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NYT OpEd: Before You Judge (Strauss-Kahn's accuser), Stand in Her Shoes
NYT ^ | 5 July | McGovern

Posted on 07/06/2011 6:04:39 AM PDT by flowerplough

Revalations about the hotel housekeeper who accused Dominique Strauss-Kahn of sexual assault suggest that she embellished claims of abuse to receive asylum, fudged her tax returns, had ties to people with criminal backgrounds, had unexplained deposits in her bank account and changed the account of the encounter she gave investigators. Yet those who would rush to judge her should consider the context.

Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s accuser is from Guinea, also the home country of Amadou Diallo, the street peddler who was shot to death in the doorway of his Bronx apartment building by four New York City police officers in 1999. Guineans leave their country in large numbers, partly because of grinding poverty; 70 percent live on less than $1.25 a day , despite the fact that Guinea has almost half of the world’s bauxite (from which aluminum is made), as well as iron, gold, uranium, diamonds and offshore oil.

The same leaders whose theft and mismanagement have kept so many Guineans poor in the decades since independence from France, in 1958, have also been ferociously violent, massacring as many as 186 unarmed demonstrators calling for democratic reforms in 2007, and at least 157 demanding the same in 2009. After the latter massacre, members of the state security forces gang-raped dozens of women to punish them for protesting and to terrorize men and women into silence.

While the American government condemned the massacres, the bauxite kept shipping, supplying Americans with aluminum cookware and automobile parts. That’s no surprise; the biggest mining companies doing business in Guinea are based in the United States, Canada, Britain and Australia.

People fleeing state-sponsored violence and extreme poverty will do anything to leave. I receive requests every few weeks to write expert-witness affidavits for West African asylum claimants. As a personal matter of conscience, ...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: strausskahn
So her alleged scheming and almost-certain dishonesty and probable prostitution is partly our fault because we import aluminum?
1 posted on 07/06/2011 6:04:44 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough

That’s right. “We’re all guilty!”


2 posted on 07/06/2011 6:06:35 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: flowerplough

They left out the part that she selling sex for money to Hotel Guests and targeted this guy because he was rich and expected some kind of payment.


3 posted on 07/06/2011 6:10:59 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: agere_contra
"Debt is the foundation of banking."
(some anonymous banker)
4 posted on 07/06/2011 6:11:52 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: flowerplough
Just as we should ignore the forgery, fraud and identity theft of illegal aliens and give them amnesty. Because the United States sucks. Or something.
5 posted on 07/06/2011 6:13:16 AM PDT by PogySailor (The ruling class will not go down easily. And neither will their paid hacks.)
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To: flowerplough

It’s our fault.


6 posted on 07/06/2011 6:13:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: flowerplough

I don’t think I’d fit in her shoes. I really don’t, and for that I am glad.


7 posted on 07/06/2011 6:13:55 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama can't count.)
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To: flowerplough
Oh brother! How can they even publish this tripe?
8 posted on 07/06/2011 6:15:22 AM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: flowerplough

I wouldn’t touch those shoes.


9 posted on 07/06/2011 6:16:56 AM PDT by Force of Truth (You don't have to be smart or be good even. If you want my vote, you just have to be CHEAP.)
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To: flowerplough

Feminists never lie about rape.


10 posted on 07/06/2011 6:17:45 AM PDT by Force of Truth (You don't have to be smart or be good even. If you want my vote, you just have to be CHEAP.)
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To: flowerplough

I just can’t wear heals.


11 posted on 07/06/2011 6:20:08 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: flowerplough

What a bizarre piece.
This woman isn’t trying to gain asylum, she’s already here. Once asylum is granted, the person must follow the law. If they get involved in drugs & prostitution & money-laundering and who knows what other illegal activity, they should be arrested, jailed and then deported.

Not to say that I don’t think Strauss-Kahn is a creepy lech and hope the new accusation of attempted rape lands him in jail.


12 posted on 07/06/2011 6:22:24 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: flowerplough

Before you judge Adolph Hitler, recall he had a tough homelife, and that he is an immigrant from Austria....


13 posted on 07/06/2011 6:25:10 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: flowerplough
NYT OpEd: Before You Judge (Strauss-Kahn's accuser), Stand in Her Shoes

Stand in her shoes? OK, no problem...

...as long as I don't have to lie on her back.

14 posted on 07/06/2011 6:27:38 AM PDT by moovova (That laser-like focus was just a sharp stick in the eye.)
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To: flowerplough

“Yet those who would rush to judge her should consider the context.”

The foundation of the moral relativism that drives so much of the progressive agenda is captured well in that single sentence. We just need to see everything in proper context, you know...

Bull Puckey!


15 posted on 07/06/2011 6:27:53 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: flowerplough

WTF?


16 posted on 07/06/2011 6:28:05 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: agere_contra

No,Rich White Guys!77777777777


17 posted on 07/06/2011 6:28:16 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: flowerplough

If I stand in her shoes, can I have her bank accounts??


18 posted on 07/06/2011 6:28:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Force of Truth

Stand in her shoes? You mean with all the goop
on them? Any way wouldn’t it be better to ask,
“Why don’t you kneel in her shoes?”


19 posted on 07/06/2011 6:29:31 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RexBeach
I probably couldn't stand in her shoes either.

But I might be willing to stand on her shoes, if she were wearing them.

20 posted on 07/06/2011 6:29:47 AM PDT by Erasmus (I love "The Raven," but then what do I know? I'm just a poetaster.)
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To: bmwcyle

“Heels”, perhaps?


21 posted on 07/06/2011 6:31:45 AM PDT by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: ladyvet
Oh brother! How can they even publish this tripe?

