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US, Mexico sign cross-border trucking agreement (Has NAFTA SHAFT'd Ya Today? Just Wait!)
Yahoo ^ | 7/6/11 | Jonathan M. Katz - ap

Posted on 07/06/2011 3:05:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

MEXICO CITY (AP) — U.S. and Mexican officials signed an agreement Wednesday allowing each country's trucks to traverse the other's highways, implementing a key provision of the North American Free Trade Agreement after nearly two decades of bickering.

Transportation secretaries Ray LaHood and Dionisio Perez-Jacome signed the three-year memorandum, which is based on an agreement announced in March by Presidents Barack Obama and Felipe Calderon.

NAFTA, signed in 1994, had called for Mexican trucks to have unrestricted access to highways in border states by 1995 and full access to all U.S. highways by January 2000. Canadian trucks have no limits on where they can go.

But until now, Mexican trucks have seldom been allowed farther than a buffer zone on the U.S. side of the border. In retaliation, Mexico had imposed higher tariffs on dozens of U.S. products.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: agreement; mexican; mexico; nafta; trucking; truckingagreement; trucks
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1 posted on 07/06/2011 3:05:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Anyone ‘in the know’ about how well Mexican trucks are inspected and/or Mexican truck drivers qualified to drive a big rig?


2 posted on 07/06/2011 3:07:44 PM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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per LaHood.. ‘safety concerns have been resolved’.


3 posted on 07/06/2011 3:08:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge; All
"US, Mexico sign cross-border trucking agreement (Has NAFTA SHAFT'd Ya Today? Just Wait!)"


4 posted on 07/06/2011 3:09:59 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Made In The USA

Inspection don’t need no stinking inspection. Not going to be any americans driving trucks into Mexico.


5 posted on 07/06/2011 3:11:02 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: NormsRevenge
Yeah, no doubt about that. Truckloads of Democratic voters (er....illegals)and pharmaceuticals (er...illicit drugs). No "safety concerns" here. [/s]
6 posted on 07/06/2011 3:12:01 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: NormsRevenge

How long before U.S. trucks are hi-jacked and the drivers murdered or held for ransom?


7 posted on 07/06/2011 3:13:34 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: NormsRevenge

We don’t know from trucks.


8 posted on 07/06/2011 3:14:32 PM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Americn trucks will likely not travel south of the border due to crime and hijackings.


9 posted on 07/06/2011 3:17:30 PM PDT by umgud
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To: org.whodat

One of my former clients in El Paso, when shipping from a distribution center in Mexico to another point in Mexico, sent trucks out (carrying high value cargo) in convoy of at least three vehicles with Mexican guards, armed with machine guns, to avoid hijacking.

The company was also unable to pay its Mexicans workers more than the government allowed, about $40 a week. Nevertheless the same company was compelled to pay the Mexican government millios per year for being able to conduct its business.


10 posted on 07/06/2011 3:19:08 PM PDT by Seniram US (Quote of the Day: Smile You're An American)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I don’t think there will be many american drivers driving in Mexico.
the issue was we, USA, wouldn’t allow mexican trucks farther into USA than IIRC 50 miles from border.

It was actually part of the orginal NAFTA back in 94 but we have held this off for a long time.
We did suffer since mexico levied tariffs on quite a few of our products going into mexico

It is all a big LIE tho, that mexican trucking companies will be in compliance with our emission and safety laws

so the correct question is
How long before a mexican truck plows into a car and kills everyone?
i say within a year


11 posted on 07/06/2011 3:20:01 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: NormsRevenge

Any truck carrying goods from an American company that fled to Mexico should have to pay that driver at the US wage rate while in the US. Likewise, any truck picking up any load or any trailer in the US should have to pay that driver at the US wage rate while in the US. Additionally, any driver carrying any American goods south of the border that normally were carried by US drivers should have to pay that driver at US wage rates.

This is just a barely concealed effort to use low-wage drivers to take US jobs. If they could have done it by phone from India or China, they would have done that.


12 posted on 07/06/2011 3:20:36 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Seniram US

The word millios in post ten should have been millions. Sorry about that


13 posted on 07/06/2011 3:22:38 PM PDT by Seniram US (Quote of the Day: Smile You're An American)
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To: NormsRevenge

next the NRLB will say they have to unionize.


14 posted on 07/06/2011 3:25:04 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: NormsRevenge

So what does the Texas governor have to say about this?


15 posted on 07/06/2011 3:25:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: NormsRevenge

I used to work near the truck crossing at the Otay Mesa port in San Diego. The roadsides are litterd with plastic bottles full of urine. Get used to it.


16 posted on 07/06/2011 3:25:48 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Seniram US

“The company was also unable to pay its Mexicans workers more than the government allowed, about $40 a week. Nevertheless the same company was compelled to pay the Mexican government millions per year for being able to conduct its business.”

Corruption: this is why Mexico will always be a “little” country.


