Norway Killer: Must 'Kill Civilian Children To Earn Trust of and Reach Common Ground With Islam'

Breivik Manifesto/kevinislaughter.com ^ | unk | Anders Behring Breivik

[drpix]

From Killer's Own Words: "...The Islamic Ummah should view our enemies; the US/EU globalists, as a greater threat than we would ever aspire to be. The reason is that we do not wish to destroy Islam but simply to isolate it primarily outside Europe."

"Assuming we will ever seek common ground, which is unlikely at best, the problem will be the authentication process. How can the Ummah, the enemy of our enemy, know they are really dealing with a Justiciar Knight and not a CIA or EU agent? How can it be proved that the individual seeking to become a proxy for the deployment of nuclear/radiological/biological/chemical weapon(s) isn’t an undercover agent working for the US or a Western European country’s intelligence?"

The difference between an agent and a Justiciar Knight is that the latter will be willing to make a great sacrifice for the purpose of proper validation. Now what kind of sacrifice would be great enough to remove all doubt that the candidate is not a EU/US agent? A Justiciar Knight is willing to martyr himself for the cause while a EU/US agent will not be willing to sacrifice much. The entity should demand that the alleged Justiciar Knight in question surgically remove his penis and testicles and/or execute a fixed number of civilian children."

[Manifesto, {page 960 (of pdf file)]

[Texas Fossil]

It is obvious this goober did not act alone. Now the Question needing answered, who encouraged/helped him?

Civi’s don’t built bombs without “professional” help. This one worked.

He said in the manifesto that they organized in London? May be true or may not.

He expresses some sympathy toward “some” Muslims and encourages dialog with them. (not good or bad on the face, but don’t expect honesty).

What does this do to the alignment of Muzzies and the “Left”. It has been coming for a while, is this another manifestation?

He is not Christian by his own admission, but expresses desire to keep Christian traditions of the West.

STRANGE!

[little jeremiah]

Most of the 1500 pp were quotes from others. From what I’ve read here, he wrote about 150pp.

[algernonpj]

... he is in no way irrational. He’s rather ruthless and coldly calcuating, in the manner of an accomplished serial killer. Medieval in a Vlad the Impaler kind of way -...

Agreed. Brevik is not attempting to win the trust of the Islamists or reach an accomodation. He clearly identifies the Islamists as an age old enemy.

Here's the full paragraph with white space added to facilitate reading:

"The obvious challenge is the fact that the Islamic Ummah, aka “International Islamic Front for Jihad against Jews and Crusaders” and PCCTS, Knights Templar (representing the International Crusader front against Jihadi imperialism) have conflicting goals.

Not only are we arch enemies in a war which stretches back 1400 years to the day when the warlord, Muhammad’s, forces first started to massacre Jews and Christians in the western Jihadi front.

They wish to conquer all Christian European lands and forcefully convert us while we wish to deport all Muslims from Christian territory and isolate them.

Regardless of these obvious conflicts, they should understand that we are not imperialists in contrary to the US/EU globalists who seek to maintain the Islamic puppet regimes and force the European way on them.

The Islamic Ummah should view our enemies; the US/EU globalists, as a greater threat than we would ever aspire to be. The reason is that we do not wish to destroy Islam but simply to isolate it primarily outside Europe."

[RadiationRomeo]

From what I have seen over the years the Norwegian white natioanlist extremists are not Christian but are instead devout Odonists.

[little jeremiah]

What do devout Odonists believe or practice?

[bereanway]

So Breivik feels by killing a bunch of Norweigan kids that he somehow authenticates himself with the Ummah. It sounds like he wants them to know he’s serious so they’ll turn around and leave Europe voluntarily. If this guy were a real Knight he’d get serious about attacking and driving out those he wants gone. In that fashion alone he’d authenticate himself rather than pursuing some cockeyed theory.

Breivik occassionally sounds coherent but then he just takes off on crazy tangents like this.

[dennisw]

Don’t hang on these words of his. I’m sure his manifestos contain tons of contradictions and inconsistencies.

[algernonpj]

... he is in no way irrational. He’s rather ruthless and coldly calcuating, in the manner of an accomplished serial killer. Medieval in a Vlad the Impaler kind of way -...

Agreed. Brevik is not attempting to win the trust of the Islamists or reach an accomodation. He clearly identifies the Islamists as an age old enemy.

Here's the full paragraph with white space added to facilitate reading:

"The obvious challenge is the fact that the Islamic Ummah, aka “International Islamic Front for Jihad against Jews and Crusaders” and PCCTS, Knights Templar (representing the International Crusader front against Jihadi imperialism) have conflicting goals.

Not only are we arch enemies in a war which stretches back 1400 years to the day when the warlord, Muhammad’s, forces first started to massacre Jews and Christians in the western Jihadi front.

They wish to conquer all Christian European lands and forcefully convert us while we wish to deport all Muslims from Christian territory and isolate them.

Regardless of these obvious conflicts, they should understand that we are not imperialists in contrary to the US/EU globalists who seek to maintain the Islamic puppet regimes and force the European way on them.

The Islamic Ummah should view our enemies; the US/EU globalists, as a greater threat than we would ever aspire to be. The reason is that we do not wish to destroy Islam but simply to isolate it primarily outside Europe."

[algernonpj]

OOPS ... sorry for the double post ... not quite certain how that happened.

[Free Vulcan]

The idea of a Muslim land for Muslims and a Christian land for Christians is not my way of thinking, but it’s not without precedent, or sure. Standard European thought for centuries IMO.

