Skip to comments.Perry Breaks With a Fellow Texan: Bush
Posted on 07/05/2011 9:15:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
AUSTIN, Tex. Gov. Rick Perry, a Republican contemplating a presidential run, shares many attributes with the last man who ran for president from here, his predecessor and onetime patron, George W. Bush. He has the same straight-legged Texas swagger; the down-home, clipped speaking style; the desert-baked conservatism.
But in recent years, Mr. Perry has broken politically with Mr. Bush, questioning his credentials as a fiscal conservative, accusing him of going on a big government binge and playing down some of Mr. Bushs accomplishments in Texas in light of his own.
Mr. Perrys public statements exposed a long-simmering rivalry that had been little known outside of the political fraternity here but underscores the rightward drift of the Republican Party since Mr. Bush was president. More acutely, Mr. Perrys criticism holds potential peril and benefit for him should he decide to mount a presidential campaign, allowing him to establish an identity distinct from Mr. Bush but risking a guerrilla campaign against him by the former presidents inner circle.
Mr. Perry, whose aides say will make a decision within weeks, has been meeting around the country with potential fund-raisers, and last week went to Colorado for a gathering of prominent conservative rainmakers held by members of the Koch family, which helped finance the Tea Party movement.....
On government spending, immigration and education, Mr. Perrys criticisms of Mr. Bush have given him cachet with conservatives, especially with Tea Party voters who blame the former president for allowing spending and the reach of government to grow rapidly.
Those criticisms have burnished the Perry image as less prone to ideological compromise or a fuzzy compassionate brand of conservatism, an appealing trait to those Republican primary voters seeking purity in their nominee....
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Hey, I beat the “Guardasil” for brains dude!
Perry’s real position on immigration does not seem to be a tough one.
This year the legislature in Texas killed proposals that could have reached his desk and forced him to put his signature on some sort of action against illegals.
What was that you called it? “PDS”?
I am not given to clicking thru to NYT articles so I’m going out on a limb here to predict the article says little or nothing about Perry’s decidedly un-conservative actions such as the Trans-Texas Corridor, inaction on runaway illegal immigration, and Gardasil. Perry is not a true conservative choice in this election cycle. Perry is only a conservative if you have an east-of-the-Hudson perspective.
Does that also include ex-governors who move to Arizona?
Perry took a six thousand dollar campaign contribution from the pharma company behind Guardasil sent through a group called “Women In Politics.”
As governor, Perry proposed requiring 11 year and 12 year old girls to be injected with Guardasil. The drug is a vaccine against the sexually transmitted HPV virus.
Then the grassroots got angry that he would make a vaccine against a sexually transmitted disease mandatory for young girls (assume they are all going to have sex?????) and he backed off.
The Dems love you for it.
The “game” of politics.
Face it. The GOP is going to nominate McRomney. Your choice will be between Romney and Obama. He has made all the needed deals and compromises needed to be nominated. Happens every time.
I have never attacked any candidate.
I don't go onto threads and bash other candidates.
I started many Sarah Palin threads.
What a RINO! Rather than going to battle against the Commie, BHO,this guy prefers to lock horns with GWB? Bush is yesterday’s mashed potatoes! You want more of the same as we’ve been getting the past 2 1/2 years, vote for Rick Perry!
Yes. It is a NYT story. But much of this is already out there. They’ve just collected it and inserted the Tea Party into the story to update it.
“Mr. Perry has broken politically with Mr. Bush, questioning his credentials as a fiscal conservative, accusing him of going on a big government binge”
To give credit where credit is due, I have to admit that Perry distancing himself from Bush is a good thing.
I still don’t trust Perry on immigration and nanny staterism, but do credit him for realizing Bush was a disaster for conservatives.
What exactly are you talking about?
But don't dismiss this vaccine because your daughters are chaste. Someday they may marry, but not marry a chaste man. Do you know a lot of men that come to their marriages virgin? Men carry HPV also. There is also some encouraging research about this being effective against some herpes viruses.
HPV is a virus and cannot be treated with antibiotics. You may be thinking that it's like the clap. HPV is permanent.
