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Man Almost Takes Woman's Baby From Cemetery
KIII TV3 ^ | Jul 21, 2011 | KIII TV3

Posted on 07/21/2011 6:29:53 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

PREMONT (Kiii News) - A man, thought to be an illegal immigrant, is on the loose after reportedly attacking two women at a cemetery in Premont Wednesday night.

Police, sheriff's deputies, and border patrol agents never found the man. The women say the man came out of nowhere, claiming to be from Mexico and in need of a ride to Houston. That man reportedly pushed the two women, grabbed one of their car keys, got in their SUV, and then tried to drive off with one of the lady's five month-old baby in the backseat. The women recently recounted to 3 News what happened.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alien; downapoint; illegalalien; immigration; mx; pointless
The women recently recounted to 3 News what happened never did post what happened.
1 posted on 07/21/2011 6:29:58 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Where is Premont?


2 posted on 07/21/2011 6:34:31 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: moonshinner_09

If it had been me, he would have been a dead illegal alien (defense of self and others).


3 posted on 07/21/2011 6:39:34 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Ditter

I beleive in Texas


4 posted on 07/21/2011 6:46:48 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: Ditter

On highway 281 in South Texas. Halfway between San Antonio and McAllen, about an hour southwest of me. I have several friends that live there. Had a truck with a bunch unload a couple of miles from my house one night with DPS after them. Of course, all the restaurants are staffed by illegals down here (Mexican food, that is, which 80% of the restaurants are). They steal pickups and strip all but the driver’s seat to get more people in. They drive cross country, running through fences. My secretary’s husband is a Border Patrol agent. They find the pickups abandoned in San Antonio or other cities inland.


5 posted on 07/21/2011 6:56:48 PM PDT by TStro
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To: TStro

Thanks, I thought I had been all over south Texas but had never heard of that town. Tragic what is going on in our state.


6 posted on 07/21/2011 7:03:24 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: moonshinner_09
You know, I keep hearing conservatives (on radio) say that, when it comes to illegal immigration, nobody's talking about deporting the 20+million illegal aliens in America.

Um, ... can we START talking about it?

Personally, I think a formal Declaration of War against Mexico is in order. And that's after we deport every last illegal, ban them from ever entering the U.S. again, and build a fence, a wall, a ditch, AND an alligator-filled moat along the Mexican border.

7 posted on 07/21/2011 7:36:25 PM PDT by PENANCE
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To: PENANCE

Personally, I think a formal Declaration of War against Mexico is in order.

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First, it might be wise for about 44 States to secede from Washington D.C.


8 posted on 07/21/2011 8:16:10 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: PENANCE
> an alligator-filled moat along the Mexican border.

That puts the alligators at risk of being shot by the Mexicans; not fair to the alligators.

Instead of using animals, I recommend infrared motion sensors and machine gun emplacements that are programmed to fire at moving bodies larger than, say, 5 feet long/tall. Take out the adult invaders, and their kids will run back.

I'm only slightly exaggerating. This is invasion and war.

In fairness, lots of big signs warning of imminent death from automatic machine guns, in English and Spanish. They should be the only signs or other documents that the US government should have to print in both languages.

9 posted on 07/21/2011 8:28:34 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Boy - that lady was determined - she ripped the window out of the SUV and then beat on him with a stick - and he took off running.

The adrenaline must really have kicked in - how do you rip a window out of a vehicle?


10 posted on 07/21/2011 8:52:06 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: reaganaut

>>If it had been me, he would have been a dead illegal alien (defense of self and others).<<

Do you understand Spanish? If not, you had better not shoot anyone unless they have a weapon in their hand AND are using it to injure someone. This could easily be a family fight and you don’t want to get involved unless you have the immunity of a badge on your chest.


11 posted on 07/21/2011 9:38:16 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

Yes, I understand Spanish (grew up in southern California) and I understand the law (married to an attorney). If someone pushes me and tries to take my truck with my baby in it, he’s dead. Defense of self and others.

I didn’t say I would get involved if it weren’t me, I said if it were me (ie the victim).

They don’t need a weapon in their hand for it to be assault and battery. Or for me to fire in self defense.


12 posted on 07/21/2011 9:42:56 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: B4Ranch

Or are you one of those people who don’t think a 5 months old baby is a ‘real’ person?


13 posted on 07/21/2011 10:06:10 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: maine-iac7

probably - windows were cracked open to keep the baby cool - so you grab the top edge and yank with all your might.

oh yeah - major adrenaline! good for her.


14 posted on 07/21/2011 10:13:30 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: reaganaut

I said > This could easily be a family fight and you don’t want to get involved unless you have the immunity of a badge on your chest.

If you think sisters or mothers won’t lie to protect their drunk, dope addicted brothers or sons, you’re wrong.

Defense of self carries enough burden. Defense of others can get damn expensive!


15 posted on 07/21/2011 10:15:08 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

But it wasn’t a family fight. And again, read my post, I never said I (as an outsider) would get involved. I said if I were the victim.

You are adding a lot to the story that isn’t there, no mention of mothers or sisters at all. This was a stranger who attacked two women in a cemetary, tried to steal their SUV and kidnapp the child.

Dear God, can’t you read?

Don’t think I would take killing someone lightly, I wouldn’t but I would kill to protect my child, you better believe it, especially from a damned illegal (read criminal) alien.

And my lawyer works for free for me.


16 posted on 07/21/2011 10:19:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Of course not. What I am saying is if you make the wrong decisions you will spend a lot of time defending them and still end up behind bars. Think TWICE shoot once.


17 posted on 07/21/2011 10:19:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

WTH are you talking to me like I’m stupid???!

