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Republicans Agree To Revenue Increases In Deficit Talks
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Posted on 07/06/2011 6:09:33 PM PDT by familyop

(Washington, DC) -- Republican congressional leaders are reportedly agreeing to billions of dollars in revenue increases as federal deficit discussions continue.

Republican Senator Jon Kyl announced the move today saying revenue increases don't necessarily mean tax hikes.

On the Senate floor Kyl said, quote, "If the government sells something and gets revenue from it, that's revenue."

He also suggested user fees for government services could provide additional revenue.

He says all the revenue increases Republicans have agreed to amount to between 150 billion and 200 billion dollars.


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1 posted on 07/06/2011 6:09:37 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

Might as well be a Democrat.....


2 posted on 07/06/2011 6:11:30 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: isthisnickcool

Well, if they agree to sell off a few huge tracts of federal land to US private interests that would be ok. Like coal, oil and gas bearing properties.


3 posted on 07/06/2011 6:14:41 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: familyop
"If the government sells something and gets revenue from it, that's revenue."

You mean like, selling land that was bought and paid for by the TAXPAYERS? That kind of revenue?

These people are such shysters they don't even hide it anymore. PATHETIC.

4 posted on 07/06/2011 6:14:45 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: bamahead; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; BufordP; Avoiding_Sulla; Liz; indylindy; ...
He also suggested user fees for government services could provide additional revenue.


5 posted on 07/06/2011 6:16:34 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: familyop

That was ‘unexpected’.


6 posted on 07/06/2011 6:16:41 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: familyop

Read my lips.


7 posted on 07/06/2011 6:16:54 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: familyop

In other words, Senator Kyle proposes charging for services your taxes have supposedly already paid for. Roads, bridges, airspace, parks, waterways, etc etc etc.


8 posted on 07/06/2011 6:16:54 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: familyop

a “fee” is a tax moron!

Ask T-pay how his “fees” where used against him in the last election he ran in.

Can I say it?

We are F%*KED. No one in DC cares any more.


9 posted on 07/06/2011 6:16:54 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: familyop
Republican Senator Jon Kyl announced the move today saying revenue increases don't necessarily mean tax hikes.

Obamy's stash?

"Revenue increases" equals tax increases or new taxes period, the government has no other way to get revenue unless they mean print even more money which is not a revenue increase at all but a debasement of what we already have. However they do it, it's coming out of our pockets. There ain't no free lunch to be had anywhere.

10 posted on 07/06/2011 6:17:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: familyop

There will be HELL TO PAY in 2012.

Boehner is a complete failure.

November 2012 can NOT come soon enough and we need a woman in the whitehouse to CLEAN UP THIS MESS! President Palin, we NEED you.


11 posted on 07/06/2011 6:17:22 PM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and conservatives said nothing...)
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To: familyop

Most of the Pubbies are spineless, gutless Rinos. Time for a third party.


12 posted on 07/06/2011 6:17:40 PM PDT by kenmcg (pROBLEM)
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To: rabscuttle385

User fees for services we already pay for. sweeeet!


13 posted on 07/06/2011 6:17:43 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

US private interests? Think China.


14 posted on 07/06/2011 6:17:50 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: familyop

The Tea Party ,needs to warn these,Filthy Scumbags that they are Gone!!!


15 posted on 07/06/2011 6:17:56 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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It’s all a load of bunk!!!


16 posted on 07/06/2011 6:18:23 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: familyop

That damn Kyl is abandoning ship this time around. What the hell is he doing getting involved in this battle against the commies? He needs to take his scooter and go the hell home now. He’s a quitter.


17 posted on 07/06/2011 6:18:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When the going gets tough, the tough check themselves into "rehab".)
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To: familyop

Well didn’t you just know the GOP would cave. Tammy Faye will come out on TV and sniffle a little into his hanky as he gives us the usual “Thats all we could get” excuse. It never ends.


18 posted on 07/06/2011 6:18:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: unixfox

So the government shouldn’t sell off any of its holdings?


