Hmmm, training camps for children, hmmm, where have we seen this before ...?
Posted on 07/24/2011 9:04:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The Foreign Minister was met with claims that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp Thursday.
During the second day of Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya got the Labour Party’s young hopefuls visit by Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store.
Together with Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation correspondent Sidsel Wold and Norwegian People’s Aid Kirsten Belck-Olsen, the Foreign Minister discussed of the deadlock between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.
As the foreign minister arrived Utøya he was met with a demand from the AUF that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state.
The Palestinians must have their own state, the occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now, said the Foreign Minister to cheers from the audience.
Earlier this week, when Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas visited Norway, the Minister said to TV 2 news channel that Norway stands ready to recognize a Palestinian state.
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Interesting little tidbit. Looking for it to break on MSM news outlets in...
Why? What difference does it make?
The island of Utoya is owned by the Workers’ Youth League (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking).
These were 16 to 22 year old sons & daughters of COMMUNISTS & SOCIALISTS at a Communist Socialist training camp on the island.
Probably none, at least in any meaningful sense.
Although, come to think of it, it just might fit the MSM template.
(Eeeeeeeeevil white male against noble swarthy suicide bombers)...
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2753168/posts?page=3#3
That is College age indoctrination camps. Not the American Summer Camps.
Government Funded to continue the destruction of Christian ,Capitalist and a free society.
Any wonder how Hitler did what he did. He would have been a hero had he not involved Germany in attacking Europe. Little did he know he could have taken over Europe without firing a shot.
Like the Pali cheers on 9-11 or when rockets land on children's schools in Israel?
And the perp claimed to be a Christian right-winger. (I smell sulfur in the air.)
One thing is clear - the shooter is neither a Christian nor a Jew, but the latter will be blamed anyway.
Interesting article on Debka this morning about why he did the killing. This article ties right in.
I also read that the “session” was extremely anti-Semitic.
What difference would it make?
None in the pure sense that children were murdered.
But in the grand scale, this “youth camp” is frighteningly similar to the Hitler youths. They are being brainwashed by leftists to attack Western civilization.
As part of that attack, in the past 20 years, these leftists have colluded with the Islamofascists and, as such, have become enablers of global terrorism at the least, and, at worst, direct participants.
No, it doesn’t justify killing children, even if that is one of their preferred attacks (killing Jewish children and children in such places as Beslan).
If this is what motivated the murders yesterday, then the man who killed these children simply adopted the techniques of the leftists and Jihadists. It doesn’t make it right, and that’s not the way we operate. But the left and the Islamofascists sure as hell should be the last ones complaining about the immorality/amorality of the attack.
He opposes uncontrolled immigration, is skeptical of social programs and condemns Islamism and socialism.
Far from belonging to a radical fringe, his views - on paper - reflect the views of a large plurality of 30ish European males.
In other words, he is the terrorist the European left has always dreamed of and hoped for. The next time a fanatical Muslim blows up a train, the next time an anarchist burns down a building, the next time a Red Brigade comrade shoots up a military base, this individual will be cited as proof that Islamism, anarchism, communism are not inherently violent - that all groups, even normal mainstream Europeans, have such violent people within their ranks.
European community organizing has had it's tent lifted.
And all those nice lefties thought that the children of the West would stop with just hating themselves, but they were wrong.
This camp sounds like a Public Skool.
OK. I’ll say it. Wall-to-wall pix of blond-haired, blue-eyed, classic Scandinavian profile. Vs. Video of the young people who escaped, all but one of whom do not fit that profile.
Report after report of European—and now, American—honor killings, illegals from moslem countries who are not deported but receive benefits, rapes, drugs, gangs and crime over and over, and no one says boo. People who come out warning, e.g., Geert Wilders, are blasted at every turn.
Parents, friends, brothers and sisters of native-born W Europeans express fear of specifically moslem immigrant gangs, crimes and rapes. The police do not come to their aid. Government officials do not come to their aid.