Because if they didn't publish this tripe, they would have to sell people blank pieces of paper. Most sane people won't pay a whole lot for blank pieces of paper. Of course, we're talking NYT readers, so sane doesn't enter into the picture.
22 posted on 07/06/2011 6:38:33 AM PDT by Cheburashka (If found, please return this Ring of Power to Sauron, Lord of Darkness. Return postage guaranteed.)
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To: flowerplough

Please show a picture of her. I am sure you can tell whether she is guilty or innocent just by looking at her.


23 posted on 07/06/2011 6:38:50 AM PDT by Rapscallion
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To: flowerplough

Marxist Socialist Scumbag Meets Illegal Alien Lying Scheming Prostitute

Whatever happens... it’s all good.


24 posted on 07/06/2011 6:41:49 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: flowerplough
>>> Stand in Her Shoes

Stand in them, fine. But don't run in them.


25 posted on 07/06/2011 6:46:29 AM PDT by tlb
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To: PubliusMM
“Yet those who would rush to judge her should consider the context.”

The foundation of the moral relativism that drives so much of the progressive agenda is captured well in that single sentence. We just need to see everything in proper context, you know...

Il n'ya pas de hors-texte.

26 posted on 07/06/2011 6:48:16 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (HEY UNION MEMBER: INVEST IN YOUR OWN DAMN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A CHANGE!)
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To: All

Libs live in an alternate reality...


27 posted on 07/06/2011 6:49:22 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: flowerplough

The context is called “perjury.” Or “Bearing false witness.”
If she can’t be deported, she needs to be in prison.


28 posted on 07/06/2011 6:57:35 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: flowerplough

Just as I suspected from the very outset-———Bush’s Fault!!!!


29 posted on 07/06/2011 6:58:27 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: flowerplough

Before you judge her, you should consider her CHARACTER. Nothing else is really relevant. I do judge her, I actually dare to have an opinion, and I will label her actions — reprehensible, low-life, illegal, slander.


30 posted on 07/06/2011 7:05:09 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: flowerplough

Walk a mile in her shoes?

Sure, the same way I’d walk a mile in Casey Anthony’s shoes.

I don’t give one wit about her life story and experiences that led her to lie and commit a vial act against another human being.

It isn’t a cause but a pathology.


31 posted on 07/06/2011 7:07:17 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: flowerplough

The woman has several hundred thousand dollars in the bank, all ill-gained. This was to be the big one, and it looks like it’s backfiring on her. No pity for her here. She pursued the American dream illegally, and needs to be jailed and/or deported.


32 posted on 07/06/2011 7:08:35 AM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Melchior

People are not sensitive to others life experiences and how it affects them.

It’s just sad....


33 posted on 07/06/2011 7:09:00 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: flowerplough

Well, what can you say, really? It’s ok for an illegal alien to illegally lie on a Federal asylum application and illegally destroy the reputation of an innocent sleazeball because you and I have automobile parts derived from bauxite imported from her wicked country? Bauxite made her do it? Hey, ya just gotta love that New York Times! They never fail to disappoint!


34 posted on 07/06/2011 7:13:05 AM PDT by catnipman
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To: flowerplough

If she was a prostitute, we would have never heard a word. He would have paid her.

If she is a ho, my guess is that he played a little rough, she complained, he refused to pay and she cleaned the floor with his life.

If she was a maid, he treated her like a prostitute and she cleaned the floor with his life. Either way, this globalist idiot made a really bad decision.


35 posted on 07/06/2011 7:14:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: flowerplough
Is this some sort of April Fools article?

ML/NJ

36 posted on 07/06/2011 7:30:38 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: flowerplough

So it is ok that an innocent man is jailed


37 posted on 07/06/2011 7:59:30 AM PDT by italianquaker (When will Wallace ask obama if he is a flake?)
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To: italianquaker
Did anybody care to think that this was Strauss-Kahn’s way of handling this situation. Perhaps his people paid off the maid handsomely with this “made up” scheme. Just a thought.
38 posted on 07/06/2011 8:46:08 AM PDT by redflash (Momentum Maker!)
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To: flowerplough

Another “poor people can’t be expected to do the right thing” article.


39 posted on 07/06/2011 8:48:27 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: redflash

Everybody has a price


40 posted on 07/06/2011 9:06:09 AM PDT by italianquaker (When will Wallace ask obama if he is a flake?)
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To: flowerplough

btw - this is an Op Ed...so it belongs in Editorials sidebar


41 posted on 07/06/2011 10:55:17 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

But it’s an OpEd about today’s news


42 posted on 07/06/2011 11:00:25 AM PDT by flowerplough (Bammy: It frustrates me when people talk about government jobs as if somehow those are worth less.)
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To: flowerplough

Correct. So it goes under News Editorals so that people can find it in the Editorial sidebar.


43 posted on 07/06/2011 11:06:04 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

So show me “Editorials” under the “Choose Forum” popup that appears after I click “Post”, wouldja please?

Choose Forum
Bloggers & Personal

General/Chat

GOP Club

News/Activism

Religion

RLC Liberty Caucus

Smoky Backroom

VetsCoR


44 posted on 07/07/2011 5:00:40 AM PDT by flowerplough (Bammy: It frustrates me when people talk about government jobs as if somehow those are worth less.)
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To: flowerplough

I’ll send you FReepmail to explain it. : )


45 posted on 07/07/2011 6:06:29 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: flowerplough

Yup. Bush’s fault.
It’s a pity the NYT marxists couldnt be more concise and just call her a victim of capitalist oppression.
It’s well known that the existence of metal refining companies causes false rape accusations.


46 posted on 07/07/2011 10:17:53 AM PDT by WOSG (Herman Cain for President)
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To: tlb

“Needless Markup”


47 posted on 07/07/2011 12:48:13 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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