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If Perry does mount presidential run, we'll see if his walk matches his talk
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal ^ | July 10, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 07/10/2011 3:47:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

If Rick Perry does mount a successful bid for the U.S. presidency, it will be interesting to see whether he can translate his past and present criticisms of the federal government into concrete changes to the sprawling bureaucracy.

Perry has yet to say he will or won’t toss his hat into the Republican race for the right to square off against President Barack Obama in 2012. He is, however, making all the moves of a potential candidate testing the waters. Insiders are mixed on the odds. Some say he’s definitely in; others put the odds at 50-50.

But the mere possibility the longest-serving Texas governor will join a party battle featuring hopefuls who conservatives and the tea party are not particularly excited about has pundits of all stripes from coast to coast offering their views of how a Perry candidacy would play out.

Perry, who’s never lost an election, has a good chance of rising quickly to the frontrunner position against Mitt Romney, Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, Tim Pawlenty, Newt Gingrich and Jon Huntsman. His unabashed conservative message puts him at or beyond Bachman’s position on the far right end of the political spectrum. His executive experience compares well to Romney, Pawlenty and Huntsman.

And, like him or not, there’s little denying Perry knows how to campaign, raise money and deliver rousing speeches.

While polls show Obama in danger of losing to a generic Republican candidate — and the prevailing wisdom in the punditry sphere is the 2012 race is the GOP’s to lose, there is a real question whether a candidate who energizes the conservative base can do so without having his or her far-right stances turn off center-right independents, pushing them into Obama’s column.

But should Perry manage to keep his perfect election record intact and find himself in the White House, we’ll find out whether his Washington walk matches his Texas talk.

Assuming the GOP holds its House majority and gains control of the Senate, we can imagine Perry’s to-do list starting with the repeal of Obamacare and ending with a full makeover of the Environmental Protection Agency. In between, he’d likely put a host of agencies to work shredding scores of regulations he’s railed against. He’d also likely push Congress to end or redesign a variety of federal programs he views as overreaches in violation of state rights laid out in the Tenth Amendment.

Perry’s real test would be border security. He’s decried the federal government’s failure to secure the border, but the problem has stymied presidents from both parties for decades. Perry might be able the change that, but the odds are he’d merely find himself transformed from the critic to the criticized.

While some pundits question whether voters will back another Texas governor so soon after George W. Bush’s divisive two terms at the helm, others see Perry as a different sort of conservative. Unlike “compassionate conservative” Bush, some see Perry as more like Ronald Reagan.

But unlike the easy-going, grandfatherly Gipper, Perry is more like the Texas A&M yell leader he once was.

“Our loudest opponents on the left are never going to like us, so let’s stop trying to curry favor with them,” he said in a recent speech.

We’ve agreed with Perry, and we’ve disagreed with him. He’s certainly not perfect, but no candidate is. But if sending Perry to Washington would balance the budget, address the debt and rein in over-regulation, it would be a welcome change from the current state of affairs.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 2012; amnesty; conservative; democrat; economy; energymandate; gardasil; gorescampaignmanager; openborders; perry; perry4gardasil; perry4openborders; perrybotshere; rickperry; rinoalert; rinoperry; ttc
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1 posted on 07/10/2011 3:47:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Never underestimate the abilities and righteous motivations of at least one million Americans to be far better presidents than the filthy, anti-american, degenerate pig we currently have in the WH. The Rats are masters at dividing opposition to the kenyan marxist and splitting the vote will ensure he wins again. You will not find the “perfect” candidate but you can easily find a million potential candidates who would do well for America compared to 4 more years of the destroyer of freedom and the future for our kids.


2 posted on 07/10/2011 4:08:34 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Neoliberalnot

AMEN!


3 posted on 07/10/2011 4:10:03 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Neoliberalnot

TURN OUT will be key.


