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Farm Thieves...Target Grapes, Even Bees (Warning For Those of Us Buying Farmland)
NYTimes ^

Posted on 07/22/2011 6:14:22 AM PDT by quesney

While thievery has long been a fact of life in the country, such crimes are on the rise and fighting them has become harder in many parts of California as many grants for rural law enforcement have withered on the vine.

While other states have their own agricultural intrigue — cattle rustlers in Texas, tomato takers in Florida — few areas can claim a wider variety of farm felons than California, where ambushes on everything from almonds to beehives have been reported in recent years. Then there is the hardware: diesel fuel, tools and truck batteries regularly disappear in the Central Valley, the state’s agricultural powerhouse, where high unemployment, foreclosures and methamphetamine abuse have made criminals more desperate, officials say.

“All of our ag crimes are up,” said Sergeant Reed, who oversees a unit of two full-time detectives — down from three a year ago — all patrolling a county about eight times the size of Rhode Island. A wet winter and warm summer, after all, have meant healthy crops, he said, and a healthy market means happy thieves.

“Everything this year is doing well,” Sergeant Reed said. “And if it’s doing well here, there’s somebody looking to steal it.”

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To: John123
"Unless you train them to fire a weapon, they will get shot."

First, dogs are but one layer of a protective/defensive onion. Singularly they may be taken out by a determined invader, but not before they provide notice and buy time. I would not expect my dog to survive a home invasion by a determined crew, but I would however expect him to provide me enough advanced warning and buy enough time that I would at least have some chance to prepare myself for what was coming.

The same thing would apply in a larger agricultural setting, although one dog would not be sufficient. Mastiffs have been historically used to patrol large estates for poachers, and in combination with adequate fencing, cleared fields of observation, etc. would be pretty effective deterring, detecting and delaying any but the most determined interlopers on a rural agricultural property.

21 posted on 07/22/2011 6:57:49 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: quesney
Time to break out the ranch rifle, as in it shoots across the ranch:
22 posted on 07/22/2011 6:59:07 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: MrB
0bama hasn’t made it illegal to emigrate to another state, though - just sayin’

I have a 20 year investment in restoring native plant habitat with the legal leverage which to establish a precedent to bring a successful free-market encroachment against the crooked environmental juggernaut that is wrecking the entire country. You would have me walk away?

Yeah, right.

23 posted on 07/22/2011 7:05:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: GenXteacher
Time to break out the ranch rifle, as in it shoots across the ranch:

Defense of property is not justification for the use of lethal force in California, as is true in most states.

24 posted on 07/22/2011 7:07:57 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Ditter

Do what people do around here, get yourself a couple of jackasses.

They’ll bite them or kick the crap out of them.


25 posted on 07/22/2011 7:08:23 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: quesney

A dog and an auto loading shotgun for starters.


26 posted on 07/22/2011 7:11:00 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: IMR 4350

” Do what people do around here, get yourself a couple of jackasses. “

All of our local jackasses have Gummint jobs....

Just sayin’.....


27 posted on 07/22/2011 7:12:29 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Carry_Okie

A pity. My opinion is that all states should take a more Texan view. Thieves are nothing more than two legged vermin, and should be dealt with accordingly.


28 posted on 07/22/2011 7:13:29 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Well, obviously you’ve done an analysis and decided it was more desirable to stay. Good luck to you.

Some folks, though, are staying in Cali “cuz the weather’s nice”, and then complain about the encroachments on their freedoms. They need to re-examine.


29 posted on 07/22/2011 7:13:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: org.whodat

Sneaking around on our property you will likely meet Mr. Bushmaster M-4 and Ms. AK 74 unless I have a headache. then you will meet Mrs. Mossberg 500. “Officer they rushed us and we were afraid for our lives”.


30 posted on 07/22/2011 7:13:54 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I guess you just have to make sure there’s only one account of the incident that gets told.


31 posted on 07/22/2011 7:15:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Carry_Okie

“But sheriff, I thought they was feral hogs I was shootin’ at! Oh well, you got any good recipes for Mexican Barbecue?”


32 posted on 07/22/2011 7:16:19 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: kittymyrib
"The more illegal aliens in an area, the more theft of every kind. They consider themselves immune to our laws."

Yep, just stealin' the crops and equipment that Americans don't want to steal.

33 posted on 07/22/2011 7:30:31 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (A government agency is the closest thing to eternal life you'll ever see on Earth. RReagan)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
How hard is it to accidentally trespass on your property or in your general area? I am not criticizing you protecting your land at all, just curious. I've heard several first hand accounts of people walking through public land and accidentally walking on somebodies private property and being met with a gun, in one case a warning shot.
34 posted on 07/22/2011 7:32:08 AM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: MrB

True but it won’t matter when the SHTF and its going to. There won’t be any LEO’s coming around to ask what happened. There won’t be any 911 either.


35 posted on 07/22/2011 7:39:22 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

If you shoot someone for “sneaking” around your property, you’re going to the gray-bar hotel and/or will be bankrupted by a personal injury lawyer who will say you shot a couple of “kids” for stealing tomatoes or whatever. No offense, but don’t delude yourself.


36 posted on 07/22/2011 7:41:17 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: elcid1970
“But sheriff, I thought they was feral hogs I was shootin’ at! Oh well, you got any good recipes for Mexican Barbecue?”

We're gonna need those feral hogs to deal with the corpus delectable. Might finally be good for something.

37 posted on 07/22/2011 7:41:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: GenXteacher

Bean field rifle

http://www.jarrettrifles.com/beanfield.html


38 posted on 07/22/2011 7:42:45 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: GenXteacher

Unless they’re stealing in the daytime. Texas law only allows for deadly force defense of property at night.


39 posted on 07/22/2011 7:44:27 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I couldn’t find the article right off, but I think it’s part of Rawles’ writings.

Assume that, at some time, law and government will be re-established and that you will likely be questioned about the circumstances of any death that occurs that you are involved in.

IE, stay “above board” and don’t do things that you would consider to be underhanded when it comes to self defense, etc.


40 posted on 07/22/2011 7:44:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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