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If Perry does mount presidential run, we'll see if his walk matches his talk
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal ^ | July 10, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 07/10/2011 3:47:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Real cute af_vet-rr. I hope you didn't spend otherwise productive time on that "oh so thoughtful" post.

Something else to think about. Perry has a proven track record of supporting illegal immigrants through his speeches and actions, whether it's the Texas DREAM Act, talking of open borders, praising LULAC, pushing for a guest worker program, bashing Congress for not supporting illegal immigrants being allowed to legally work her, etc. He's got 10 years of this stuff on his track record, and it's available through his web site.

While I still question how much he supports illegal immigrants because of his donors who benefit from them, I have no doubt in my mind that when Hispanics outside of Texas start hearing about the last 10 years of Perry's actions, that they might just consider Perry.

If Perry does what George W. Bush and John McCain couldn't, and that is firmly get the Hispanic vote for the GOP, then Obama will be a one-termer and it will not even be close. And if Perry wins in 2012 and gets the guest worker program that he's wanted for years, he's cruising to victory in 2016. If the GOP gets the Hispanic vote, the Democrats are finished. Rick Perry is just the man to do it.
121 posted on 07/10/2011 3:01:49 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

I hear you. It really seems that Perry is convinced that he’s bullet-proof. Considering that Obama even wants him to run (aka, that death penalty thing this week), there must be some weaknesses in his armor.


122 posted on 07/10/2011 3:06:12 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: af_vet_rr

“I don’t know that Perry wanted another Jimmy Carter. Texas was still a Democratic state when Perry entered politics, and Perry has always been a climber and an opportunist. “

On this it really doesn’t matter what Perry wanted...if Al Gore had won in 1988, with the huge Democrat majorities, this whole Obama socialism would be 20 years further down the road. I got to live out much of my adult life in a still relatively free country...but not if Perry had gotten his way.


123 posted on 07/10/2011 3:08:39 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: calcowgirl

I’m not planning to support Slick Perry.


124 posted on 07/10/2011 3:30:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (July 23, 2017 - This is Ellis Wyatt. I am on strike.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; hedgetrimmer
I don’t understand your problem with a toll road? I pay tolls in Houston. I get where I want to go. I pay tolls in other states to get where I want to go. How do you expect these new roads to get built? With Obama’s stash?

I find it interesting that you chose to pick out one comment of my post, stating only that Perry didn't mention the issue of tollroads, to question why I had a problem with them while at the same time ignoring the other comments and the direct question to you. Regardless, here goes:

Roads can get built the way they always have - floating bonds, tax money, etc. T This push for toll-roads, run by foreign interests, is a relatively new phenomena. The "public private partnerships" being used are nothing more than state sanctioned monopolies, often referred to as soft fascism. Governors have gone along with these schemes because they are offered big cash advances that help erase their deficits and cover up fiscal mismanagement. How many highways have been converted to toll-roads in the past decade? Highways that were already paid for by taxpayer money; highways that were supposed to be maintained and expanded using additional "gas taxes" imposed on the citizens. Instead, those existing dollars have been squandered on other government programs leaving the well dry for transportation. In essence, toll roads and PPPs are being used to raid state assets, increase the size of government, and enrich foreign interests like Cintra and McQuarie. If you have no problem with that, so be it. But it cannot be ignored.

125 posted on 07/10/2011 3:41:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So because we’re near Mexico we’re not allowed to build road infrastructure! Really!

Forgive me. I had thought you wanted comments on Perry's interview and to carry on an adult-like conversation.

I can see by dishonesty of the above comment that you had no such intention.

I'll leave you to spin your propaganda, alone.

126 posted on 07/10/2011 3:44:05 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Houston’s Port ranks with New York and Los Angeles ports.

I suggest you do a bit more research on that. Houston does not come near the ranks of L.A. ports (about 12 million container capacity) or N.Y. (about 5 million capacity). Houston (less than 2 million) is closer to that of Savannah or Charleston or Oakland, but smaller.

They do want to expand to take advantage of the Panama Canal expansion so Walmart can import even more cheaply. But that is some years away.

127 posted on 07/10/2011 3:49:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: calcowgirl
L.A. ports (about 12 million container capacity)

Oops - typo. That was supposed to be 15 million.

128 posted on 07/10/2011 3:50:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I just pinged you because of the TTC discussion on Hedgecock’s radio interview with Perry. The interview was a whole new spin, I think.


129 posted on 07/10/2011 3:51:54 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: calcowgirl

The Port of Houston

The Port of Houston is a 25-mile-long complex of diversified public and private facilities located just a few hours’ sailing time from the Gulf of Mexico. The port is ranked first in the United States in foreign waterborne tonnage (14 consecutive years); first in U.S. imports (19 consecutive years); second in U.S. export tonnage and second in the U.S. in total tonnage (19 consecutive years).

The Port of Houston is made up of the Port of Houston Authority and the 150-plus private industrial companies along the Houston Ship Channel. All together, the port authority and its neighbors along the ship channel are a large and vibrant component of the regional economy.