A young spokesman for the people at the summer camp in Norway spoke specifically of the continued aims of the young people there: “tolerance and anti-racism.” This translates to “globalism and anti-semitic, anti-Israel, and PRO-MUSLUM” values.
We skirt the discussion, but it is obvious, and it is neither right nor left wing, UNLESS THE LEFT WING IS PROUD TO NO LONGER BE PATRIOTIC in any Western nation.
Show me where any W European or American leader encourages ‘gay’ ‘marriage’ for moslems....(or abortions....or divorces...or any kind of non-traditional lifestyle). Specifically for MOSLEMS. Show me 1.
There are more than a few people wondering why he chose this “camp full of children that look just like him” instead of killing Muslims. This is why he chose this site.
The youths supported the Palestinians. The Palestinians have engaged in terrorist bombings and shootings of innocent civilians, including teenagers for decades. To be consistent in their beliefs, the youths must support the persons who did the bombing in Oslo and the shootings on the Island.
Where’s NAMBLA when an 8 YO boy was hanged by the Taliban? http://wireupdate.com/wires/18994/taliban-hang-8-year-old-boy-in-southern-afghanistan/
Where’s NOW when moslems are OK with marrying 8-YO girls, even in Western countries?
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/sharia-defeat-in-australia-.html
Where’s Facebook when the Norway guy’s Facebook pages were altered? http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/who-added-christian-and-conservative-to-norway-shooters-facebook-page-yesterday.html
Where’s the equivalent ‘tolerance’ for Western medical practitioners’ conscientious objections to abort, to demand sterile care, to not kill older adults? http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/more-than-three-quarters-of-muslim-med-students-feel-right-to-refuse-treatment.html
Where’s the NY Times OUTRAGE at obvious moslem infiltration of NYC and its government? http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/muslim-dad-found-guilty-of-hiding-devout-sons-nyc-massive-subway-bomb-plot-on-911-anniversary.html
How many older Whites, unborn Whites and Blacks, and Jews, then Christians, will have to die before someone ON THE LEFT speaks the truth about obvious facts?
The Left, Socialists, Marxists and Islam-’ists’ have already united. Caliphate by any other name is NWO.
Does “pro-Palestinian” automatically translate to “death to Israel and all Jews” in Norway as it does in the Middle East?
linky?
God help Europe; and may God grant solace to the families. Having lost a child myself, I know nothing will be the same for them.
“These were 16 to 22 year old sons & daughters of COMMUNISTS & SOCIALISTS at a Communist Socialist training camp on the island.
That is College age indoctrination camps. Not the American Summer Camps.”
Yea...you do have to wonder just how long Norwegians will continue to “tolerate” this crap.
“And all those nice lefties thought that the children of the West would stop with just hating themselves, but they were wrong.”
Actually, it was all the nice, normal, people in Europe that figured that the leftists they elected would be content to build nice social-democracies where everyone had health care, free college, and could take 2 years vacation between jobs. They weren’t. The social-democracy model, apparently, is just an interim state until they can flood those countries with enough foreigners to send themselves back to the Stone Age. The social-democracy part was simply to get elected and stay in office long enough to carry out the process.
The Europeans are slowly starting to figure this out. This guy is simply ahead of the curve and wasn’t willing to wait until the starting whistle was fired. This has to all end in a horrible war that will make WW2 look like a walk in the park...there is no possible way to avoid it.
The end-goal, for these liberals in power, is simply the end of Western Civilization. Nothing else can explain the need to flood their own countries with Muslims and then jailing people that object (under hate-crime laws).
“To be consistent in their beliefs, the youths must support the persons who did the bombing in Oslo and the shootings on the Island.”
To be sure, twisted minds are not exclusive Norway, they can be found right here on this thread.
None of these kids, even if it is true they were pro-palestinian as you say, will have the opportunity to see the error of their ways, or turn against those that would indoctrinate them politically.