I'm not talking up mandatory vaccination here. But don't throw out a possibly good vaccine with your indignation with how it was managed. I happen to think that there should be an effort to get more men to take the vaccine.
There’s no doubt in my mind that the end game is exactly that.
Rick Perry and all the other names out there are window dressing to split off votes from grassroots conservatives so Romney can win the nomination.
There’s only one person who has authentic anti-GOP establishment bonafides.
She’s gone “rogue” before and she’s the only candidate I will enthusiastically support (and that means money from my pocket, too).
Perry isn’t as conservative as I’d like, esp. on the issues noted (amnesty, big-government-ing like Gardasil), but he seems several notches more so than Bush 43. I’m not ready to put him in the rejects bin just yet. He’d be hard for Obama to beat due to the jobs record.
Spare me the Diogenesis rhetoric. There are actually some of us who have brains of our own and don’t need validation or you to clarify our perspective for us.
And then this.
July 4, 2011: [Texas] Rule requiring drivers to prove citizenship now law As the House early last month debated a must-pass finance bill, one member slipped in language that puts into law a controversial Texas Department of Public Safety policy requiring driver's license applicants to show they're in the country legally.
The amendment, added by Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie, to the education funding bill legislators needed to balance the state budget had originally been included in Senate Bill 9, the so-called "sanctuary cities" bill that failed in the special session. It also had appeared in an omnibus homeland security bill by Sen. Tommy Williams, R-The Woodlands, that died in the regular session.
The new law approved last Tuesday makes some tweaks to a 2008 DPS policy that prevents illegal immigrants from getting a driver's license and created a special license for temporary visitors. The rules require Texans applying for or renewing their license to show they are citizens or are in the country legally.
By putting it into law the state potentially undermines an ongoing lawsuit that argues DPS doesn't have authority to check legal status."....
I, for one, am very happy to have a Republican candidate explain how he (or she) disagrees with the disaster that was George W. Bush's "Compassionate Conservatism." Its not going after Bush, who is now out of office. Its making clear that he understands the disasters of the Bush years when it came to spending and entitlement expansion. I want a candidate who is going to say "No" to spending, period. And who recognizes that the "Compassionate Conservatives" of 2000 though 2006 set the stage for the Dems' and Obama's spending binge.
Yep, I wont support anyone that doesnt explain where Republicans went wrong under Bush and it better be specific and credible, not the canned stuff that typically gets thrown around by Republicans.
Bush pushed NCLB and medicare drugs to get re-elected in 2004 (yippee we beat Kerry) and then went crazy after the election each year getting worse as his approval rating got worse and worse, the candidates should start there.
There are three directions one can see the wrong here.
One, violation of family religious and moral convictions by state mandate.
The state mandating a vaccine that has had more doubts about its safety rasied as time went on.
The link between a poliitcal contribution from a business and government policy.
They all make Perry look bad in my book.
LOL! Good one. :D
I'm with you. I don't care which of the Republicans you look at, each of them has something about them that some aren't going to like. But-and this is a big BUT-any of the Republicans, and I mean ANY, is better than the flop-eared S.O.B that currently sits in the Oval Office (when he's not golfing or on vacation) and I will run to vote for whomever runs against the muzzi, impostor American that is in office now when given the opportunity to do so.
Perry was for amnesty. For me, he’s done!
You get it. The rest of this babble is lame Politibabble. The GOP is going with Romney. They will lose.
I think Perry is a business as usual politician who is ducking a tough stance on illegal immigration by speaking at the edges of the issue.
Heck, even Arizona’s SB 1070 was a political ploy by a moderate Republican Jan Brewer to hustle conservatives and win re-election as Arizona governor in 2010.
She signed the law, got the credit for signing it while the courts tied up implementing the law anyway. NO ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW WITH A MODERATE REPUBLICAN GETTING THE CREDIT FOR SIGNING THE BILL.
Rick Perry is part of a political game right now designed to split up grassroots conservtive votes so Mitt Romney can be the GOP nominee in 2012.
That’s my bottom line.
Look at his history yourself.
In all reality, your worst fear will probably happen anyway, in spite of your best effort to force the opposite.
