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Michele Bachmann officially leaves her church (Jeremiah Wright deja vu)
CNN ^ | July 15th, 2011 | Eric Marrapodi

Posted on 07/15/2011 12:54:00 PM PDT by Polybius

Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann has long been a darling of conservative evangelicals, but shortly before announcing her White House bid, she officially quit a church she’d belonged to for years. ....

The Bachmanns had been members of the church for more than 10 years, according to Joel Hochmuth, director of communications for the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, ....

The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod has come under criticism from some Catholics for its views on the papacy, an institution that the denomination calls the Antichrist.

"We identify the Antichrist as the Papacy," the denomination's website says. "This is an historical judgment based on Scripture."

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


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It seems that Michele Bachmann has a "Jeremiah Wright" problem with the Church that she attented for over ten years.

"We identify the Antichrist as the Papacy," the denomination's website says. "This is an historical judgment based on Scripture."

According to Hochmuth, the pastor told Bachmann that WELS “primarily views the office of the papacy as the anti-Christ, not the individual popes themselves." Asked for comment, Birkholz said Thursday, “I have been asked by my congregation not to give any more interviews.’

It is one thing for a Church to point out that a doctrine was uttered in the 16th Century. It is quite another thing to post such a teaching on their 21st Century web page.

Evangelical Protestants only make up 2 out of every 10 voters. There is absolutely no way that such a candidate can ever win the general Presidential election.

Even many evangelical Protestants will have a problem with Michele Bachmann having her finger on the Nuclear Button when she believes that she must be "subservient" to her husband to the following degree:

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Bachmann: "God called me to run for Congress"

In this speech at a mega-church in the Minneapolis area back in 2006, Michele Bachmann explained her decision to pursue tax law wasn't her choice. Her husband, Marcus told her "to go and get a post-doctorate degree in tax law." This was not what Michele wanted. ("Tax law? I hate taxes!"), but she was believed that God was speaking through her husband.

"Why should I go and do something like that? But the Lord says, 'Be submissive wives; you are to be submissive to your husbands.”

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The entire Bachmann religious package is just simply too much to expect the 80% of all voters that are not evangelical Protestants to buy into.

1 posted on 07/15/2011 12:54:01 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: tcg

FYI


2 posted on 07/15/2011 12:54:40 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

Deep on the bowels of many a church, whether founded in a town in Wisconsin, a big old place in Italy, or anywhere, ludicrous statements may be found.


3 posted on 07/15/2011 12:58:10 PM PDT by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... | We are Gulag Bound)
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To: Polybius

Run Sarah Run! Bachman is not my choice for many reasons..this is just one more.


4 posted on 07/15/2011 12:59:58 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: Polybius

Everyday she is on the defensive is a day she can’t get her message out. This is standard attack practices by the media.


5 posted on 07/15/2011 1:00:23 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Polybius

I heard this on CNNradio via internet earlier today. I really dislike these people. Now they care about a candidates church?


6 posted on 07/15/2011 1:01:26 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

Only if the candidate is a Republican.


7 posted on 07/15/2011 1:04:38 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: Polybius

Dumb move. Leaving the church is a tacit admission of guilt. They’re going to smear her with this anyway - she should have stood firm.


8 posted on 07/15/2011 1:06:09 PM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: Polybius
There is absolutely no way that such a candidate can ever win the general Presidential election

Gee, is that why California has 2 Jewish female Senators, for example? Since when is being a religious minority a barrier to public office?

Protestants of whatever stripe founded the United States and did so in direct contravention of the institution of the Papacy and the Catholic church in Europe, which ratified and controlled the monarchial system there.

Why should WELS apologize for their views? That viewpoint created the United States.

Perhaps one of the valuable lessons Michelle Bachmann could provide is just why such a viewpoint is at the heart of America.

In the end, as someone else pointed out, who do the Catholics plan to vote for: the Muslim from Jakarta?

9 posted on 07/15/2011 1:08:41 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: freespirited

Only if the candidate is a Republican.