I stand firmly against you and your brand of inhumanity.
I hope one day, you will realize how stupid this post of yours is.
Don’t forget the Oslo Accords that resulted in empower the Palies to commit huge amounts of terrorism against Israelis.
Take a look at 10 rules Jante Law which is Scandanavian in origin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jante_Law
There are ten different rules in the law as defined by Sandemose, but they all express variations on a single theme and are usually referred to as a homogeneous unit: Don’t think you’re anyone special or that you’re better than us.
The ten rules state:
1. Don’t think you’re anything special.
2. Don’t think you’re as good as us.
3. Don’t think you’re smarter than us.
4. Don’t convince yourself that you’re better than us.
5. Don’t think you know more than us.
6. Don’t think you are more important than us.
7. Don’t think you are good at anything.
8. Don’t laugh at us.
9. Don’t think anyone cares about you.
10. Don’t think you can teach us anything.
An eleventh rule recognized in the novel is:
11. Don’t think that there aren’t a few things we know about you.
In the book, the Janters who transgress this unwritten ‘law’ are regarded with suspicion and some hostility, as it goes against communal desire in the town to preserve harmony, social stability and uniformity.
Why does it matter?
Well, it explains to me why someone who is anti-islamic went bezerk on NON Muslims
he went after those who were PRO-Muslim
“Does “pro-Palestinian” automatically translate to “death to Israel and all Jews” in Norway as it does in the Middle East?”
Yes, in their context, it simply means the extermination of Israel and whoever there doesn’t get out in time.
Much nicer among upper-crust company to say you’re “pro-Palestinian” rather than supporting a genocide - after all genocides are ugly affairs, don’t you know. But everyone at the pool-party knows just what you mean.
“Well, it explains to me why someone who is anti-islamic went bezerk on NON Muslims...he went after those who were PRO-Muslim”
It makes a LOT more sense to me too (which kinda scares me).
Leftists are widely known to call for OUR deaths, the deaths of those who disagree with their socialist thinking, yet to actually go out and murder people!
Remember that Star Trek Movie where the klingon moon exploded? Kirk said that the guy who was behind the assassination of the Klingon ambassador did feel like he did about kilngons for killing his son...only worse!
That is what this is. People who support the death and destruction of Israel and promote the Palestinians are preaching for the deaths of Israel, whether they realize it or not. People who are outraged over that anti-Israel hatred are ready to go to war to defend Israel and their own livelihood. Only they aren't going out to murder people openly like the left is calling for concerning Conservatives.
This man recognized how evil they are, as do most of us, only he felt worse about it than we do.
He went on a rampage over his righteous indignation.
Face it , he did to them what the left has been saying for years what they want to do to those who are against gay rights, Gay marriage, socialized medicine, against Obama, whatever.
He was BILL AYERS and the WEATHER UNDERGROUND with a better opportunity and better skills.
he also admires Al Qaeda!
“This man recognized how evil they are, as do most of us, only he felt worse about it than we do.
He went on a rampage over his righteous indignation.
Face it , he did to them what the left has been saying for years what they want to do to those who are against gay rights, Gay marriage, socialized medicine, against Obama, whatever.”
You NAILED it. The left doesn’t have to go on killing sprees, at least in Europe, as they already wield their dictatorial powers and can jail any meaningful opposition, based on ‘homophobia’, ‘Islamophobia’, or whatever other hate-crime laws they need.
It was a despicable horrendous act the shooter did.
But with that said, I did notice that many of the island survivors interviewed were certainly not of Norwegian ancestry.
"I stand firmly against you and your brand of inhumanity."
My brand of humanity would not permit me to do the things that the Palestinian terrorists, and the bombers and shooters in Norway did, nor to support their actions. Chill on your nonsensical judgment.
"I hope one day, you will realize how stupid this post of yours is."
In time, you will realize how devoid of reasoning your statements are.
