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Dick Armey: On Rick Perry
CNBC interview ^ | July 5, 2011 | Lori Ann LaRocco

Posted on 07/05/2011 1:09:41 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yup. Armey went on to regurgitate nearly every liberal straw-man argument in favor of amnesty.

Armey said “this is a nation of immigrants” and “if you love America, love freedom” and if you will work and pay taxes, you should be welcome in the country.

Last time I checked, people working for $6-8/hr were not net taxpayers. They would represent huge new obligations for entitlement programs, and a drain on the budget.

The former majority leader, who is now chairman of FreedomWorks and heavily involved in the Tea Party movement, said the INS is “deformed” and “dysfunctional.”

Nonsense. The US is still the most immigration-friendly nation on the planet. Over 1 million immigrants are processed and admitted legally every year. A full 20% of citizens and legal residents are foreign born. If anything, we need to cut back on LEGAL immigration.

“They way they treat these folks is unbelievably rude and callous and cruel. Fix that agency, make it do its job, make it do its job in a humane … fashion and then you can control the borders,” he said.

I call BS. You want to see rude, callous, and cruel? Do some research on how Mexico treats people who enter their country illegally.

Armey also said “the Republican Party is the most naturally talented party at losing its natural constituents in the history of the world.”

Can't argue that. The Republicans should be front-and-center hammering home to black voters just what the effects of illegal immigration are on their employment prospects, and what Dem social policies have done to black families. After all, MLK was a registered republican.

“This party was born with the emancipation proclamation and can’t get a black vote to safe its life. How do they do that?”

Not sure. But continually throwing blacks under the bus in favor of immigrant labor would seem like a good place to start.

Armey is a blowhard of the highest order, and a well-known open borders advocate.
21 posted on 07/05/2011 3:17:22 PM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: EternalVigilance
Rick Perry = Karl Rove, GW Bush, Newt Gingrich, Dick Armey, Grover Norquist redux.

How?

22 posted on 07/05/2011 3:19:37 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SoConPubbie

From your link:

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/march-15-2010/dick-armey-stuns-his-tea-partiers-open-borders-advocacy-see-his-immigra

“...In language that will likely be recalled in the upcoming debate over immigration, Armey minced no words in condemning Republicans over their stance.

“Who in the Republican Party was the genius who said now that we have identified the fastest-growing demographic in America, let’s go out and alienate them? This is a nation of immigrants. ... There is room in America,” he said.

“When I was Republican leader, I saw to it that Tom Tancredo could not get on a stage because I saw how destructive he was,” Armey said of the anti-immigration former congressman. “Republicans have to get off this goofiness. Ronald Reagan said, ‘Tear down this wall.’ Tom Tancredo said ‘Build that wall.’ Who’s right? America is not a nation that builds walls. America is a nation that opens doors, and we should be that.”

Armey also predicted this latest conservative wave would not ebb like others he had lived through, starting with Barry “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice” Goldwater’s run for president in 1964 through Ronald “morning in America” Reagan’s victory in 1980, Ross Perot’s failed third-party presidential bid in 1992 and the Republican takeover of Congress two years later on the strength of the Contract with America Armey helped author. He said the new movement, which is writing its own Contract From America, is the first powered by social networking and the Internet....”


23 posted on 07/05/2011 3:24:17 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Windflier
Which Texans? About 75% of Texas conservatives who post to this site are against a Perry nomination.

How and where did you get your number?

How many Texans post at FR?

Where is the state by state breakdown?

This would be interesting information.

24 posted on 07/05/2011 3:26:54 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BereanBrain
Ok, so Perry officially has the RINO endorsement crowd locked up!

Who is your non-RINO candidate?

I'd like to research their record, associations, votes, quotes, donors, etc.

25 posted on 07/05/2011 3:29:46 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: exit82

Me neither.


26 posted on 07/05/2011 3:30:22 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: CowboyJay
Thank you for putting your thoughts down.

A question -- Where can I find this information?:

You stated: Armey is........a well-known open borders advocate.

I'd like to find where he's called for an open border. Is that just with Mexico or has he called for an open border with Canada? All LINKS to that will be appreciated -- Canada and Mexico both.

The reason I ask, is that you're in Colorado and us taxpayers here in Texas are paying to protect the U.S. INTERNATIONAL border Texas shares with Mexico (1300+miles borders Texas -- lines up beside us -- all 1300= miles of it) and we're paying about $160Million/2 years out of OUR state tax money to protect your butt sitting up there in Colorado.

So if you have a few extra pennies left up there in Colorado, please send them to Texas so we can help our Texas Rangers fight back the immigrant tide so you can not feel guilty about us down here in Texas fighting this by ourselves, with our blood and treasure.

Thank you.

27 posted on 07/05/2011 3:43:54 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“A nation without borders is not a nation.”

- Ronald Wilson Reagan

Armey is a blowhard jackwagon, and deliberately misconstruing Reagan’s position on immigration.


28 posted on 07/05/2011 3:49:05 PM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How and where did you get your number? How many Texans post at FR? Where is the state by state breakdown?

Geeez, you're awful touchy. Read my post again before blowing a cork.

I said:

About 75% of Texas conservatives who post to this site are against a Perry nomination.

29 posted on 07/05/2011 3:52:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
National Review editor Rich Lowry doesn't seem to care much for Texas Governor Rick Perry.

