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John Boehner: New debt option ‘may be worthy'
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Posted on 07/14/2011 7:09:59 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: bonehead4freedom

Looks like they are going to call his bluff.........sigh.......


41 posted on 07/14/2011 8:06:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: GeronL
Does McConnell and Boner think the conservative base will support this capitulation??

They don't CARE if we support it.

They see it like it is: They know we'll moan and groan, post snide comments on the Internet, vote in elections we know are fixed, play by the rules..

But they don't play by the rules - they use the rules, and they will rule us.

42 posted on 07/14/2011 8:10:30 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: bonehead4freedom

I hold the winning hand,all the cards favor me....must find a way to lose....cave.....can’t actually let those tea party whipper snappers ruin things....New York Times profile....60 minutes segment....I’ve grown into the job....not an extremist....Rachel Madow interview...lady fingers with Lindsey Graham....where was I oh yeah “We hope to find a way to work with the President to achieve a solution together....”

Infuriating, this bunch ,they have detached themselves from OUR Realities!!


43 posted on 07/14/2011 8:15:15 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why is it when I see stories like this it from the likes of Politico, NYT, AP or Rooters.


44 posted on 07/14/2011 8:16:59 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Pelosi: Obamacare indulgences for sale.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The Republican leadership fails to realize how they have completely disqualified themselves. Traitors left and right.

Remember in 2012, if there is anything left of the Constitutional Republic to save.

45 posted on 07/14/2011 8:22:21 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Sub-Driver

More debt is NOT an option.


46 posted on 07/14/2011 8:23:05 PM PDT by bgill
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To: okie01

“They weren’t elected to find an out. They were elected to do the right thing!”

Remember, these people are living ina bubble, surrounded by largely gay reporters screaming “WILL YOU STARVE GRANDMA!” at them.

They are under tremendous pressure right now, from both the folks at home, and the whacckjobs in the media.


47 posted on 07/14/2011 8:24:38 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: Sub-Driver

John Boehner and Mitch McConnell are monumental disappointments. How do they think capitulation helps their party? All it does is give us four more years of Obama.


48 posted on 07/14/2011 8:29:50 PM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Genius my ass, it just shows how badly the republicans want to cave and continue spending. This is the same crap the republicans in the senate pull in the lame duck.


50 posted on 07/14/2011 8:41:53 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Cboldt
...where do McConnell and now Boehner find, in the constitution, a power for the president to borrow money over the objections of a majority of Congress?

They ALREADY delegated it to a private company called the Federal Reserve, not only to borrow it from the Fed, but to allow the Fed to print it in the first place at the cost of the paper, and then loan it to the country at its face value - with interest. And that's just to GET our own currency, before we DO anything with it.

That's why this whole "crisis" is a joke. A bad joke, a harmful joke, but a joke nonetheless. Because neither the administration nor Congress calls the shots anymore, and hasn't for a long time - the Fed alone controls the money supply, and the government does what they're told.

You're watching a dog and pony show.

51 posted on 07/14/2011 8:45:07 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Sub-Driver
“Senate plan that would surrender much of Congress’s power over Treasury’s borrowing to the president. “

So win addition to defecating on the Constitution; will he also urinate on it?

Does he know know the words to his oath of office:

“Oath of Office
“I, (name of Member), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.” .”

http://clerk.house.gov/member_info/memberfaq.aspx

52 posted on 07/14/2011 8:48:24 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Sub-Driver

Boehner will cave. He’s so queer.


53 posted on 07/14/2011 9:00:32 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with political parties. The GOP is useless. Anarchy is perferable to this CRAP!)
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To: GeronL

54 posted on 07/14/2011 9:01:47 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: Nuc 1.1

“Actually it’s more like telling Picket’s men to kill each other”

Ha! That’s a good one, but that’s about right. The McConnell plan is a lock in the Senate. Easily 70 votes. The question will be whether Boehner decides to bring it to a vote in the House, or if he decides to fight. And I think we all know what he’ll do there. Once Boehner places the McConnell plan before the House, with all the sad language, and “tough vote” garbage that he said when he voted for the Bailout, it’ll pass, probably with 250-300 votes. Nearly all the Democrats will vote for it. The RINOs will go for it, and that will be that.

The question at that point is, what does the GOP caucus do? The GOP freshman will know at that point they’ve been sold out. I don’t know what the rules of the House are, but it seems the only logical step then for the Tea Party freshman will be to “kill” Boehner, if you will. To oust him as Speaker. It will be clear as day at that point you have GOP House members who want to clean up the mess, and you have the leadership who wants to do business as usual, go to cocktail parties and play golf. If the GOP/Tea Party members don’t revolt against the leadership, I would think the GOP will lose the House in 2012, and not retake the Senate. The only chance we would have to defeat Obama is if we have a candidate who aggressively runs against both Obama and the GOP.


55 posted on 07/14/2011 9:33:44 PM PDT by Big E
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To: Sub-Driver

The GOP does not realize that the potential exists for Trials and Hangings on the Capitol Steps.


56 posted on 07/14/2011 9:38:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Sub-Driver

If Politico’s calling it “genius”, the plan is obviously a win for Obomba. The truly annoying thing is that the Republicans think they can abdicate their responsibility and not suffer any consequences. They truly are idiots if that’s the case.


57 posted on 07/14/2011 9:54:13 PM PDT by Antoninus (What part of "I won't vote for Romney under any circumstances" don't you understand?)
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To: Sub-Driver
"As outlined by McConnell, Congress would temporarily surrender its power to approve any increase in the debt ceiling."

surrendering-emotion

58 posted on 07/15/2011 3:21:11 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Principled

I do believe the GOP would be blamed for no deal and the subsequent cuts—unless the House just does its job and passes a modest bill on its own. Let the Senate Dems and Obama refuse to accept the House’s work.

As to cuts from the Dems, read this and weep—they are negotiating more than a $100B of increases at this point:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/271936/democrats-still-want-spend-more-andrew-stiles


59 posted on 07/15/2011 3:25:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Sub-Driver

Charles may be late to the point, but he’s here advocating the right thing for Boehner and the House to do:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/call-his-bluff/2011/07/14/gIQAfzFyEI_story.html?wprss=rss_opinions

And if too many GOP freshmen won’t go along with it, it’s time to whip them into agreement.


60 posted on 07/15/2011 3:30:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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