Did she make Obama run the Wright gaunlet?


10 posted on 07/15/2011 1:10:15 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Polybius

Should have done this before making a bid for the presidency IMO.


11 posted on 07/15/2011 1:10:37 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Polybius
I'm one of those 'Evangelical Protestants' and while I prefer a presidential candidate have more than a passing knowledge of the Bible, I don't believe that I should only vote for a candidate that precisely reflects my religious views. Politics are secular. I can see why Michele Bachmann wanted to distance herself from her church and it's fairly inflammatory position on the Pope but then, evangelical Christian churches all view homosexual behavior as a sin, right along with heterosexual adultery and fornication (hetero sex without benefit of marriage). Is she going to join a church that approves of homosexual behavior so she can appease the gay voters? I doubt it. Perhaps Mrs. Bachmann will go the agnostic route and avoid any connection to a formal religion. Whatever her decisions in the religion area, I'm a bit suspect of a politician that, instead of publicly disagreeing with their churches position on an issue, then leaving, just quietly withdraws their membership and hopes no one notices. Seems a bit cowardly. However, I don't vote for a candidate based on what church they attend but on their public positions on political and cultural issues I consider important. What Michelle Bachmann thinks about her husband or what church she holds membership in are of only passing interest to me. I just hope she maintains some kind of faith. She'll need it in the months to come.
12 posted on 07/15/2011 1:11:28 PM PDT by Jim Scott ( Sarah Palin for president in 2012!)
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To: Regulator
Protestants of whatever stripe founded the United States and did so in direct contravention of the institution of the Papacy and the Catholic church in Europe, which ratified and controlled the monarchial system there.

Really? As I recall, the monarchical system against which the 13 colonies rebelled was Protestant.

13 posted on 07/15/2011 1:12:41 PM PDT by Claud
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To: Polybius

All Protestant denominations originated in the Reformation, which is the source of these ideas; more American Presidents have been Protestant than any other denomination. So any Protestant running for any office could well be attacked on the same grounds. This type of issue signifies that the initiator of the conversation is either ignorant of the fact that the Reformation era ended a few centuries ago and the fact that Roman Catholics and Protestants can hardly be considered to be “at war” any more, or, more probably, they are simply trying to “stir the pot”.

Those most ardently Roman Catholic and those most ardently Reformation-minded actually now have much more in common with each other than with anyone else. Though published viewpoints of various denominations may be at odds with each other these types of conflicts are not the focus of the daily lives of Christians any more.

Christians who are not so ardent about, or even knowledgeable of the differences between Protestantism and Roman Catholicism, which is to say, most Christians, will have seen too big a difference between what obama promised and what he delivered to vote for him again, unless they are so supportive of new world order that they will vote from him no matter what anyway.


14 posted on 07/15/2011 1:15:35 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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To: Regulator

I seem to remember one JFK that you excoriated for being Catholic. Funny how what goes around, comes around.

Good on Bachmann for joining another protestant church that teaches biblical principles.


15 posted on 07/15/2011 1:16:05 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: Polybius

She shoulda stayed put in my opinion. I dunno what motivated her to make this decision, but I fear that it was political expediency and not theological conviction.


16 posted on 07/15/2011 1:16:46 PM PDT by Claud
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To: katiedidit1

Another trashing of a good conservative by the Palinistas as they chase those evil windmills that stand in the way of their dreams.


17 posted on 07/15/2011 1:17:57 PM PDT by Matt Hatter
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To: Claud

Shh, don’t spread facts!


18 posted on 07/15/2011 1:18:15 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: Polybius

Perhaps, but if it’s her or Obama, it’s not even close. If it’s Palin or Obama, it’s not close. If it’s Perry or Obama . . . . all the way down to Elmer Fudd or the kid who bags my groceries . . . and Obama, it’s not close.


19 posted on 07/15/2011 1:19:26 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Claud

Question, would you vote for a Catholic who said that he believed that evangelical protestants were heretics?


20 posted on 07/15/2011 1:19:29 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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