More than 220 million tons of cargo moved through the Port of Houston in 2009. More than 7,700 vessel calls were recorded at the Port of Houston during the year 2009. The Houston Pilots navigate each vessel through the Houston Ship Channel.

The Port of Houston has an impressive listing of firsts, from unloading the world’s first container ship to becoming the country’s first port to receive ISO 14001 compliance.

The Houston Ship Channel

The Houston Ship Channel has been a catalyst for growth in Harris County since the first journey of a steamship up Buffalo Bayou in 1837. The ship channel plays a critical role in today’s community as well. It generates jobs and opportunities that allow businesses to flourish.

A 2007 study by Martin Associates says ship channel-related businesses contribute to more than 785,000 jobs throughout Texas while generating nearly $118 billion of statewide economic impact. Additionally, more than $3.7 billion in state and local tax revenues are generated by business activities related to the port. It is projected that the Port of Houston will continue to be an important factor as north-south trade expands.

2008 Port of Houston Ranking:

• 1st in the U.S. in foreign tonnage for 13 consecutive years;
• 1st in imports for 18 consecutive years and
• 2nd in U.S. in total tonnage for 18 consecutive years;
• 7th largest U.S. Container port

http://www.portofhouston.com/geninfo/overview1.html


130 posted on 07/11/2011 2:17:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: calcowgirl

May 2, 2011 - The Best Cities For Jobs

..........”Once again the best places for jobs tended to be smaller communities where incremental improvements can have a relatively large impact. Eighteen of the top 20 cities on our list were either small (under 150,000 nonfarm jobs) or mid-sized areas (less than 450,000 jobs).

But no place displayed more vibrancy than Texas. The Lone Star State dominated the three size categories, with the No. 1 mid-sized city, El Paso (No. 3 overall, up 22 places from last year) and No.1 large metropolitan area Austin (No. 6 overall), joining Killeen-Temple-Fort Hood (the No. 1 small city) atop their respective lists.

Texas also produced three other of the top 10 smallest regions, including energy-dominated No. 4 Midland, which gained 41 places overall, and No. 10 Odessa, whose economy jumped a remarkable 57 places. It also added two other mid-size cities to its belt: No. 2 Corpus Christi and No. 4 McAllen-Edinburgh-Mission.

Whatever they are drinking in Texas, other states may want to imbibe. California–which boasted zero regions in the top 150–is a prime example. Indeed, a group of California officials, led by Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom, recently trekked to the Lone Star State to learn possible lessons about what drives job creation. Gov. Jerry Brown and others in California’s hierarchy may not be ready to listen, despite the fact that the city Brown formerly ran, Oakland, ranked absolute last, No. 65, among the big metros in our survey, two places behind perennial also-ran No. 63 Detroit-Livonia-Dearborn, Mich.

One lesson that green-centric California may have trouble learning is that, however attractive the long-term promise of alternative energy, fossil fuels pay the bills and create strong economies, at least for now. Even outside of Texas, oil capitals did well across the board, not surprising given the surging price of gas. Our No. 2 small metro, Bismarck, N.D., which also No. 2 overall, is the emerging capital of the expanding Dakota energy belt. Also faring well are Alaska’s two oil-fire cities, Fairbanks (No. 10 on our small list) and Anchorage (No. 3 on the medium-sized list)....

http://blogs.forbes.com/joelkotkin/2011/05/02/the-best-cities-for-jobs/

July 6, 2011 - The Next Big Boom Towns In The U.S.

..........”Many of our top performers are not surprising. No. 1 Austin, Texas, and No. 2 Raleigh, N.C., have it all demographically: high rates of immigration and migration of educated workers and healthy increases in population and number of children. They are also economic superstars, with job-creation records among the best in the nation.

Perhaps less expected is the No. 3 ranking for Nashville, Tenn. The country music capital, with its low housing prices and pro-business environment, has experienced rapid growth in educated migrants, where it ranks an impressive fourth in terms of percentage growth. New ethnic groups, such as Latinos and Asians, have doubled in size over the past decade.

Two advantages Nashville and other rising Southern cities like No. 8 Charlotte, N.C., possess are a mild climate and smaller scale. Even with population growth, they do not suffer the persistent transportation bottlenecks that strangle the older growth hubs. At the same time, these cities are building the infrastructure — roads, cultural institutions and airports — critical to future growth. Charlotte’s bustling airport may never be as big as Atlanta’s Hartsfield, but it serves both major national and international routes.

Of course, Texas metropolitan areas feature prominently on our list of future boom towns, including No. 4 San Antonio, No. 5 Houston and No. 7 Dallas, which over the past years boasted the biggest jump in new jobs, over 83,000. Aided by relatively low housing prices and buoyant economies, these Lone Star cities have become major hubs for jobs and families.

