Lawyer: Norway suspect wanted anti-Muslim crusade

forbes ^ | 07.24.11 | BJOERN AMLAND and SARAH DiLORENZO

[tsowellfan]

Killing kids on an island is not going to help you get your revolution started.

Amen to that. What was he trying to do? Was his objective to kill and then have the public believe it was done by Muslims?

[AppyPappy]

Any idiot could see that wasn’t a workable plan. A crazy person might think so.

[mac_truck]

Just exactly what type of retreat was this?

I read they were Labour Party youth activists, which in this case included people in their 20s.

[tsowellfan]

Crazy for sure. Seems like he was more like a Charles Manson than a Timothy McVeigh.

At some point Manson tried to get the blacks blamed for some of his murders. Sounds like what this crazy guy was trying to do.

What a shame. Poor children who lost their lives because of this man. By European standards... this man could be facing 20 years.

[yldstrk]

Oh horsefeathers.

[GAB-1955]

I believe it is possible the killer could have done all this by himself; however, they will find a network of moral support urging such acts. As Lincoln noted, we will have to find the wily agitator behind this act and shoot him.

[yldstrk]

The “police” response was mild to say the least.

[Old Badger]

"I read they were Labour Party youth activists, which in this case included people in their 20s."

Thanks for the information.

[FlyingEagle]

The Euro backlash against multiculti has been brewing for some time. This nutcase is criminally outlandish. He thought about it for a long time and became crazier and crazier and then he went berserk. The political correct euromuslim thing is more than he could handle. Unfortunately, he could not be intercepted before doing such harm and senseless killing. It is almost more like an act of anarchy than anything else, wanton senseless destruction against the system and citizens.

The thing is, the promise of jihad combined with destruction of western culture is enough threat to some nationalists in Europe to rationalize an insanely violent response. People will react against the marxist credo creeping in to eliminate their national identity. I have been expecting something like this to happen but I though it would occur in some more islamic country like England or France.

[chargers fan]

Was his objective to kill and then have the public believe it was done by Muslims?

It's worked with some people here. You could have a full confession from this guy and they would say it was a Muslim. I know that we ask many times "If mainstream Islam isn't represented by terrorist why don't more Muslims come out and condem those attacks." Well, I'll be the first to say publicly that even if this guy claims to be a Christian and a right winger he doesn't represent me, my faith, or those of you who stand with me for what is right. Our cause isn't about seeking out and killing a bunch of kids.

[WackySam]

Amen to that. What was he trying to do? Was his objective to kill and then have the public believe it was done by Muslims?

I don't think that was the plan. I'm pretty sure he wants full credit for his actions.

From his manifesto-

War or armed resistance has traditionally always been used as a last resort, used when dialogue has proven to be ineffective. The justification for use of armed resistance against the European cultural Marxist/multiculturalist systems is tied to the outlook for cultural conservative political success. You have to ask yourself; is it remotely possible under the current conditions that a conservative, monocultural political party will ever gain substantial political influence? An increasing number of Europeans are opening theireyes to the reality that the democratical struggle through dialogue has been lost. The cultural Marxists have institutionalized multiculturalism and have no intention of ever allowing us to exercise any political influence of significance. In theory we, the cultural conservatives of Europe, have become slaves under an oppressive, tyrannical, extreme left-wing system with absolutely no hope of reversing the damage they have caused. At least not democratically..It is meaningless to participate in the democratical process when you are not allowed to raise important issues without being subjected to political and social persecution through stigmatisation and ridicule. It is time to acknowledge that we, the cultural conservatives of Western Europe, are deceiving ourselves to believe that it is remotely possible to change the system democratically.

[Stalwart]

My thinking is more along the lines of Stockton Schoolyard.

[KosmicKitty]

Dude want to start another crusade.

[Eye of Unk]

I could see this spreading around the globe, and it could repeat itself in other places, like in Australia.

But I don’t quite see it happening here in America, not to say it won’t but should an Obama regime take further and continued control of the nation, his Youth Corp, his protectionist stance for all Moslems including mass murderers then I could probably admit we could not just have one or a couple of similar incidents of lone wolf anarchists like this but a simultaneous uprising of several hundred across the country.

Non are connected to each other in any fashion and if they are it will be by accident.

But being uncontrolled lone wolfs they will seek no logical tactical plan, no plan of sanity, not even sane, it will be sheer frustration and insanity brewed by what they feel is wrong. And in this rage they will seek targets of opportunity. Any soft target, and thats the key phrase, the “soft” target.

[AppyPappy]

I don’t think so. I’m leaning toward “crazy as a sh!thouse rat”. Charles Manson type. Virginia Tech gunman crazy. Columbine crazy. The more I read about this, the less I see any type of reason for it. The VT shooter has the same manifesto. In the end, the only reason was to kill.

It is odd there was no security on the island. I wonder if the kids demanded that lack of security.

[KosmicKitty]

If you read his Knights Templar log, he was hoping for a civil war between Europeans and Muslims.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/

[SaraJohnson]

Perhaps now the sheeple in every country will be comparing anyone who warns of the coming Muslim storm with that mad man. For that reason, does the massacre help the Muslim cause?

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To the Leftists who control the European and American press, everything is used and spun to help the Muslim cause. They share a blood lust and deep seated hatred towards Christians. Our own government has named non-socialist Christian Americans, domestic terrorists at the behest of leftist “hate experts.”

[Cheburashka]

Just exactly what type of retreat was this? They keep saying a youth retreat but what type? Was it Christian? Jewish? Buddhist? Muslim?

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Socialist. As in future socialist elites of Norway.

[AppyPappy]

His actions don’t match his words. If he REALLY wanted to do that, he would have rampaged on Muslim kids and caused a backlash. But instead, he killed kids who looked just like him.

[ken21]

didn’t pam geller say that someone had changed his facebook page to “Christian”?