4 posted on 07/10/2011 4:10:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Never underestimate the abilities and righteous motivations of at least one million Americans to be far better presidents than the filthy, anti-american, degenerate pig we currently have in the WH. The Rats are masters at dividing opposition to the kenyan marxist and splitting the vote will ensure he wins again. You will not find the “perfect” candidate but you can easily find a million potential candidates who would do well for America compared to 4 more years of the destroyer of freedom and the future for our kids.


5 posted on 07/10/2011 4:11:04 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Neoliberalnot

You can say that again.


6 posted on 07/10/2011 4:11:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; af_vet_rr; hocndoc; stevie_d_64
Posting articles from the Lubbock paper lauding your boy Rick at 5:47 a.m. on Sunday?

CW, there is no way you are not a campaign professional, carpeting FR with your guy's prolefeed at oh-dark-thirty in the morning.

7 posted on 07/10/2011 4:14:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
This editorial about Gov. Rick Perry and his run in the GOP primary and possible presidency, is balanced, unlike this contemptuous OpEd slap at Americans who would vote for Perry (that is currently making the MSM rounds).

America has a few loose screws

8 posted on 07/10/2011 4:24:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Good Morning, CW.

See you are pitching your favorite RINO, on FR.

Has he confronting either issue yet?
RINO Perry's intent was to
(1) reward his political allies inc. Chief of Staff and his Merck employer and
(2) to essentially shove an untested drug into the bodies of
his constituents’ pre-pubescent girls. Girls. So where was his
due diligence? Where was the informed consent?
Is there an iota of evidence that he did really care? Most importantly,
what would he do on a national level, if given the power.

Many on this forum are still waiting to hear Gov. Perry
begin to finally address this issue.

9 posted on 07/10/2011 4:25:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: lentulusgracchus
And btw. I am not a professional anything.

I'm always an early poster (I'm an early riser). Any more personal questions?

This was my first post today:

Somehow, the Unemployed Became Invisible (Yawn: powerless, low-skill, non-union "lame club")

10 posted on 07/10/2011 4:28:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Diogenesis; All
I'm not a mind reader but it strikes me that Gov. Rick Perry truly believed the HPV vaccine would have helped a lot of Texans who otherwise would not have gotten this protection against cervical cancer (it was to help with 3 strains of the human papilloma virus HPV).

Rick Perry's wife Anita Perry was a nurse for many years and still is involved in health care as First Lady of Texas, so I imagine health care is something this governor is more aware of than maybe your "average" governor and understood this to be a vaccine that would combat cervical cancer and cut heath care costs.

Then too Rick Perry grew up hard scrabble with little luxury as many have, yet vaccines traditionally have been made available to all.

Instead of applying the worst motives to Rick Perry, perhaps his critics could consider that his motives were good ones.

Another FReeper had some thoughts on this issue.

However, there are some here on FR who prefer to apply the worst motives to Rick Perry.

The most "vocal" either won't name a candidate they would support; say they would vote for Huntsman or Romney over Perry; say they would rather Obama stay in the White House than vote for Rick Perry.

The HPV vaccine was always Opt-Out. And according to this report had been changed to Opt-In, before being dropped entirely.

90 days after his EO, Gov. Rick Perry let stand legislation undoing the EO.

..Ann Hettinger, Concerned Women for America's state director of Texas, was instrumental in convincing Perry to change his proposal to an opt-in provision. When asked if Perry's original plans for the HPV vaccine would be an issue if he were to run for president, [Penny] Nance replied, “It would've been an issue IF HE HAD NOT FIXED IT.”

11 posted on 07/10/2011 4:29:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There is minimal "protection".

GARDASIL-GATE:

RINO Perry's
Chief of Staff worked for Merck
and, at the time, the Merck company was desperate for cash.
Solution: MANDATE GARDASIL BY EXECUTIVE ORDER.

RINO Perry rejected opponents' and Conservatives' calls to reverse
his mandate

There are >40 Types of HPV, 15 Types linked to cervical cancer.
Gardasil works against 4 Types and
does not grant full immunity to those 4 Types of HPV.
Gardasil offers no protection against the other
11 strains of HPV that have been linked to cervical cancer.