19 posted on 07/06/2011 6:18:46 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: unixfox

So the government shouldn’t sell off any of its holdings?


20 posted on 07/06/2011 6:18:57 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: familyop

I suppose $3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 per year isn’t enough.


21 posted on 07/06/2011 6:20:24 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Mr. Lucky

Come on folks...you knew this was coming. Surely you didn’t actually think that the Republicans were not going to crack in the end.


22 posted on 07/06/2011 6:20:27 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Mr. Lucky

They own 80% of Nevada. We can start there.


23 posted on 07/06/2011 6:20:27 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Is there anyone that Obama won't toss under the bus?)
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To: Reagan69; BufordP; DoughtyOne
and we need a woman in the whitehouse to CLEAN UP THIS MESS

You sound like the conservative version of an O-bot crying that America needs a black man to clean up the mess.

24 posted on 07/06/2011 6:20:31 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Come on folks...you knew this was coming. Surely you didn’t actually think that the Republicans were not going to crack in the end.


25 posted on 07/06/2011 6:20:36 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: familyop; sickoflibs; Liz
Republican Senator Jon Kyl announced the move today saying revenue increases don't necessarily mean tax hikes. On the Senate floor Kyl said, quote, "If the government sells something and gets revenue from it, that's revenue."

Woohoo! Free money!

Probably more assets handed over to foreign interests. When they put the Statue of Liberty on the sales block, will people begin to wake up?

26 posted on 07/06/2011 6:21:02 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: familyop

17:47:32 But if i could talk about something broadly as waste, fraud and abuse…17:47:47 In terms of revenue increases on that side of the ledger (mandatory spending) – i would point out b/n $153b & $200b – actually comes from increased revenues

17:48:06 So when WH says need revenue increases — revenue has been on table.

17:48:16 We’re not talking increasing taxes

17:48:20 But if govt sells something- that’s revenue

17:48:26 If add up revenues agreed to — it’s b/n $150 & $200b

17:48:39 So it’s simply false to say we havent agreed to revenue


27 posted on 07/06/2011 6:22:21 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: familyop

T.E.A.

Taxed Enough Already!


28 posted on 07/06/2011 6:22:40 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: familyop

Great! Sell the Post Office!


29 posted on 07/06/2011 6:22:42 PM PDT by almost done by half
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Well, if they agree to sell off a few huge tracts of federal land

"She's got huge . . . tracts of land"

30 posted on 07/06/2011 6:23:02 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: rabscuttle385

Hot damn, fees to pay for services we’re already taxed for.

I think they’re possessed by the spirit of Jenny Ganholm.


31 posted on 07/06/2011 6:23:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: familyop

TEA PARTY!!!

I USED TO BE A PROUD REPUBLICAN......no longer


32 posted on 07/06/2011 6:24:09 PM PDT by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: familyop
Now, revenue from a 20% tariff increase on ChiCom imports I can agree with.

yitbos

33 posted on 07/06/2011 6:24:43 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: familyop

Courtesy of Tea Party Patriots

34 posted on 07/06/2011 6:25:03 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: familyop

The bastards still don’t get it.


35 posted on 07/06/2011 6:25:49 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: familyop

See how government always grows? No matter what, it grows until it dies, like a shark.


36 posted on 07/06/2011 6:27:56 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: familyop
There is nothing particularly noxious in anything that was reported; then again, the details weren't reported, either. However, to say that the government receives revenue when it sells something is to state the blatantly obvious. If the government decides to auction off part of its fleet of vehicles, the proceeds from that auction are "revenues".

In terms of increasing user fees; that all depends. If the government already charges user-fees for certain services, such as entering a national park, then those fees should be adjusted to the current fair market value of the service being supplied - in precisely the same way that a private business would adjust its prices.

For example, according to the national park service's website, the entrance fees for Yellowstone are as follows:

The entrance fee is $25 for a private, noncommercial vehicle; $20 for each snowmobile or motorcycle; or $12 for each visitor 16 and older entering by foot, bike, ski, etc. This fee provides the visitor with a 7-day entrance permit for both Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks. Remember to keep your admission receipt in order to re-enter the parks. Snowmobile operators must possess a valid motor vehicle operator's license.