17 posted on 07/06/2011 3:29:21 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Made In The USA

How well Mexican trucks are inspected and/or Mexican truck drivers qualified to drive a big rig? About as well as Mob hit men are trained in CPR.


18 posted on 07/06/2011 3:30:18 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: NormsRevenge

A few years ago we heard how the chi-coms sent a train of stuff to N. Korea and they kept the train,
I can see it now, American trucks go to Mexico to deliver the goods, the drivers disappear and their trucks bring illegals and marijuana back here with different numbers and drivers.
Coming to a neighborhood near you real soon,.


19 posted on 07/06/2011 3:33:39 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Happy Birthday America)
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To: SatinDoll

I agree unless that person in the White House gives it Texas and California.


20 posted on 07/06/2011 3:34:53 PM PDT by Seniram US (Quote of the Day: Smile You're An American)
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To: NormsRevenge

have the lawmakers actually observed mexican truck driver habits and their rigs? like sudden lane changes, occupying the hammer lane at 55mph (and then using their truck as a weapon against anyone flashing hibeams at them), and inoperative equipment like turn signals and brake lights? And where’s the independently-run random Drug testing program for Mexican drivers like Canadian and American drivers are subjected to? What about compliance with the air-quality regs that are keeping national truckers from driving in California, making them drop their trailers at the Cally border for other “compliant” trucks to take?

Why do I feel like America is a tree that everyone wants the fruit from, but noone wants to water or weed?


21 posted on 07/06/2011 3:38:42 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: forgotten man

I just love the claims of reciprocity that will “allow” American trucks into mexico.

I know a guy running a route between Kuwait City and Mosul and he says you couldn’t pay him enough to drive a truck into Mexico.


22 posted on 07/06/2011 3:39:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Seniram US

California, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, Utah, Nevada, and Oregon - no matter how much of ‘Old Mexico’, or Azatlan, Mexico seizes, it will choke them to death.

Spain couldn’t even deal effectively with raiding Indians in those areas during the early 1800s. Mexico will continue to fail because they can’t admit failure is their fault - not the fault of the U.S.A.


23 posted on 07/06/2011 3:40:58 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Made In The USA

Yes. They’re regularly overweight. Not by a little bit, either. Often they’re loaded up to about 110K.


24 posted on 07/06/2011 3:45:31 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: SatinDoll

The Spanish held Niles Michigan for a few days, I’m surprised they aren’t trying to claim everything between there and Mexico.


25 posted on 07/06/2011 3:52:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Made In The USA
The NAFTA arbitration panel said that the US is allowed to set standards on trucks, whether that be US, Canadian, or Mexican. To include safety standards, enviro stds, driver stds, insurance stds, etc.

If a MexTruck pulls up to the border and doesn't meet the standards, the US doesn't have to let the truck in.

But that is not what happend.

The US said that Mexican trucks, collectively, were not to the same standard as US trucks, collectively.

Thus the US didn't have to allow the MexTrucks in.

The arbitration panel said that was a violation of NAFTA, and awarded Mexico sanctioned retaliation.

26 posted on 07/06/2011 3:58:09 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Made In The USA

They’ve been trying to do this for years. I recall Congressman Brian Bilbray (CA), fought it because Mexican standards for divers, truck maintenance are pathetic.


27 posted on 07/06/2011 3:58:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: forgotten man

There are plastic bottles filled with urine all over the country from OUR truck drivers. People driving mowers on the interstate have been complaining about it for years.


28 posted on 07/06/2011 4:00:11 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Made In The USA

I’ve been in Mexico many times, and I have seen many many terrible trailer truck accidents there. Not sure why, but they are definitely doing something different there than we do.


29 posted on 07/06/2011 4:02:02 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: cripplecreek

Haha! Reminds me of my brother and his liberal roommate. His liberal roommate would fill the shelves with foods like tofu, artificial hamburgers, organic cheese, etc. My brother would fill his shelves with Capn Crunch, pizza, ice cream, etc.

The liberal had the communist view and would always help himself to my poor brother’s stuff and would say “hey, you can help yourself to my food if you want”


30 posted on 07/06/2011 4:08:53 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Terry Mross

My mother carried a portable in her truck when she drove.


31 posted on 07/06/2011 4:10:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: NormsRevenge

Great. Now we can expect American trucking firms to go under as traitorous scum like Wal Mart move their distribution centers to Mexico just so they can use cheap Mexican drivers to haul their loads.


32 posted on 07/06/2011 4:14:06 PM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
How long before U.S. trucks are hi-jacked and the drivers murdered or held for ransom?

How long before unqualified/unlicensed Mexican truck drivers begin causing accidents, mayhem, and death on American roads?

33 posted on 07/06/2011 4:15:45 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I wonder if those Mexican trucks will get hijacked and destroyed?