He is correct that the Globalists have changed that and brought in the Muslims to European countries to bring chaos and anarchy and weaken their national will. Not an uncommon practice in history of conquerors and rulers, which the Globalists try to be. They know Islam doesn’t assimilate and they assume they can subdue Europe and not get eaten themselves.

His solution to that problem is horrific and barbaric even if he correctly points out the imperialistic motives of the Globalists. It isn’t without precedent though. Talk of mutilating oneself to prove loyalty and killing children to snuff out the future leadership of your opponent is radical in our society. Historically though it’s not so radical and used to varying degrees in the past. Hence my Vlad the Impaler reference. These tactics are quite common in mafia organizations to varying degrees.

You get past the horror and you realize this guy is not Jared Loughner. Crazy, but a very high functioning crazy, hard core, dedicated, and competent. That is obvious by the sophistication and discipline that he pulled this off with. Now it seems he’s part of a group. If they are half as competent I’d be worried.

[Marty62]

Guess the Germans are looking the other way again.
It’s like we are living in pre-WWII again. History repeats.
Except this time oil will be used as a weapon.

[Marty62]

uh huh, remind you of the Hitler-Stalin Pact?

Each fighting for their genocidal ideologies.

[cynwoody]

Can’t guarantee the veracity of this, but I read somewhere on FR that he faces 21 years. No DP, of course.

That's basically true.

The only exception is an ability to extend his stay in the can in five-year increments if it can be proven he is a high risk to re-offend. However, according to a Norwegian prosecutor I saw quoted, that is very rare.

[cynwoody]

Medieval in a Vlad the Impaler kind of way - he sees the problem, but his methods are way out of bounds.

Dracula is among his heroes. From page 244 of the Manifesto:

Vlad Tepes/Vlad III the Impaler: Crusader and Hero of the Romanians:

Vlad the Impaler was a genius of psychological warfare. His legacy deserve to be studied in modern-days schools of PR, political sciences, military, social psychology etc . Like any other ruler, he had two enemies: internal disorder or treason and external Islamic agressors threatening his country. He managed to defeat his external enemies, using same level of cruelty like any other ruler of his times, but he was a real master of STAGING the cruelty to obtain maximum effect. He was the greatest master of imagology, hundreds of years before this science to be discovered and theorised. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_Dracula

Vlad Tepes

[drpix]

"Brevik is not attempting to win the trust of the Islamists or reach an accomodation. He clearly identifies the Islamists as an age old enemy."

While he does identify Islam as an age old enemy, he nevertheless, in his own words speaks of winning the trust of and an accommodation with the "Ummah." Here's the flow of his actions and thoughts running in reverse from action through "logic" - thinking like a Hitler/Stalin sociopath and seeing purpose in a pact similar to the one that bares both their names..

What did Breivik do?

He executed "civilian children."

What does he say would be a reason to "execute" "civilian children?"

"The entity should demand that the alleged Justiciar Knight in question surgically remove his penis and testicles and/or execute a fixed number of civilian children."

Why would the entity demand this?

It is the "kind of sacrifice {that} would be great enough to remove all doubt that the candidate is not a EU/US agent."

Why would a "sacrifice" be required?

So "the Ummah, the enemy of our enemy, know they are really dealing with a Justiciar Knight and not a CIA or EU agent."

Why would a "Justiciar Knight" want the Ummah to know this?

If we "seek common ground" and to show then "we do not wish to destroy Islam but simply to isolate it primarily outside Europe" and leaving the rest of the world theirs for the claiming.

AND FROM THE EXCERPT IN POST #36: What purpose would be served by common ground with the Ummah?

"There might come a time when we, the PCCTS, Knights Templar will consider to use or even to work as a proxy for the enemies of our enemies...with the intention for deployment of small nuclear, radiological, biological or chemical weapons in Western European capitals and other high priority locations."

Someone could reply that all of this was merely hypothetical in his Manifesto! But problem with that is that the "execution" of "civilian children" did NOT remain hypothetical and despite searching his 1500 page manifesto, I found no other "hypothetical" situation were the killer prescribed this action for any other purpose.

I just hope that the "John Doe/Does" in this terrorist act do/does not get the same free pass given to "John Doe 2" in the OKC Bombing - just for the sake of a Leftwing anti-White-Christian political narrative. The stakes this time may be even greater!

[drpix]

"...remind you of the Hitler-Stalin Pact?"

Exactly! Thank you & see my post #55.

[Free Vulcan]

Those children though were the children of the elitist left wing Euroglobalist types - more than likely the future leaders, movers and shakers of Norwegian politics. This wasn’t simply some kind of initiation rite, he was making a strategic move to wipe out the next generation of his perceived enemies, the ones allowing Islamic immigration into Norway and Europe.

Barbaric, horrific, genocidal, and immoral, but he knew EXACTLY who he was targeting and why.

[Texas Fossil]

I have been exposed to 2 new words today. “justiciar” & “Odonist” It will take me a while to get perspective of where this is coming from.

[drpix]

Your conjecture as to why he picked these particular children may be right. But that would not be inconsistent with his statements that such an act would earn the trust of the Ummah and could lead to (as AlJazeera characterized his Manifesto in their headline) "...a Muslim-free Europe, an Infidel-free Middle East" (See my post #29).

In fact the way his Manifesto critiqued the present pact between the Globalist European Left and Islam (which he took from Bat Ye'or's "Eurabia") lead directly to it offering the other vision: a non-globalist Knights Templar pact with Islam restoring a non-Muslim Europe in exchange for leaving the rest of the world open for the Caliphate.

[TASMANIANRED]

European right wing is national socialist.. NAZI