Sexually promiscuous women (not chaste girls)
require three shots over six months

CDC: 44% of teenagers received the HPV vaccine
but only 27% of them received all three requisite doses.
There is no evidence one does even works.

CDC: As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil
were distributed in the US. VAERS received a total
of 18,727 reports of adverse events; 68 deaths
.

12 posted on 07/10/2011 4:42:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why did the RINO Perry write an Executive Order
for chaste girls to be given a presciption for
promiscuous women?

High risk genital papillomavirus infections are not spread vertically
Dillner J.1, *, 2; Andersson-Ellström A.3; Hagmar B.4; Schiller J.5
Reviews in Medical Virology, Volume 9, Number 1, March 1999 , pp. 23-29(7)
Abstract: ... The conclusions arrived at can be summarised as:
(1) There is overwhelming epidemiological evidence that
the only quantitatively important mode of transmission of infection
with oncogenic genital HPV types is sexual.

(2) There is also evidence that benign genital HPV types
can be transmitted sexually, but the epidemiological data
on the benign virus types are less extensive and less clear.
(3) Perinatal HPV transmission is unequivocally demonstrated
only for the rare disease juvenile respiratory papillomatosis.


13 posted on 07/10/2011 4:44:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry in or Perry out, who knows but based upon the following it will be interesting to see the reactions of some around here should Perry get in and win the nomination.
14 posted on 07/10/2011 4:44:53 AM PDT by deport
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To: Diogenesis
If all you've got against Perry is Gardasil and the Trans Texas Corridor, it's way past time to give it a rest. Both were mistakes. Neither mistake went anywhere. No harm no foul. Besides, the Gardasil “mandate” was tempered with an opt out.

Perry has been Governor for more than a decade. If Gardasil and the TTC are the only significant flaws in his record suggesting that he may not be sufficiently conservative, then he's as good as we're ever going to get and maybe better than we've ever had before. Even Reagan had his apostasies. He signed California's liberal abortion law, for example.

We need someone who rejects the progressive idea that government can perform miracles. Anyone who ever fell for the global warming scam or the “universal health care” delusion is a nonstarter because they don't have enough resistance to that idea. But if we turn up our nose at anyone who was ever involved in any government overreach we'll be caught in a Catch 22 — Only successful politicians can be serious presidential candidates but no successful politician can be pure enough to earn our support.

Perry isn't my beau ideal of a presidential candidate. He does however meet my minimum requirements which is more than I can say for anyone currently in the field. He'll do, Romney, Huntsman and Pawlenty won't. Bachmann, Cain and Santorum can't overcome Romney's head start and funding advantage. Perry may very well be conservatives’ only acceptable option.

Harping on the minor flaws in his record is counterproductive. Remember the timeless wisdom of the ancient enemy, LBJ — “Don't piss in the soup we all have to eat.”

15 posted on 07/10/2011 5:02:08 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
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To: fluffdaddy

Then let him simply address the issues
and demonstrate he is no longer a RINO (confer post #9).


16 posted on 07/10/2011 5:06:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: fluffdaddy
I'd like to address the "Trans Texas Corridor" and invite other comments.

When we were in Maryland it took the election of a lot of new people, along with a Republican governor to get the ICC (Inter County Connector) finished and a sealed deal. It's construction should be about complete.

For close to 50 years ENVIRONMENTALISTS fought tooth and nail and hammer and sickle but in the end they lost.

Below Gov. Perry and Roger Hedgecock discuss Texas' unsecured international border and the TTC "road."

June 29, 2011: Roger Hedgecock interview with Rick Perry (starts 1/2 way into audio file)

17 posted on 07/10/2011 5:20:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: deport
This guy in Montana has some thoughts about Rick Perry too deport.