$25 for a 7-day pass for my private auto to Yellowstone national park! That is a bargain by any stretch of the imagination. For a rough comparison, if you want to drive your car into the parking lot at Crab Meadow Beach in Huntington, LI, and you're not a resident of Huntington, you'll pay $15 a day just to park your car there. For seven days, that'd cost you $105. And that's just for a measly Long Island beach on the Sound.

That user fee could certainly stand to be increased, and that increase would generate additional revenues for the government.

Finally, that's not the same thing as a tax increase because (a) you're only being asked to pay fair market value for the benefit you're getting - an even swap - and (b) if you don't want to pay it, you don't have to go to the park.

That doesn't sound like such an insane idea in principle.
37 posted on 07/06/2011 6:28:08 PM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: familyop

You know how to increase revenues? CUT TAXES!!!

See GW, Reagan, and the lib icon JFK for PROOF!!!!!!


38 posted on 07/06/2011 6:29:26 PM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: familyop
Let the

begin


39 posted on 07/06/2011 6:29:40 PM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

If they could eliminate one federal agency they would be amazed at the support they could gain.

I would start with the EPA.

Unfortunately we’re dealing with corrupt morons.


40 posted on 07/06/2011 6:29:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: familyop

VOTE WITH VENGEANCE IN 2012!


41 posted on 07/06/2011 6:30:52 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: familyop
The democrats are playing this deficit ceiling fight perfectly. They are strengthening their liberal base while getting their opponents base ticked off at them.

The GOP IS the stupid party. They are being played like a fiddle. AGAIN.

42 posted on 07/06/2011 6:30:54 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: familyop

No, Sen. Kyl, revenue increases ALWAYS mean tax hikes.

If you don’t understand that, you will when we throw your butt out next go’round!


43 posted on 07/06/2011 6:31:57 PM PDT by LUV W (RUN SARAH...R U N!!!)
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To: familyop
Are we gonna sell San Francisco to the chicoms?

Just a FRiendly reminder to the Pubbies. We are watching you too.

5.56mm

44 posted on 07/06/2011 6:36:38 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: unixfox

Shouldn’t ya wait until they announce a deal before you go off half cocked. I don’t recognize this news source do you?


45 posted on 07/06/2011 6:38:06 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Reagan69
November 2012 can NOT come soon enough and we need a woman in the whitehouse to CLEAN UP THIS MESS! President Palin, we NEED you.

A-freakin'-MEN!

46 posted on 07/06/2011 6:39:11 PM PDT by LUV W (RUN SARAH...R U N!!!)
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To: almost done by half

Great! Sell the Post Office!


Sell TSA!


47 posted on 07/06/2011 6:39:41 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: Oceander
Thanks, Oceander....I'm not piling on yet-- as everyone else here is so anxious to do - until I hear details. Every pubbie I hear is firm on tax increases.(not happening) I suspect they're giving Obie a morsel, so he won't look de-pantsed when forced to submit to huge budget cuts and no tax increases.

We'll see, but hold your damn fire, everyone.

48 posted on 07/06/2011 6:42:05 PM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: LUV W
If you [Sen Kyl] don’t understand that, you will when we throw your butt out next go’round!

Sen Kyl has announced his retirement from the Senate. Won't be a next "go round." He's the perfect drone to announce the cave. He's gone. He doesn't have to worry about pissing off the voters.

BTY, Kyl is from Arizona. There have been rumors that the reason Sarah Palin bought a home in AZ is so she can run for his seat.

49 posted on 07/06/2011 6:44:04 PM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: upchuck

Figures. He can screw up and blame it on the other guys.

I want her in the White House not in that den of corruption
called houses of Congress!

Just sayin’.......


50 posted on 07/06/2011 6:45:40 PM PDT by LUV W (RUN SARAH...R U N!!!)
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