Posted on 07/20/2011 2:35:17 PM PDT by Winged Hussar
A popular bumper sticker proclaims that free people own guns, while slaves do not. History shows, however, that masters have often issued weapons to slaves under conditions in which the latter's socioeconomic standing made rebellion unlikely. History also shows that, despite efforts by Bill Clinton's and Barack Obama's Supreme Court Justices to amend the Constitution without the consent of the states or Congress (see Squealer the Pig in George Orwell's Animal Farm), the Second Amendment is an individual right.
We once received a jury notice summons that warned of "bodily attachment" if we failed to either respond or comply. The practice is more than two thousand years old -- ancient Athens owned a police force of Scythian archers, one of whose functions was to round up negligent citizens for civic duties. The slave-police used dye-impregnated ropes to mark delinquents, who were fined or had to forfeit their stipend for attendance. The Greek citizen-soldier himself, however, was expected to own weapons. The bronze armor of the hoplite, or armored infantryman, was extremely expensive, so only wealthy landowners could afford to be hoplites. This is why everybody in the Iliad was so obsessed with capturing armor or saving it from the enemy.
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Dohhh! hit the button twice.
I have a question that I can’t seem to get a decent answer to.
If an illegal alien enjoys the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th Amendment protections, do they not also enjoy the 2nd?
If so, can we reasonably imagine the FF agreeing to an armed alien populace, who, for all intents and purposes, invaded without overt force?
Some argue that the right to be armed is in absolute inalienable right, for EVERYONE, but how can that really be true?
Just witnessing people’s reaction to the sight of free men and woman carrying the means to their self defense is both amusing and depressing at the same time.
The spectacle is well worth the price of admission.
An illegal alien enjoys only the rights the state chooses to grant him. However, federal law restricts illegals from any Second Amendment rights. The buyer and the seller both risk criminal prosecution in those cases.
American citizens have those rights inherently, and legal aliens have them by statute. In either case, the rights can only be abridged by conviction of some crime that carries "suspension of rights" while the punishment is still in effect.
That's how it's supposed to work, on paper. With The One, it all depends on someone's whim.
>If so, can we reasonably imagine the FF agreeing to an armed alien populace, who, for all intents and purposes, invaded without overt force?
Ah, and therein you hit the nail on the head: they are legitimately termed invaders and therefore martial-force may (and arguably must; see US Constitution Art 4, Sec 4) be used against them.
In your opinion, and in light of the permissiveness of current and previous administrations, do you think that an illegal alien activist group will one day make a serious challenge to the 2nd Amendment Federal exclusion?
I could see La Raza or Maldef exploiting a situation to push for this...
i realize they do, for political reasons, but i believe yer question is based on an improper starting point...
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