July 2, 2011: Legal gamesmanship threatens our energy future (Montana looks to Rick Perry's TX model) “Texas Gov. Rick Perry is able to boast about job growth under his watch, noting that over 265,000 jobs, or nearly 37 percent of the jobs created nationwide since the summer of 2009, have been created in the Lone Star state.

He credits this growth to a few simple conditions: low taxes, a regulatory climate that is fair and predictable, and a legal system that limits frivolous lawsuits. According to the Wall Street Journal, nearly one-fourth of the 70 companies that left California this year relocated to Texas.

When new or relocating companies and investors survey the landscape and consider Montana, what do they see? Well, when it comes to natural-resource development, the landscape looks risky. ….”

18 posted on 07/10/2011 5:21:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“You can say that again.”

You are good, Cincinatus’ Wife! LOL!


19 posted on 07/10/2011 5:33:59 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Diogenesis

My point was that your “issues” have been addressed with massive redundancy and were never substantial to begin with. Unless you have some fresh ground for suggesting that Perry is not an acceptable conservative candidate, it’s past time to sit down and hold your peace. When your argument has degenerated into a chant of “RINO, RINO, RINO,” it’s time to find another hobby.


20 posted on 07/10/2011 5:35:41 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
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To: lentulusgracchus

We already know that Obama’s walk is way short of his talk. No way Perry could be half as bad.


21 posted on 07/10/2011 5:41:40 AM PDT by csmusaret (If abortion is a choice, let the fetus decide.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Unfortunately, Perry talks a good game but that’s about it. For example: Before election, “I will seal the border.” Two weeks after election, “It ain’t gonna happen.” and on and on.


22 posted on 07/10/2011 5:45:42 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If he was in any other state than Texas would he still have supporters behind him?

I’m just thinking that too many people are visualizing voter support for a candidate from Texas, only Texas.

Is it because to Americans Texas is the biggest state thus portraying strength?

I think there is another state even bigger.


23 posted on 07/10/2011 5:52:41 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (2012, NO MORE LIES!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Which side of what issue is Perry on today, hop!e they come up with a good compute program to trace the flip flops.


24 posted on 07/10/2011 6:02:40 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Eye of Unk

25 posted on 07/10/2011 6:03:02 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Diogenesis
From your April 2007 NYT LINK [that YOU HAVE TITLED -- GARDASIL-GATE: "RINO Perry's Chief of Staff worked for Merck and, at the time, the Merck company was desperate for cash"

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...."The vaccine, Gardasil, is manufactured by Merck, which was represented in Austin by the lobbyist Mike Toomey, who was chief of staff for Mr. Perry from 2002 to 2004." [NOTE: Three years earlier]

The governor’s office denied any connection between the governor’s proposal and Mr. Toomey. A Merck spokesman declined to comment on the company’s lobbying.

But Merck, which had begun a campaign for Gardasil in legislatures around the country, reacted to growing opposition to proposed vaccine mandates by announcing in late February that it was dropping its legislative campaign...."

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I saw nothing about Merck "desperate for cash" -- so I did some checking for that time in early 2007, when you say a political pac for Rick Perry received $6000:

Merck in $2.3 billion tax settlement with IRS -- In this article the business reporter concludes that Merck's reported cash flow seems more than adequate.

26 posted on 07/10/2011 6:39:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: org.whodat
Which side of what issue is Perry on today, hop!e they come up with a good compute program to trace the flip flops.

That's a broad swipe. Care to make a charge?

27 posted on 07/10/2011 6:40:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Eye of Unk
Yep another state is bigger in terms of total land mass but in many other ways it is much smaller such as: private land ownership, population, etc.


28 posted on 07/10/2011 6:40:40 AM PDT by deport
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To: Eye of Unk

I’m trying to understand you.

Are you saying people might vote for Rick Perry because he comes from a state with a lot of square miles?


