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State initiative would abolish death penalty (California referendum to end executions)
KABC-TV ^ | July 07, 2011 | Nannette Miranda

Posted on 07/07/2011 6:43:17 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

A new push is under way to ban the death penalty in California and close death row. Among those supporting the ban is the original author of California's death penalty law. Lawmakers held a first vote Thursday.

The death penalty is popular among Californians, but those who want to get rid of it think the cost might change minds.

California voters could decide next year the fate of more of than 700 notorious criminals currently locked up in San Quentin's death row.

The California State Assembly Committee on Public Safety approved an initiative slated for November 2012 that would abolish the death penalty in California, making the most severe punishment someone could get is life in prison without parole.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calegislation; california; deathpenalty; executions
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To: EricT.
"When was the last time they used it, and how many are in line?"

Hundreds are in line and it hasn't been used in nearly a decade.

Death Row in CA means you're going to die of old age in prison. And, with excellent healthcare.

21 posted on 07/07/2011 8:37:28 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Prop 8 was supported by the public too. California’s laws are too important to be decided upon by the masses, they don’t know what’s best for them. Only illegal aliens and liberal activist judges can decide such things.


22 posted on 07/07/2011 8:40:25 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Zhang Fei

Let’s do one initiative better. If they vote to abolish the death penalty, let’s have an initiative to commute their sentences to “time served” and let them be freed, put back into the public domain.

Why not? It will cost more to keep them in jail for the rest of their lives (the liberals arguments re the cost of death penalty cases and appeals), than it will to release them on parole.

They can get jobs, rape, kill, and pay taxes. That is the liberals’ wet dream. It is from the William Kunstler marxist school of protecting criminals. In his world, this was considered a good thing.


23 posted on 07/07/2011 9:07:37 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: cranked

Here you all go. Prop 187 ( to deny illegals California gov’t. services) was thrown out by a FEDERAL Judge in LA who was appointed, by, of all people, Jimmah Carter. Who says he still isn’t the worst president we’ve ever had, and he’s still breathing. And let’s be fair to California voters. They voted overwhelmingly for this initiative and it wasn’t a State Judge who did the dirty work.

Mariana R. Pfaelzer (born 1926) is a United States federal judge.
Born in Los Angeles, California, Pfaelzer received an A.B. from the University of California, Santa Barbara in 1949 and a J.D. from the UCLA School of Law in 1957. She was in private practice in Los Angeles, California from 1957 to 1978.
On August 8, 1978, Pfaelzer was nominated by President Jimmy Carter to a seat on the United States District Court for the Central District of California vacated by Francis C. Whelan. She was confirmed by the United States Senate on September 22, 1978, and received commission the next day. She was the first female District Judge appointed to that District. She assumed senior status on December 31, 1997.
She is noted for her role in striking down California’s Proposition 187, which would have denied services to illegal aliens.[1] More recently, Judge Pfaelzer handed down a $600 million judgment against Countrywide Financial.[2]


24 posted on 07/07/2011 9:43:01 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Surprisingly enough, Californians are said to favor the death penalty, so this initiative might be defeated at the polls.”

If the Californians did pass it, I wonder if they would be willing to build and fund more prisons to host theses extra criminals for the duration of their lives. Somehow I think not.


25 posted on 07/07/2011 10:29:54 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Come on WOBBLY BOB,
Sandra Day says the people should not criticize judges.

personally I think many deserve lynchings.


26 posted on 07/08/2011 3:31:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Arm yourself and learn how to use it to protect your family)
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To: EricT.

I’m not a big fan of the death penalty, either. If life in prison without parole is cheaper, fine. My biggest problem with the death penalty is not the morality of it, it’s the fact that someone who is innocent might have to trust their life to a lawyer that can’t be trusted with 25 cents....
As long as the guilty are taken out of circulation, I’m not complaining, one way or the other.


27 posted on 07/08/2011 6:55:29 AM PDT by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Mamas don't let your cowboys grow up to be babies..)
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To: Zhang Fei

The death penalty is an enigma of human existence. On one side for me is a belief that society cannot assure life for any person if it rules anyone can kill another person without their own life being in jeopardy. Even a person in military combat recognizes this trade off when they play in the war game. On the other hand a society that will put a person to death in a mistaken/wrong decision of guilt is not a just society. So there comes a choice of putting a maximum penalty towards preventing murder or establishing an error proof justice system towards preventing wrong decisions. Both choices are possible but subject to human errors.


28 posted on 07/08/2011 8:02:12 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Zhang Fei

This happened when Jerry Brown was gov. before. That is why Charlie Manson is still alive.


29 posted on 07/08/2011 10:58:18 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic (The answer to 1984 is 1776!)
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To: Zhang Fei
Chief Justice Rose Bird was a wake up call to a bunch of voters in the 80’s. She was the epitome of liberal “brilliance” and no criminal was so despicable that if it was a choice of killing them or letting them go, she would choose to let them go.
30 posted on 07/08/2011 12:52:03 PM PDT by techcor (I hope Obama succeeds, in being a one term president.)
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To: Zhang Fei
AltHeadline: Neutered California Eyes Going Toothless
31 posted on 07/08/2011 2:55:32 PM PDT by HKMk23 (YHVH NEVER PLAYS DEFENSE! WHICH MEANS; IF YOU'RE ON DEFENSE, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Well, its not like they ever use it.


32 posted on 07/08/2011 4:29:07 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Mariner
Death Row in CA means you're going to die of old age in prison. And, with excellent healthcare.

I understand it also means you get your own cell.

33 posted on 07/08/2011 6:46:31 PM PDT by EricT. (Is a country that would re-elect Barrack Hussein Obama really worth saving?)
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