34 posted on 07/06/2011 4:16:13 PM PDT by RC2
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To: NormsRevenge
and the Teamsters will give their money to Obama

Like chickens voting for Col. Sanders

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35 posted on 07/06/2011 4:25:43 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: MeganC
Now we can expect American trucking firms to go under

They won't go under, they'll go south.
36 posted on 07/06/2011 4:30:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: NormsRevenge

Looks like more deadly truck accidents along the I10 corridor in Southern California. I have seen their version of big rigs. Don’t think I would want to risk my life driving one.

If the California Highway Patrol truck safety stations are busy now with US truck inspections, just wait until these Mexican trucks start to roll. But in this new world, maybe Obama will tell Brown to instruct the CHP inspectors to pass all Mexican trucks. Hey, let the US simply close its eyes to one more threat.


37 posted on 07/06/2011 4:43:34 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks NormsRevenge.
NAFTA, signed in 1994, had called for Mexican trucks to have unrestricted access to highways in border states by 1995 and full access to all U.S. highways by January 2000. Canadian trucks have no limits on where they can go.
At last, pot, cocaine, and heroin prices will come down. Whew.


38 posted on 07/06/2011 5:55:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
At last, pot, cocaine, and heroin prices will come down. Whew.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! The Drug War is over and we lost. Obama,Calderon and the cartels have pulled off a coup de tat while we watched 24 hr non-stop Casey Anthony trial coverage.

39 posted on 07/06/2011 6:13:11 PM PDT by Tornillo
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To: DTogo
How long before unqualified/unlicensed Mexican truck drivers begin causing accidents, mayhem, and death on American roads?

Been waiting for that to happen for years, and it hasn't happened yet.

40 posted on 07/06/2011 7:42:59 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: NormsRevenge

We are. Seriously. Losing our nation.


41 posted on 07/06/2011 7:45:24 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (SOAK THE GLOBALISTS. Globalists destroy US jobs.)
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To: cripplecreek
Four years ago he led a delegation down to Mexico to try and drum up business for the US and I expect he'll quickly get down there and do the same now that some tariffs are lifted.

Off and on over the years he's pushed Congress and the White House to work something out with the trucking - you have to remember, his corridor would have relied on an easy flow of trucks from Mexico.
42 posted on 07/06/2011 8:52:59 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Made In The USA

They buy them in bulk from dealers who can’t resell them due to age and cost of repair to make road worthy. Mexico is why you don’t see many semi truck salvage yards. This should scare the crap out of everyone. At first the gubbamint will cover up the reality but I expect it to be so bad they won’t be able to for long. Another reality is its suposed to open up Mexico for US drivers, ask one of the US drivers that goes into Mexico what good this is. (Think car jacked, in alot of places by the police.) The only requirement of a truck in Mexico is a driver brave enough, btw.


43 posted on 07/06/2011 8:55:39 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: Made In The USA

Quick poll for all. How many would be more worried about the pot smoking driver than the mexican semi truck?

-can’t help it-


44 posted on 07/06/2011 9:03:10 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: RWGinger

“How long before a mexican truck plows into a car and kills everyone?”

That has already been happening in California. Now the rest of the country will get to share in our wealth of diversity.


45 posted on 07/06/2011 9:20:49 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: Seniram US

Both Obama and Bush tried their damnedest to do exactly that.


46 posted on 07/06/2011 9:23:40 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: blueplum

Great post.


47 posted on 07/06/2011 9:24:35 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: Made In The USA

http://wikitravel.org/en/Driving_in_Mexico
This is a cleaned up a## kissing PC accout too,
“If you haven’t driven in Mexico before, and especially if you are not very fluent in Spanish, stick to the toll roads.”
“..travel these sections of road under the speed limit to make sure your car makes it back up north without any suspension or other issues..”
“The Mexican Federal Police (Policia Federal or “Federales”) patrol the roads. Unfortunately, the culture of “mordida” (the term for bribe in the local slang) still prevails, ..do not know English. “
“If you are going uphill and you see oncoming traffic, pull over to the side of the road, well out of the way, and either slow down or stop. If you are going downhill, use caution as the driver may not have read this.”
“Expect checkpoints along most major and some minor roads manned by the Mexican military: mostly with automatic weapons. You will be asked for driver’s licence and insurance information. Your vehicle will be searched, with varying degrees depending upon your attitude, your load, and how bored they are.”
“Many guidebooks and travellers advise against driving at night. This is excellent advice..and the occasional person who has fallen asleep on the warm road..”
“Mexican semi-trucks (”camiones”) drive fast and furiously. They will take as much of the road as they are able; give them as much room as you can.”
“AAA and other travel magazines advise you not to stop for broken-down motorists because this is a common trap set by bandits who are out for your cash.”
- wiki info by Wikitravel user Ikan Kekek. Based on work by Claus Hansen and agusvl@gmail.com,


48 posted on 07/06/2011 9:55:44 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: musicman

Is that the Obama clan?


49 posted on 07/06/2011 9:58:57 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: SunkenCiv
I might get back on Meth if the prices come back down.
50 posted on 07/06/2011 10:02:04 PM PDT by jarofants
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