29 posted on 07/10/2011 6:41:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm not a mind reader but it strikes me that Gov. Rick Perry truly believed the HPV vaccine would have helped a lot of Texans

Those "lot of Texans" were mainly his ex-Chief of Staff Mike Toomey who was then pharmacutical company Merck's Texas' lobbier, his then Chief of Staff Dianne Delisi's mother-in-law who worked for Merck's state advocacy group, and himself with kickbacks. Do you not see a bit of conflict of interest there? Merck a chief of staff and a chief of staff's MIL doesn't raise red flags with you?

30 posted on 07/10/2011 6:43:15 AM PDT by bgill
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To: deport

If Perry were to beat out the other GOPs to get the nomination, this Texan might have to go third party. I’m sick of holding my nose when casting a GOP vote.


31 posted on 07/10/2011 6:45:56 AM PDT by bgill
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To: fluffdaddy

If you’ve been reading posts by Texans, Gardasil and the Corridor are NOT the only two problems with Perry. I’m not going to waste my time listing them AGAIN because you obviously don’t want to listen. A small start would be doing a search yourself for his version of the DREAM Act, illegals, Al Gore, and using tax dollars for his own personal use.


32 posted on 07/10/2011 6:51:12 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

I’m sick of holding my nose when casting a GOP vote.


I can’t disagree but in the long run it’s damn hard to get a candidate much right of center elected nationally. I have one objective in my cast of a vote and that is to eliminate the current occupant of the WH. I only hope that I can vote for the GOP nominee as that is our only shot, imo. I hope that Romney isn’t that shot as I’m not sure that I can pull that lever.


33 posted on 07/10/2011 6:56:47 AM PDT by deport
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To: bgill

Remember:

Bush I’s “thousand points of light”
Bush II’s “compassionate conservatism”

Just think of perry as being the “Progressive Conservative” and pull that lever.


34 posted on 07/10/2011 7:01:29 AM PDT by farmguy
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To: deport

Had no idea the Feds owned that much of Alaska. Very informative. Thanks deport.


35 posted on 07/10/2011 7:07:06 AM PDT by Texan
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To: bgill
..... Do you not see a bit of conflict of interest there? Merck a chief of staff and a chief of staff's MIL doesn't raise red flags with you?

In the grand scheme of things you should research donations made to political action committees (PACs) and direct contributions that companies like Merck make to ALL politicians. That's what lobbyists do. They prowl the halls of government buildings across the country. (Where do you think Barack Obama's $1Billion is coming from, the poor?)

Lobbyists start out in government--where they build up their rolodex. Then they move on to represent businesses who know it is required that they come hat in hand to pay tribute to the legislators who will be passing or not passing legislation that will be levying taxes and regulations upon them.

It is the nature of the beast -- why we need to have elected officials spend less time on the job and go home to work a real job. The Texas legislature meets every 2 years for 140 days (additional days if special sessions are called).

Rick Perry's platform in brief:

1. Don't spend all the money.

2. Have fair and predictable tax and regulatory policy.

3. A legal system that doesn't allow for over suing (lawsuit abuse) and make loser pay (no more jackpot justice).

With that as Rick Perry's platform and political ideology, I conclude that Merck contributed to Rick Perry's PAC to have less government entanglement in their business, which would do considerably more for their bottom line than what you are suggesting.

36 posted on 07/10/2011 7:17:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Texan

AK is small in population but large in acreage. They have something around 710,000 population per the 2010 Census which is just about the number used for Congressional redistricting.


37 posted on 07/10/2011 7:35:03 AM PDT by deport
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; bgill
bgill: ..... Do you not see a bit of conflict of interest there?
Merck a chief of staff and a chief of staff's MIL doesn't raise red flags with you?

No, she does not.

Nor does she care about putting dangerous materials
into children not at risk, as long as there were profits
for BigPharma and her RINO Perry and others who knew
a priori about the upcoming MANDATE by RINO Executive Order.

