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France tells Libya rebels to seek peace with Gaddafi (Obama's losing his illegal war)
reuters ^ | 7/10/2011 | By Lamine Chikhi

Posted on 07/10/2011 3:15:27 PM PDT by tobyhill

A French minister said on Sunday it was time for Libya's rebels to negotiate with Muammar Gaddafi's government, but Washington said it stood firm in its belief that the Libyan leader cannot stay in power.

The diverging messages from two leading members of the Western coalition opposing Gaddafi hinted at the strain the alliance is under after more than three months of air strikes that have cost billions of dollars and failed to produce the swift outcome its backers had expected.

French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet signaled growing impatience with the progress of the conflict when he said the rebels should negotiate now with Gaddafi's government and not wait for his defeat.

The rebels have so far refused to hold talks as long as Gaddafi is still in power, a stance which before now none of NATO's major powers has publicly challenged.

"We have .... have asked them to speak to each other," Longuet, whose government has until now been among the most hawkish on Libya, said on French television station BFM TV.

"The position of the TNC (rebel Transitional National Council) is very far from other positions. Now, there will be a need to sit around a table," he said."

Asked if it was possible to hold talks if Gaddafi had not stepped down, Longuet said: "He will be in another room in his palace with another title."

Soon after, the State Department in Washington issued a message that gave no hint of compromise.

"The Libyan people will be the ones to decide how this transition takes place, but we stand firm in our belief that Gaddafi cannot remain in power," the department said in a written reply to a query.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: default; dncwar; gaddafi; italy; libya; noflyzone; obamasillegalwar; obamaswar; obamawar4libya; oil; vatican
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To: tobyhill

Jug Ears couldnt find his ass with two hands and a map, and you are surprised...


21 posted on 07/10/2011 4:25:50 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: tobyhill
There are two thing necessary for Obummer to effectively lose the Libyan war, and those are:

1) Libyan oil production is redirected to China for purchase, and

2) Mo holds on to the Libyan gold in the treasury, denying it to the IMF.

If those events occur, Obummer has lost the war.

Additionally, if Qaddafi retains some sort of title and remains in Libya through a negotiated peace of any kind, then Zer0 will be perceived to have lost COMPLETELY, even if Mo gives up the oil income to the Muslim Brotherhood.

22 posted on 07/10/2011 4:29:05 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: tobyhill

Liberals love illegal wars for oil.


23 posted on 07/10/2011 4:43:26 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: cripplecreek; Owen

Any oil removed from the world supply chain effects other distribution points as consumers look to make up the loss.


24 posted on 07/10/2011 4:46:07 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Owen

re: Oil is everything.

And there’s plenty of Brent light in the Gulf of Mexico, which we’re not allowed to get to...


25 posted on 07/10/2011 4:47:46 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Tempest
Any oil removed from the world supply chain effects other distribution points as consumers look to make up the loss.

This much is true. In fact I was just reading about France and Italy looking elsewhere.
26 posted on 07/10/2011 4:48:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: hosepipe



27 posted on 07/10/2011 5:36:03 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness smelled around the earth.)
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To: tobyhill

You can’t negotiate or ‘talk to’ a madman dictator. Remember Saddam Hussein talked his sons-in-law, who’d challenged him, to return to Iraq with his daughters, all’s cool? He summarily executed them. Does anyone think Qaddafi is any different?


28 posted on 07/10/2011 5:40:55 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: tobyhill

Looks like the French were pretty far off on this one!


29 posted on 08/23/2011 8:45:06 AM PDT by Mudcat (What would Reagan do?)
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To: Mudcat

There will always be Daffy Loyalist and now there will be civil war for decades.


30 posted on 08/23/2011 8:48:23 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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