And there’s more growth to come. With its strategically located airport, Dallas is emerging as the ideal place for corporate relocations. And Houston, with its burgeoning port and dominance of the world energy business, seems destined to become ever more influential in the coming decade. Both cities have emerged as major immigrant hubs, attracting on newcomers at a rate far higher than old immigrant hubs like Chicago, Boston and Seattle.”........

http://blogs.forbes.com/joelkotkin/2011/07/06/the-next-big-boom-towns-in-the-u-s/


131 posted on 07/11/2011 2:38:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m genuinely curious why you feel the need to constantly post feel-good stories about Texas that have nothing to do with Rick Perry. The conditions that exist for a favorable business client in Texas were created decades before Rick Perry ever entered politics, and in some cases before Rick Perry was even born.


132 posted on 07/11/2011 9:30:56 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

If it even matters to you....

“Calcowgirl” and I were discussing the Port of Houston and the need in Texas for infrastructure to move goods and services.

Why are you coming in here to make comments to me for no other reason than to be annoying?


133 posted on 07/11/2011 9:37:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BobL
I hear you. It really seems that Perry is convinced that he’s bullet-proof. Considering that Obama even wants him to run (aka, that death penalty thing this week), there must be some weaknesses in his armor.

Perry has plenty of baggage. If he enters the primaries, you'll see it exposed by his fellow Republicans. A lot of people outside of Texas have this perception about him because he's been Governor for a decade, but the truth is that his competition has always sucked, and nobody wants to go up against the Rick Perry money machine.

Remember, in Texas there are no limits on how much an individual donor can contribute to somebody, and Rick Perry has billionaires backing him who have given millions of dollars to him and other politicians within the state who support him. When you have that kind of money, with the potential for more as needed, there isn't going to be much serious competition.

This is something that will hurt Perry if he ran in the primaries though, because all of the sudden Perry's money machine would run out of steam due to restrictions on donations at the federal level. Plus he couldn't avoid debating, which he's not really good at, at least when it comes to defending his record.

If I were Obama though, I'd be nervous about Perry. As I said, Perry has a decade-long record of being friendly towards illegal immigrants and trying to help them out, while Obama has just paid them lip service. A Republican that picks up a lot more Hispanic votes is going to be really tough to beat. It's just a matter of Perry's record getting out there to more people. It's a shame that one of the early primaries wasn't in Oklahoma, I'm sure he's got a huge fan base there after he tried to get the TTC built, since he would have helped create a massive transportation corridor from the Mexican border to the Oklahoma border. People in Oklahoma were probably thrilled at the prospect of new jobs that such a massive corridor would have brought.
134 posted on 07/11/2011 9:53:00 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

Sorry, I thought that was another attempt on your part to give Perry credit for something that had nothing to do with him. My apologies.


135 posted on 07/11/2011 9:55:03 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

You didn’t have to ping me — I saw your post to BobL

Rick Perry really has you worried.

For you to take so much time trying to get your “talking points” on these Perry threads — even up to adding something after Post #100...when no one has written a comment to you....is truly telling about how unsure you are of your own candidate — that you feel it’s doing some good to try to cut Perry down.

Good luck with that.


136 posted on 07/11/2011 10:00:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rick Perry really has you worried.

Says the person who has tried to give Perry credit for things that had nothing to do with him, or has tried to downplay large parts of his record and even claim they don't matter. If Perry is such a great candidate, you shouldn't have to do that.

For you to take so much time trying to get your “talking points” on these Perry threads

Says the person who has started numerous pro-Perry threads that repeat the same talking points over and over.

that you feel it’s doing some good to try to cut Perry down.

You may call it cutting him down, but these things that are brought up are things he has said and done. I want people to see that he's been a long-time supporter of illegal immigrants, that he support a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-gun control Presidential candidate in 2008, that he's done a lot of sleazy things that would get him heavy public criticism if we here a Democrat, and that people need to look past the pretty speeches and understand that Perry is a typical Texas politician - he says whatever the crowd in front of him at that moment wants to hear, and he's in the pocket of big money donors. Those big money donors helped kill off the sanctuary cities bill in Texas a few weeks ago and Perry didn't say a single negative thing about them or try and fly back from California and fight against them.

I want Obama defeated as much as you do, and I think Perry can do it, and I'm being pretty serious when I say his pro-illegal immigrant record can help him beat Obama. As a Christian, Perry has made a lot of points about helping illegal immigrants that I can't really argue against. But he's also done many other things that I can argue against, many of which benefit his friends, associates, and donors, and he doesn't come clean about them, and I have a problem with that, especially as a taxpayer in Texas.

You're upset that I come into pro-Perry threads and post about his record and his many negatives, but one thing you need to understand is that his record will be brought up, by his fellow Republicans if he enters the primaries, and by the Democrats if he forgoes the primaries in favor of taking the VP slot. It's best that everybody understands who the real Rick Perry is now and understands what he has done and said as Governor over the past decade, and understand that what he has done and said as Governor over the last 10 years can and will influence him if he becomes President or Vice President.
137 posted on 07/11/2011 10:28:52 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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