38 posted on 07/10/2011 7:38:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Merck’s political campaign contribution won’t be an issue nationally if Perry becomes the nominee. Hell the $6000 isn’t enough to get in the hello/handshake line at a fundraiser. Texas uses/allows these type donations for campaigns. This maybe bad or good but that is the way it’s done. If you don’t give a five figure contribution to the campaign you aren’t even in the who’s that line.


39 posted on 07/10/2011 7:41:41 AM PDT by deport
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To: bgill
If you've been following the conversation at all either you know full well that the grab bag of complaints you mention are all even more insubstantial than the Gardasil and TTC matters or you're seriously delusional. Perry's points of vulnerability were thoroughly explored in last year's campaign and there's very little there there. You are harping on trivia and it's long past time to stop.

A limited government conservative is going to have some problems with anybody who ever had substantial responsibility for running a government. Governors have to govern; they have to run a modern, bloated state that is deeply involved in private matters as it runs schools, finances health care, constructs infrastructure, etc., ad infinitum.

That's why conservative and libertarian voters tend to fall in love with obscure Congressmen (and women) every presidential election year. Consider John Ashbrooke, Phil Crane, Duncan Hunter, Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann, just to name a few. A member of Congress can snipe from the sidelines and never get too soiled by close association with the monster they are part of. Governors and Presidents don't have that luxury.

But an ideologically appealing Congressman is never going to win a GOP nomination, let alone a national election. Anyone who has been a Governor will have some scars, but those are the price of admission to the presidential game. An unmarked candidate is an unserious candidate, so you had best learn to live with the scars.

Perry has remarkably few. There is no rational conservative case to be made for the proposition that he's not an acceptable presidential candidate. His most recent book makes his ideological orientation very clear and nothing in his record is so inconsistent with that orientation as to cast real doubt on his conservative credentials.

People who want to brand him as a “RINO” are doing us all a disservice, usually because they want to promote some candidate who hasn't got the proverbial snowball's chance or some potential candidate who may very well never run. That's just juvenile and stupid.

Unless Sarah Palin chooses to run, Rick Perry is going to be the only game in town for conservatives. That's the reality we all have to deal with. Picking nits just isn't productive.

40 posted on 07/10/2011 7:44:02 AM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
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To: bgill
DREAM Act, illegals, Al Gore, and using tax dollars for his own personal use.

DREAM ACT -- I guess you'll have to take on the entire Texas Senate on that one:

Gov. Perry and The Texas Dream Act

[snip]

It’s important to point out that there is a huge difference in the Texas Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO “no” votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful.

These are a few things you need to know about the [2001] Texas Dream Act. The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation. These students are given no special treatment in getting into Texas colleges and universities. They must get in on their own merit. They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.

[snip]

Most of us agree that border control MUST be dealt with first. The problem with all other efforts on this issue in the past is that the borders were not sealed. If there is anyone who we can trust to do that it is Gov. Perry (if he decides to run for President). He knows what goes on down at the border. He has gone there many times. He knows what needs to be done. There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach.

[snip]

AL GORE -- (Tipper stuck around longer than most -- but then she left too) -- Rick Perry, like Ronald Reagan, Phil Gramm, along with many others, switched to the GOP. Perry was Al Gore's TX campaign manager in the 1988 Democratic Party presidential primary that was won by Michael Dukakis. Perry was a conservative democrat and moved to the GOP in 1989 and ran against Jim Hightower for the Agriculture Commission and won.

Rick Perry: Al Gore's gone to Hell

Perry does not believe there is valid scientific proof of anthropogenic global warming. He has said several times that there is no scientific consensus on the issue.

On September 7, 2007 Perry gave a speech to California Republicans. He said, "Virtually every day another scientist leaves the global warming bandwagon. ... But you won't read about that in the press because they have already invested in one side of the story."

ILLEGALS and spending tax dollars for personal use....

You'll have to be more specific bgill. Just throwing stuff out there but not elaborating because you're just so tired isn't going to cut it.

I'm all ears.