You don’t think I know that it serious? I have had several CCW courses including law enforcement level tactical training courses.

Learn to read, rather than just assume.


18 posted on 07/21/2011 10:22:12 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Don’t think I would take killing someone lightly, I wouldn’t but I would kill to protect my child, you better believe it, especially from a damned illegal (read criminal) alien.

I agree wholeheartedly.

19 posted on 07/21/2011 10:24:36 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: reaganaut

Not meaning to insinuate that you’re stupid. However your initial statement “If it had been me, he would have been a dead illegal alien (defense of self and others)” might be the reason why someone else shoots first and then has to say oh sh!t.

Rarely is there enough information in a single article to determine if it is justifiable cause to shoot.


20 posted on 07/21/2011 10:29:50 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

I stand by my initial statement. If someone came up to me, assaulted me (pushing), tried to steal my car and thus kidnap my child, they would be dead. That is defense of me (a vehicle can be a weapon) and my child.


21 posted on 07/21/2011 10:32:35 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: B4Ranch

Living in NV, how do you feel about the alien invaders? Around here, they aren’t welcome at all, especially if they commit other crimes.


22 posted on 07/21/2011 10:33:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Unless I read you completely wrong, which has happened before.

Now you are trying to stretch the rope. (defense of self and others). This is an incident where you would be defending others, their five month old child. That’s an entirely different situation than if it was your child. Your child, it would matter at all if you understood what language the criminal was speaking. He attempts to kidnap your child, BANG. Collect the body.


23 posted on 07/21/2011 10:48:41 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: reaganaut

If you’re seeing alien invaders, please surrender your weapons. ALL of them.


24 posted on 07/21/2011 10:50:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: reaganaut
Don’t think I would take killing someone lightly, I wouldn’t but I would kill to protect my child, you better believe it, especially from a damned illegal (read criminal) alien.

Yes indeed...me too! No hesitation either, they'd be going down for the count if it was my baby...and it would n't matter who the individual was....everybody knows well you don't come between a mom and her kid.

25 posted on 07/21/2011 10:59:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: B4Ranch

Your child, it would matter at all if you understood what language the criminal was speaking. He attempts to kidnap your child, BANG. Collect the body.

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Defense of my child would legally be defense of others.

Self defense would also apply as a vehicle can be (and has been) considered a weapon.

And BINGO that is what I said. If it were me. You seem to keep thinking I said I would get involved if I were not the victim, I have no idea where you got that.


26 posted on 07/21/2011 11:03:18 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: B4Ranch

illegal aliens = alien invaders. They are aliens invading our country from Mexico (and other countries). We also call them criminal invaders here.


27 posted on 07/21/2011 11:04:25 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: caww

exactly, CAWW.


28 posted on 07/21/2011 11:05:49 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: B4Ranch

You still didn’t answer my question. Living in NV, how do you feel about the alien invaders (illegal aliens)?


29 posted on 07/21/2011 11:12:27 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Should alien invaders as you call them, require any assistance whatsoever, I always call the helpful folks at (775) 784-5170. They are just a great bunch of people. One call and they immediately send out a crew to assist anyone who doesn’t speak English fluently.

If you aren’t familiar with the local customs here in Nevada or are hungry or just looking for a place to lay your head down, they’ll help. Yup, those guys and gals at ICE are the people to call. Amigo, 784-5170 is the number to call if you need help.

Have you heard of Aunt B? My attitude is just a bit to the right of hers when it comes to dealing with wetbacks, alien invaders as you call them.


30 posted on 07/22/2011 7:13:52 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: moonshinner_09; Arrowhead1952; Racehorse; chicagolady; K-oneTexas; fuzzthatwuz; publana; ...

South Texas ping!


31 posted on 07/22/2011 8:37:59 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Ditter

While I’m leaning toward a law allowing us to shoot illegals on sight, this headline leads you to believe he grabbed the baby from the arms of the Mother. He still would have been charged with kidnapping, and again, I still think he should just be shot, but I hate headlines that are misleading purposely.


32 posted on 07/22/2011 8:45:20 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Going into Rehab means never having to say you are sorry....)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

When I read the headline I thought the guy had taken a dead baby. That is beyond creepy!


33 posted on 07/22/2011 9:12:49 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Haha, sorry, that isn’t really funny - but you are right, the headline could have meant that as well!


34 posted on 07/22/2011 9:20:03 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Going into Rehab means never having to say you are sorry....)
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To: Psalm 144
First, it might be wise for about 44 States to secede from Washington D.C.

Well, i'm on board with that too; regardless of the border issue.

35 posted on 07/22/2011 9:36:16 AM PDT by PENANCE
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To: B4Ranch

When we lived in CA, ICE didn’t bother to respond half the time.

Aunt B? The only Aunt B i know of is the one from Mayberry.


36 posted on 07/22/2011 8:20:34 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

AuntB
Since Oct 15, 1998

Aunt B pissed JR off with her continual posting of reports of illegal aliens traffic and criminal behavior.

There’s a small group on FR that appears to love the bastards and I am guessing they chewed JR out for allowing this annoyance. He started chewing on Aunt B. Finally she said screw it and rarely even posts anymore.

Take a look

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:auntb/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


37 posted on 07/22/2011 8:45:00 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: TStro

I know some people who now live here in Massachusetts but used to live in south Texas near the border. She told me that when she lived down there, they could not leave anything outside because it would be stolen. When she came up here she was surprised that people had home decorations, plants, outdoor furniture and kids toys outside and no one stole them.


38 posted on 07/25/2011 5:04:50 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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