“Just like when it was revealed in Britain, that Labor had purposefully encouraged rampant immigration to accomplish two main goals- accuse conservatives of racism and dilute(ultimately eliminate) Western culture. “
I remember that coming out earlier this year. It confirmed what I’ve always said - which is that Liberals and Socialists are VERY SMART - they are not dumb, or mis-guided - they know EXACTLY what they’re doing and they would jail us (or worse) if they could just figure out a way. It’s been like that since the dawn of civilization.
We take them lightly at our own risk. Both Dr. Laura and Tony Snow were CONVINCED that part of what Rush says was
‘embellishment’, in order to get ratings. Tony Snow learned that it wasn’t once he starting fighting the public school that his daughters were enrolled at. Laura learned it when she dared to criticize gays, who ultimately drove her off the air.
I learned who they were at COLLEGE, when I went to teach-ins to see what they were about. They talked about the coming revolution and how they were going to organize things after...and they were DEAD SERIOUS.
Hopefully more people are starting to figure these people out and understand that they have to stopped cold, and NEVER compromised with. The only thing that I have trouble figuring out, of all of this, is how did Rush get it too? He didn’t go to an ESU-type school that I went to and didn’t stay there long as it was. I may never know for sure.
In other words, he is the terrorist the European left has always dreamed of and hoped for.
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brilliant summary!
...and that is exactly what doesn’t make any sense here.
his older writings were mostly logical. he identified problems. he had 2 degrees and wasn’t stupid.
so WHY did he do this? 3 SECONDS of thought, and he had to have realized, that his plan would result in making the government he opposed, STRONGER.
(in fact, the conservatives were gaining there. the Olso police report that 100% of violent rapes were ALL done by the 4% of immigrants. the public sentiment WAS turning against immigration.)
what he did, will result in the exact opposite of what he wanted. and he WAS smart enough to realize that.
so why ???
Perfectly stated.
A Freemason that admires al-Qaeda??? That sounds like someone with a badly malfunctioning rudder.
We still don't know all of the story. He's starting to sound more like Jared Loughner.
The more I read about this, the more I think you have the right of it there.
great post, great links.
Rush is a smart guy, and part of his success is his ability to assess situations. Taking the long view and analyzing the evidence would get the same conclusion that you got and Dr. Laura and Tony Snow. Plus, people tell Rush things. Just as people on the inside were/are giving info to Beck, no doubt Rush has plenty of “moles”. Islam and communism and socialism are indeed evil made manifest and will never give up or stop until the End. That is what people need to really fully realize- this is not just a few “bad people” or people with mistaken ideas, good intentions gone wrong, etc, it is indeed Satan at work and the devil will never stop.
I don’t agree that this act means that people will allow government to grow more powerful or influential.
I have long felt that today’s economic situation closely mirrors much of the situation leading up to WWII. People are uncertain about the future, willing to look at outsiders (immigrants) as part of the problem, and vulnerable to an outburst of extreme nationalism if charismatic leadership presents itself.
Remember the reason that European socialism took hold post-WWII. An entire generation of fathers and young men were lost to the war and in many ways, socialist systems were necessary to care for women, children, elederly and others who lost core providers to combat.
That generation is passed now and the overall demographics of Europe by age more closely resemble pre-war Europe. People want to thrive, not contribute to the mass hive or give to outsiders - it’s simple psychology; all people are fundamentally selfish (they want comfort, security and health at the base levels, regardless of others’ needs). The difference now, is that there are many more young and energetic people feeling this; that they are not thriving, that they are uncertain about the future, that the government has contributed by prioritizing outsiders over them.
The post-war generation had grown war-weary after WWII. This generation does not have the same frame of reference and many of the same frustrations of their pre-WWII ancestors.
I do not condone this shooter, but do feel that he may quite likely become the first of many frustrated people to break, or symptomatic of a larger movement set to rise.
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