41 posted on 07/10/2011 7:44:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: fluffdaddy

“If all you’ve got against Perry is Gardasil and the Trans Texas Corridor, it’s way past time to give it a rest. Both were mistakes. Neither mistake went anywhere. No harm no foul. Besides, the Gardasil “mandate” was tempered with an opt out.”

I thought I could get through this one by lurking, but no such luck. So I figure I’ll join in. The problem with the Gardasil and the TTC is we are TOTALLY AT A LOSS to understand why he pushed this stuff SO HARD and practically had to be put on a rack to back off (and for the record, for most people to have to opt-out for Gardasil required that they purger themselves). The only thing that is common between the two is the revolving door where his people seem to migrate to the company that will make the big bucks (off the backs of the Texas taxpayers) and then migrate back to work for him. For Gardasil that was pointed out with links, for TTC, it was his now-dead (thankfully) transportation secretary that had the Cintra-connection.

But to answer your question, there are other things that bother us, they just don’t perplex us as much, since they’re not HAIR-BRIANED, but only RINO-esque. This includes, other than whining to the feds, not doing a damn thing about illegal immigration, especially during this last session when he could have gotten anything through our 2/3’s Republican legislature if he REALLY wanted to. Instead he had his cronies lock up stuff, so he didn’t have to sign or veto. Same for education and pension reforms. There are a number of REPUBLICAN governors that have been in office for only a short time that are making Perry look like a joke.

Even so, I still prefer him over Romney and about half of the field and will vote for him in November, if I have to.


42 posted on 07/10/2011 7:56:10 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Walk = Talk: Senator Bourke Hickenlooper, R-IA, and Jesse Helms, R-NC, who else?


43 posted on 07/10/2011 7:58:31 AM PDT by Theodore R. (98)
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To: Eye of Unk

“I’m just thinking that too many people are visualizing voter support for a candidate from Texas, only Texas.”

A good point. Unless Perry had come in to Texas with an Obama-like drive to wreck the state, it would have been almost impossible to damage us. We are making out like bandits due to high oil prices and never having a real estate bubble (thanks to our State Constitution that long predates Perry). We also have a heck of a lot of Republicans in positions of power, and even many of the Dems actually CARE about the state (unlike DC). Governor Bush did fine here; Ann Richards, a Democrat, did great here. This is a tough state to mess up these days.

Bottom line, if you vote Perry, you get PERRY - you will NOT get Texas - so you should be looking at the PERSON, not the state.


44 posted on 07/10/2011 8:02:33 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Just out of curiosity, did Merck try this Gardasil stunt in any other state - or was Perry the only one to take the bait?

I can’t seem to find any other states that mandate or attempted to mandate it, not even California or other left-wing states.


45 posted on 07/10/2011 8:04:45 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: BobL

Very eloquently said, and quite true.

The web of bad judgments are suspect, especially
so when they have not be directly addressed.

Given that they also arose in a ROVE-created puppet,
created from a Democrat taken from the DNC,
further suggests they should be addressed to remove
the burqa-of-RINOship over Perry.


46 posted on 07/10/2011 8:05:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: deport

“I can’t disagree but in the long run it’s damn hard to get a candidate much right of center elected nationally. “

It’s even harder if you don’t try...and when was the last time we tried since 1984?


47 posted on 07/10/2011 8:06:21 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The problem with a Dream Act, in any form, is that it becomes an incentive for people south of the border to come here. Maybe not a huge incentive, but an incentive, added on to many incentives.

We need to delete these incentives if we don’t want people coming here illegally - that simple.


48 posted on 07/10/2011 8:11:03 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I know that Perry disappoints you sweetheart, but Ross Perot is not running. Ross may be on the wrong side of the lawn for all I know.


49 posted on 07/10/2011 8:13:19 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: BobL
deport (pushing for RINO):
"I can’t disagree but in the long run it’s damn hard
to get a candidate much right of center elected nationally.“



50 posted on 07/10/2011 8:13:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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