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Libyan Berbers cherish shared history with Jews-Jews are welcome to return to the new Libya
AFP ^
| 7-25-11
| Deborah Pasmantier
Posted on 07/25/2011 5:01:26 PM PDT by SJackson
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posted on
07/25/2011 5:01:29 PM PDT
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
Although more than 100 Jews died in Libyan pogroms in 1945,Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, . . .
To: colorado tanker
5 years ago we were in Akko and a Libyan Jewish coppersmith asked my sephardic Turkish machatenister where is family was from. I guess my father in law looked Libyan
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posted on
07/25/2011 5:11:44 PM PDT
by
hecht
(TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
To: SJackson
So here's a balancing paragraph from
Wikipedia:
Some of the worst anti-Jewish violence occurred in the years following the liberation of North Africa by Allied troops. From November 5 to November 7, 1945, more than 140 Jews were killed and many more injured in a pogrom in Tripoli. The rioters looted nearly all of the city's synagogues and destroyed five of them, along with hundreds of homes and businesses. In June 1948, anti-Jewish rioters killed another 12 Jews and destroyed 280 Jewish homes. This time, however, the Libyan Jewish community had prepared to defend itself. Jewish self-defense units fought back against the rioters, preventing dozens of more deaths.
ML/NJ
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posted on
07/25/2011 5:11:44 PM PDT
by
ml/nj
To: SJackson
Come a little closer said the spider to the fly . . .
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posted on
07/25/2011 5:18:54 PM PDT
by
Psalm 144
(Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
To: SJackson
Years ago, I used to hang out with a Berber ex-pat in NYC. One of the nicest guys I’ve ever known.
To: SJackson
Libyan Berbers cherish shared history with Jews-Jews are welcome to return to the new Libya
Will you walk into my parlor said the spider Moslem Brotherhood to ...
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posted on
07/25/2011 5:30:21 PM PDT
by
algernonpj
(He who pays the piper . . .)
To: hecht
Did a little googling and this article doesn't tell the complete picture. Most Jews were in Cyrenaica and settled there in ancient times when the cities were Greek colonies. After two post-WWII pogroms, most left for Israel.
BTW, there has been heavy fighting between Gaddafi and the rebels in this town, so the timing of the article is especially silly.
To: ml/nj; colorado tanker; rmlew
Someone will probably come along who knows, but my impression is that the Berbers live in in the south and east aren’t particularly “friendly” with the Arabs. In that context, this wouldn’t surprise me
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posted on
07/25/2011 5:36:27 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
To: SJackson
Yes, the Berbers are behind that area of the country rebelling against Gaddafi. But it wasn't the Berbers the old Jews of Libya were worried about, it was the Italians, Germans and then the Arabs. By 1948 and two post-war pogroms, they'd had enough.
To: colorado tanker
The Berbers aren’t Arabs. Most of the anti-Jewish agitation happened in the coastal towns, which are mostly Arab.
The Berbers have been kept down by Arab cultural and political domination in what is now Libya, Tunisia and Algeria; less so in Morocco I believe.
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posted on
07/25/2011 6:25:03 PM PDT
by
buwaya
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posted on
07/25/2011 8:19:38 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: buwaya
The Palestinians are kept down by the Arabs too. It doesn’t make them Jew friendly.
Mass exodus does not usually occur when the area is hospitable.
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posted on
07/26/2011 5:02:08 AM PDT
by
dervish
(women presidential candidates, the last frontier)
To: SJackson
maybe the local berbers want their fellow compatriots who happened to be Jews back, but the Islamic Jihadis who are right now fighting Ghaddafi would like to then kill these returnees...
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posted on
07/26/2011 6:16:14 AM PDT
by
Cronos
( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
To: NativeNewYorker
if he said he was Berber, that's a first sign he was probably not a jihadi. The Berbers who are the majority of people in North Africa (even the folks who say they are "Arabs" like Ghadafii are really Berber by blood) have the feeling that their culture is being eradicated by the forced Arabization that accompanies Islam
remember that St. Augustine was a Berber Christian as were many before the advent of Islam
Now the fanatical ones are those who think they are Arabs...
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posted on
07/26/2011 6:18:43 AM PDT
by
Cronos
( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
To: buwaya
yet even many of the so-called “Arabs” are really Berber by blood.
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posted on
07/26/2011 6:19:21 AM PDT
by
Cronos
( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
To: Cronos
Yes, after a couple of cocktails he’d get all depressed and bitch about how “his” culture was being destroyed.
To: NativeNewYorker
I’ve heard Persians saying the same thing
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posted on
07/26/2011 6:41:40 AM PDT
by
Cronos
( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
To: SJackson; SunkenCiv
Libyan Jewish group recognizes rebels - 7/17/2011 - The World Organization of Libyan Jews, representing 200,000 former refugees, most of whom live in Israel, has officially recognized the Benghazi-based rebels the Libyan National Transitional Council as Libyas legitimate government.
In a letter to Mustafa Abdul Jalil, head of the NTC, the Israeli president of WOLJ, Meir Kahlon, offered his organizations support and assistance.
We feel it is our obligation that Libya become a model state with freedom of thought and religion for all its citizens, the letter stated, announcing the appointment of Dr. David Gerbi as WOLJs legitimate representative.
Gerbi, an Italian Jewish Jungian psychologist born in Tripoli in 1955, has made several trips to Libya in the past decade in attempts to negotiate reconstruction and reconciliation for the Libyan Jewish community that traces its origins to the third century BCE.
Last month, as the first Libyan Jew to publicly declare his backing for the NTC, he worked as a volunteer teaching methods for healing victims of post-traumatic stress syndrome in Bengazis Psychiatric Hospital.
The world-wide community of Libyan Jews is proud that its son, David Gerbi, has made his way to Bengazi to provide humanitarian assistance on the ground to the brave people of that city, the letter said.
To: buwaya
I understand the Arab-Berber thing. But the Arabs have dominated the government since independence. If I learn the rest of the Jewish community is about evacuate to Israel, I'm waving goodbye to my nice Berber neighbors.
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