’s labor for “a living wage,” his business will suffer if he is forced to pay it.


10 posted on 07/04/2011 11:31:31 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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My dad, a flaming liberal, was holding forth about “paying a living wage.” I said, “Look, I am trying to start a business. I could use some help, but I am not even making that “living wage” you are talking about. What if someone wants to work for me as opposed to not having a job at all? Am I supposed to still pay them “a living wage?”

He had no answer for that since he has never been an employer. For that matter, neither have I, I am a one man shop.


11 posted on 07/04/2011 11:32:49 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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LOL. Why would anyone bother to work for less, when they can get much more from welfare, SS, WIC and other programs. Lowering the min wage won’t do a damn thing unless you reduce social welfare programs too.


13 posted on 07/04/2011 11:35:46 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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I constantly argue about the problem with minimum wages. People look at you as if the Grim Reaper. It is a very tough sell, but I am glad the issue has been raised. Now, if only someone would bring up Davis-Bacon...
16 posted on 07/04/2011 11:46:20 AM PDT by fhayek
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I never have approved of the Minimum Wage.

Some say that without it, employers will exploit workers and drive wages down. Although there may be some that do, I don't that the end result will be downward.

Employers want and need the best employees possible to be competitive. If my competitor down the street makes more for the same goods or services, I may want to hire his people. The most productive workers make money for me and they are the ones I want no matter what it costs to get them. A poor explanation but you get my point.

21 posted on 07/04/2011 11:54:58 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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Yes, she is correct per usual.


24 posted on 07/04/2011 12:01:40 PM PDT by JaneNC (es.)
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This has been studied quite a bit and numerous such studies support Michele’s position on this issue. Here is a 1998 Policy Analysis by the Cato Institute: http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa106.html Numerous other free market think tanks have reached similar conclusions.


28 posted on 07/04/2011 12:08:16 PM PDT by rob777
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Sometimes I believe you have to throw liberalism in the face of liberals to get the result you want.

Republicans should advocate for a living wage. Make it an absurd amount like $50 an hour.

All the Republicans would have to say is “you liberals think forcing employers to pay $8 an hour is good for the economy, then why not $50? why not $75 why not $100?

And then have a national debate on it.

People will then come to realize that a living wage or minimum wage doesn’t work.

Employers who support the Democratic Party would be then forced to confront their hypocrisy. Force socialists to deal with their socialism.

I think absurdity and irony are effective tools that could be employed to defeat liberalism.

People may think I am nuts for thinking this way, but so long as liberals are spending other people’s money and not feeling the effects of their own stupidity, nothing will change.


29 posted on 07/04/2011 12:11:22 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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By government setting a floor on the wage that an employer is permitted to pay, individuals whose employment value falls below that wage simply will be unemployed.

But it does help the UNIONS whose contracts are often based on an increased percentage of the prevailing minimum wage. That is what minimum wage increase are all about!

35 posted on 07/04/2011 12:39:34 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Star Parker is a truly gutsy lady, and would be an asset to the conservative movement wherever she wants to be. Just sorry I wasn’t able to vote for her last Nov, but she gave a good account of herself in a heavily D-rat district.


39 posted on 07/04/2011 1:46:54 PM PDT by fantail 1952 (Truth is a virus!)
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Doing away with the minimum wage is a good ideal, the day after and not one minute before the last illegal is out of the country, claiming you should have a free market in labor while the chamber of commerce wants to promote unlimited illegal labor, is about the same thing as the cotton plantations. And any one that believe that is a good ideal, would fall in the owner category.


40 posted on 07/04/2011 2:41:00 PM PDT by org.whodat
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Thousands lose jobs due to higher federal minimum wage

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2009/05/14/thousands-lose-jobs-due-to-higher-federal-minimum-wage/

StarKist laying off 600-800 in American Samoa

http://kdka.com/wireapnewsfnpa/StarKist.laying.off.2.1693384.html

Chicken of the Sea closed its cannery in American Samoa l, citing the minimum wage law.


49 posted on 08/26/2011 5:34:15 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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