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No Homophobia : A response to gay marriage advocates
National Review ^ | 07/06/2011 | George Weigel

Posted on 07/06/2011 7:10:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/06/2011 7:10:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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How long is it before, say, “Brides” magazine is deemed politically incorrect, as well as Mother's Day and Father's Day? New york marriage licenses now say “Spouse A” and Spouse B” instead of Bride and Groom.

After all, if legalizing same-sex marriage is like making interracial marriage legal (an argument often made but which i strongly disagree with), then isn't “Brides” magazine a little like having “White couples” magazine?

no, I'm not making the argument at all - but they will. All after saying that same-sex marriage won't affect anyone else.

2 posted on 07/06/2011 7:23:43 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: SeekAndFind

That I don’t want weeds in my lawn does not mean I am scared of dandelions.


3 posted on 07/06/2011 7:26:40 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: SeekAndFind

The sooner folks start looking to their faith to define and protect marriage the better off the institution will be. Many have been conditioned to think that marriage comes from the state, so they accept whatever the state says is marriage, even impossibilities like “gay marriage”. Statists and homosexualists love that, and they really love that the state has the power to punish if one doesn’t accept their ever devolving take on marriage.

Freegards


4 posted on 07/06/2011 7:27:24 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: SeekAndFind

“If the state can redefine marriage and enforce that redefinition, it can do so with the doctor-patient relationship, the lawyer-client relationship, the parent-child relationship, the confessor-penitent relationship, and virtually every other relationship that is woven into the texture of civil society. In doing so, the state does serious damage to the democratic project. Concurrently, it reduces what it tries to substitute for reality to farce.”

This above statement from the article is the crux of the problem we face. The fascist homosexual left-wing do not even want for people to have a right to representation on the state definition of marriage. They want the voice of those who oppose homosexuality outlawed as hate speech even. So if we are denied a right to representation on the issue of how marriage is defined then on what basis will we maintain this right on other issues such as the ‘age of consent’, polygamy and any issue dealing with sexuality or public definitions of decency?

The word ‘homophobic’ is a made up word meant to smear those who oppose homosexuality. The word first appeared in ‘Screw’ magazine back around 1970. It has no basis as a real word at all and is meaningless except for being used as a smear against anyone who doesn’t march lockstep with the fascist homosexual agenda.

People had better start to stand up strongly against this fascist movement or we will lose more of our rights on issues that deal with child safety in public and on issues of public decency. If we do not fight and simply allow this fascist movement full access to our children in public schools then we will see a new generation become even more corrupted then the children corrupted by the sixties counter culture, much worse. Every human being is corruptible, children especially so.


5 posted on 07/06/2011 7:31:25 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: SeekAndFind

Ping


6 posted on 07/06/2011 7:38:21 AM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: cvq3842

Birth certificates can say Parent A and Parent B, but, to date, sperm still has to come from a male parent and an egg from a female parent no matter what the child is forced to use for a Birth Certificate.


7 posted on 07/06/2011 7:38:27 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Ransomed

you are exactly right. The state can say down is up, but it isn’t so. The state can say Stanley and Stuart are married, it doesn’t make it so.


8 posted on 07/06/2011 7:45:17 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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I think it was Lincoln who has the quote about calling the tail of a dog a leg. You can call it a leg all you want, but the dog still only has four legs.

The bad news is the state has the power to punish if you don’t buy into their claim that “gay marriage’ is possible. The good news is that they really can’t change the true definition of marriage, just like passing a law that the moon is made of cheese doesn’t make it so. The other good news is that some faiths aren’t ever going to accept “gay marriage”, no matter the punishment. It’s just a shame that the state has that power in the first place.

Freegards


9 posted on 07/06/2011 7:53:40 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: maica

Correct - the law will never trump biology. At least not anytime soon . . .


10 posted on 07/06/2011 8:14:59 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To libertarians...

The state issues marriage licenses

How is a right "licensed" by the state?

How does the the state restrict anyone from marriage (be it incest or polygamy) if it is a right of contract between people

Does a lack of a marriage "licenses" issued by the state restrict any sexual active?

The state has only one reason to encourage and license marriage, "Breeder" are a fundamental necessary....

11 posted on 07/06/2011 8:58:31 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Global Warming, undeniable truth; Obama, infallible genius; Apple perfect, invented everything)
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To: SeekAndFind
"... holding fast to their homophobic prejudices, ..."

That some sexual perversions instill revulsion is not "phobic" prejudice. It's human nature.

12 posted on 07/06/2011 9:59:54 AM PDT by Daffy
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


13 posted on 07/06/2011 9:46:18 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Placemark.


14 posted on 07/06/2011 9:59:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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‘Many have been conditioned to think that marriage comes from the state, so they accept whatever the state says is marriage, even impossibilities like “gay marriage”.’

So NOW, the left wants the govt. in their bedroom.


15 posted on 07/06/2011 11:14:34 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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The “gay marriage” push is simply about being able to punish with state power those who won’t buy into the statists and homosexualists ever devolving take on marriage.

Freegards


16 posted on 07/07/2011 8:23:49 AM PDT by Ransomed
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“How is a right “licensed” by the state?”

Why can’t I just ask government agents to find some woman and make her be my wife, like the right to an attorney, where they have to find someone to be my lawyer in court?

Why can’t I just marry whomever I please? But wait, a woman can turn me down on a marriage proposal. No one likes the idea, but it can happen.

The whole problem here is that they mess with the definition of what a right so much as even is:

1) Something you can call upon the government to provide you with.
2) Something that a person is compelled to comply with
3) Something that everyone must recognize.

In all three cases, even with real traditional marriage, this would not be true, and therefore, marriage is not a right.


17 posted on 07/08/2011 9:29:46 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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marriage is not a right.

I would say is neither a right or a privilege ...If you look at marriage historically ...first there was no such thing as formal marriage...people "mated", period...and then people started making and taking "vows" that became formalize in there religions...still no "state" involvement unless the "state" also controlled the peoples "religious" rites

But mating also produced offspring so now you have to dealt with legal descendant vs bastard offspring... so that "state" does now have non religious but legal reason to be involved in and make "formal legal marriage"

18 posted on 07/08/2011 10:36:43 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Global Warming, undeniable truth; Obama, infallible genius; Apple perfect, invented everything)
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20 posted on 07/12/2011 5:06:24 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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