Do you think so? It's hard to tell. It doesn't look so black and white to me as it does to Ed the blogger.

I don't get the impression that Lowry's 100% on the Bush side of things for "compassionate conservatism" and against Rick Perry. Lowry sees that the Bush era is already over, but doesn't quite know what to make of Perry. Maybe "bemused" or "befuddled" or "perplexed" might describe his state of mind more than "hostile" or "opposed" or "critical."

What I get out of this -- or what I bring to this -- is that politicians can really surprise or disappoint you. What went for Bush, will go for Perry as well: he won't be quite what people expect him to be. I think Lowry sees things in the same light. Ed Kainz seems like a very intelligent guy, but it looks like he hasn't learned that lesson.

30 posted on 07/05/2011 3:57:12 PM PDT by x
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To: CowboyJay
So you have nothing. Well, I leave this here for you and anyone who wants to learn something about Rick Perry, Texas border security and Texas Trans Corridor.

June 29, 2011: Roger Hedgecock interview with Rick Perry (starts 1/2 way into audio file)

By the way, Perry has asked for 3000 troops on the Texas INTERNATIONAL border with Mexico and he has asked for drones. He has been refused help. So Rick Perry has visited Israel and studied how they protect the Gaza Strip.

Yet you just sit there typing away and insulting people who actually try to do things for this country. That is your right.

31 posted on 07/05/2011 4:03:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: x
...What went for Bush, will go for Perry as well: he won't be quite what people expect him to be.

Who ever is? I just would like to see the man get a fair shake from the starting line and go from there. Thank you for the conversation. Here's something else you might find interesting. This writer's opinion is clear. And he has something important to say.

Montana: Legal gamesmanship threatens our energy future “Texas Gov. Rick Perry is able to boast about job growth under his watch, noting that over 265,000 jobs, or nearly 37 percent of the jobs created nationwide since the summer of 2009, have been created in the Lone Star state.

He credits this growth to a few simple conditions: low taxes, a regulatory climate that is fair and predictable, and a legal system that limits frivolous lawsuits. According to the Wall Street Journal, nearly one-fourth of the 70 companies that left California this year relocated to Texas.

When new or relocating companies and investors survey the landscape and consider Montana, what do they see? Well, when it comes to natural-resource development, the landscape looks risky.

Recent headlines highlight two major resource development projects slogging through endless legal and regulatory challenges. Investment flees this kind of uncertainty, so Montanans interested in the future economic stability of this state should be wary of the signals we send.….”

32 posted on 07/05/2011 4:09:48 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Windflier

You’re pulling numbers and posting them randomly to make a statement of fact with no basis.

But I’m touchy.

Sheeez.


33 posted on 07/05/2011 4:12:10 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You’re pulling numbers and posting them randomly to make a statement of fact with no basis.

What? It's a personal observation.

I spend a lot of time here, and from what I observe, ABOUT 75% of Texas conservatives WHO POST HERE are against Perry becoming the Republican nominee.

I've now posted the same communication to you three times, and all you've done is snarl at me for doing so. How about addressing the message, instead of attacking the messenger?

34 posted on 07/05/2011 4:20:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I get very, very tired of FReepers who expect me to do their homework for them. Deflection, denial, and obfuscation are the fallbacks of leftism.

Armey is a free-trade absolutist and vocal advocate of open borders. Has been for several decades. A simple google search of "Dick Armey open borders" will net you, at minimum, several thousand results.

I'd be glad to send you some spare dough from Colorado, but we haven't got any. After all, we have a state balanced-budget-amendment (TABOR), and a huge illegal immigrant problem of our own. Turns out they like Colorado better than Texas. Pretty close to a half million living here now.

I might be a bit more sympathetic if that pathetic RiNO congress-critter of yours, Kay Barely Republican, had not (during the middle of the night, when she figured no one was paying attention) single-handedly axed funding for the federal Secure Fence Act of 2006 that we conservatives worked so hard to get passed. It would have gone a long way towards fixing the exact problem about which you are currently whining.

I believe I'll save my money, and donate to a Conservative presidential candidate (i.e. - somebody other than Rick "Stalking Horse" Perry). Note to Texas Republicans - please kindly quit electing RiNOs to national office. When push-comes-to-shove, they're even quicker to stab us in the back than dems.

Signed,

One of those pesky conservatives who personally made over 100 phone calls in support of the Secure Fence Act.
35 posted on 07/05/2011 4:24:01 PM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Comparing Pawlenty and Christy, I think I’ve isolated why I like Christy better as a candidate even though Pawlenty lines up better with my thinking.

The Republican candidate that takes on Obama is going to have to fight through the press to get to the American people. Pawlenty has not shown any ability to do that. Christy can.


36 posted on 07/05/2011 4:25:24 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
First you get PSCHO-FREEP on your side, and now Dick Armey.......

A baaaad week for Perry.

:-)

37 posted on 07/05/2011 4:26:32 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They’re all joined at the hip.

Google “Rick Perry Karl Rove.” See what you come up with.


38 posted on 07/05/2011 4:48:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rick Perry's New Sidekick, Grover Norquist
39 posted on 07/05/2011 4:58:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here’s Norquist touting Perry back at the beginning of June.

http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Grover_Norquist_ACCF7DD5-CCE5-4378-B271-BF6972B808F7.html


40 posted on 07/05/2011 5:00:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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