You also don't realize it, but it is painfully obvious what you and your kind are up to.
I have not picked my candidate, but he would have to be a poor one indeed for me not to support against Obama.
And I would very much like that candidate to not be Romney.
We are not killing them off. They killed themselves off.
It is well known by insiders that knew Bush and Cheney that Bush gave Rick Perry a nickname. The nickname is "The Dumbass".
I would not go so far as to say that. It’s obvious, that one went smoking right over the tops of their heads.
My dear, you have it backwards. The Bush's have gone after Rick Perry.
Re: Taking it to Obama.
Obama certainly doesn't like the Photo ID that took Gov. Rick Perry 6 years to get passed.
Obama doesn't like a lot of things about Perry's politics or Texans for that matter.
Perry voices concern to feds about anti-Israel flotillas -- June 29, 2011 ....Perry wrote in a letter dated Wednesday, According to numerous recent media reports, American citizens and organizations, together with a coalition of violent anti-Israeli organizations from other countries, have organized efforts to breach Israels Maritime blockade of the Gaza Strip as early as this week.
He continued, The act of funding, supporting, organizing and engaging in these efforts appears to constitute participation in a naval expedition against a people with whom the United States is at peace, as well as material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization and other violations....
The letter concludes, I respectfully request that the U.S. Department of Justice take immediate steps to investigate, enjoin and bring to justice all parties found to be in violation of U.S. law by their participation in these efforts....
"......When Obama continued to refuse even five minutes for the Governor, Perry took matters into this own hands and was standing on the tarmac at Austins airport when President Obama stepped off of Air Force One. Obama looked confused, Perry looked determined. Obama still ignored the pleas for help.
Perry again took matters into his own hands, and established an elite unit of Texas Rangers to bolster border security..." Source
Rick Perry Hits Obama on Abortion Before Possible GOP Campaign "....Perry said that, under Obama our federal tax dollars can now be used to fund abortion all over the world. With the stroke of a pen, abortion essentially became a U.S. foreign export.
On embryonic stem cell research, he said Obama was turning the remains of unborn children into nothing more than raw material, according to an AP report. Obama is ignoring the overriding responsibility of every government that is to protect citizens at every stage of their lives, especially those who cannot protect themselves, Perry said...."
Rick Perry: Al Gore's gone to Hell
Perry does not believe there is valid scientific proof of anthropogenic global warming. He has said several times that there is no scientific consensus on the issue.
On September 7, 2007 Perry gave a speech to California Republicans. He said, "Virtually every day another scientist leaves the global warming bandwagon. ... But you won't read about that in the press because they have already invested in one side of the story."
You have no LINK because you are just throwing out anything to see if it sticks.
If you have a complaint explain it and LINK it to facts.
I’m not going to lose sleep over my first choice for president.
But I will give my opinion and analysis of the situation.
The GOP race is being rigged with splitter candidates being pumped up to cover Romney’s flanks so he can win the nomination.
The political bosses may speak of an “open primary” or “open race” but behind the scenes their money and organization creates the final outcome of the race. This has happened countless times in state and local races.
Conservatives in the grassroots of the GOP aren’t organized and the insiders either overcome the conservatives with money and media behind their candidate (usually projecting a conservative image).
If the conservative opposition is too strong at grassroots level and the moderate insider can’t get a majority in a primary vote, the insiders create a third candidate to run a conservative campaign (tough radical speeches and image) splittng conservative votes so the RINO wins the primary.
We see this strategy now playing out in the presidential race with the fear of Palin and Paul driving the RINO’s to go to extreme lengths with this strategy.
Here you go..There are lots of good things about Perry...After all he is my Governor and I voted for him each and every time he ran..We like him here if we didn’t he would be gone..He is good for Texas and could be great for the country but if you don’t want him then if he does run for president don’t vote for him..He can be our governor and continue to help this state stay #1..
Agree with you....the ideal candidate is for ideologues, whether it be from the left or the right. You can see what it’s done from the left. This is a center right country.
I understand that the Bushes don't like it when Rick Perry calls George W. Bush, "George" in public.
Imagine? Such disrespect.
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