Skip to comments.Job listings say the unemployed need not apply
Posted on 07/26/2011 10:10:16 AM PDT by Kartographer
Hundreds of job opening listings posted on Monster.com and other jobs sites explicitly state that people who are unemployed would be less attractive applicants, with some telling the long-term unemployed to not even bother with applying.
The New York Times' Catherine Rampell said she found preferences for the already employed or only recently laid off in listings for "hotel concierges, restaurant managers, teachers, I.T. specialists, business analysts, sales directors, account executives, orthopedics device salesmen, auditors and air-conditioning technicians." Even the massive University of Phoenix stated that preference, but removed the listings when the Times started asking questions.
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Its a bit of damned if you do damned if you dont going on here. This whole country is so screwed
The already employeed has always been more attractive than the unemployed. Nothing new here except publicly admitting the fact.
I’m not unemployed, I’ve been doing some independent consulting while setting up a business opportunity.
Just as it's always easier for a guy to get dates, when he's already in a relationship.
I know that some of the unemployed where the slackers but I know others who where targeted for the sin of being 50+
Exactly. Maybe this is there first steps to mandate “evil” corporations hire more less fortunate. You’ve already been told businesses are sitting on trillions of “evil profits” but aren’t hiring.
G-d help us!
After 11 years in IT, my husband spent the past 3 back in construction, but continued sending out apps and resumes by the bucketload every week.
One day back in February he saw a listing for a temp gig installing servers and applied for it - the phone rang 10 minutes later and he is now finally working back in IT full time, albeit thru the temp agency, but that is because of contract agreements, he will transfer over to the company itself in October.
They actually asked him: WHERE have you been?
Them that has - gets...
In flight instruction, the choice is always total experience over recent employment. Money then separates the desperate from the skilled.
I know someone who is long-term unemployed. He can’t keep a job because he is “feral”. He’s been out of work so long, he doesn’t know how to act. Argues religion with people, can’t work on his Sabbath, can’t work a register because he “doesn’t know how”, complains about the lack of benefits. I bet has held 5 jobs that lasted less than a month. When he isn’t working, he’s begging for money from everyone.
My experiences in IT have been much the same. I’ve been working with server hardware and data center management for 10 years now thanks to those temp agencies.
In Brazil and Venezuela!!!
I will continue to stay here until this disaster of a "president" is sent packing and will then switch to strictly 1099 status while I develop my own small business in a different field entirely.
I think employers and companies are unwise to restrict their pool of applicants merely because they are unemployed. It happens and I bet there is not one personnel manager who can give a lucid reason why the policy exists, Having said that, the government has no business layering on another anti discrimination regulation against such a hiring practice. Companies should be free to make “unwise” decisions free of government interference.
The solution is to have your own business so you can say you’re self employed when you’re not working for anyone else.
here is a thought, since the majority of the unemployed are men or older, could this be a way of hidden sexism and agism.
He had been with IBM, but they had been moving to get out of the servicing end, except for big systems for a long time. They started making life so miserable for the techs in an effort to get them to quit so they couldn’t collect unemployment and so the company could stop dealing with the old system pension plan.
We never, in our wildest dreams, imagined it would take so long. It was a miserable 3 years, just trying to maintain, especially when I lost my job less than a year later and was also unable to collect unemployment due to the nature of my employment.
We made it through and our family, and our faith are a whole lot stronger now than ever before. That job was going to kill one of two things, either him or our marriage and family. Those were far more important than the paycheck.
if you are employed:
you have not sued your boss.
you have not tried to unionize.
you don’t complain to annoyance.
you are not too old so they look for excuses to fire you.
you are probably part of a quota group...
Good for you and good luck!
Thank you. As I say in my post at #18 - it has been rough.
We haven’t totally gotten our selves out of the hole, but we’re back filling it pretty well!
A lot of the ‘Employed” people I know are ‘Yes Men’, ‘Yes Women’ and butt kissers who make no waves often just shuffling through their daily routine. I suspect this is one of the reasons ‘employed’ people are good risk for hire... they will never challenge their new boss.
Just like in the late 70’s. Employers think they have the cream of the crop to pick from, but no one wants to move from their current job because no one knows how long any job will last; at least now they’ve got a job they know. And unemployment remains high. Thanks, employers.
So if you are looking for a tech person with a specific set of skills that may be difficult to find you should exclude any applicant sending in a resume with those skills because he is currently unemployed? Quite honestly I would fire the personnel manager who does not interview such an applicant for fear that the applicant may have sued his boss, tried to unionize,etc.. You are not going to know that until you have interviewed him and if he is a whiner or he sued his boss or walks in wearing a dress, you can trash his application.But to hamper the hiring process for fear of what you may run into in an interview for a job function requiring hard to find skills is unwise.
I have to agree with you on this. I know in my own experiences on the job, I get myself into trouble alot because I question and challenge things. I havent been and never will be a “Yes” person. I work with plenty of those mindless “Yes” zombies and they drive me nuts.
In the past, when times were good and unemployment low, the fact that someone was unemployed might well mean something negative. But with the recent high unemployment and large scale layoffs and outsourcing, the fact that someone is unemployed is probably less likely to mean anything negative about the individual. But it's still a disadvantage and probably always will be regardless of the economic situation. Some prospective employers will always suspect something negative, not entirely without reason.
(s) they hire tech people from the usa? from the news one would think they are all h1b visas. (/s)
seriously you do have a point but not all jobs are tech.
ahh, looks like the tort litigation bar has just found a new project to keep them all busy
So start a small business, give it a name, and list it as your current employer. Choose something you already do as a hobby. For me it was sewing costumes in a corner of the living room, for someone else it might be fencing lessons in the back yard, interior decorating consultations, lawn mowing, whatever.
If no one hires you, you can at least try to make a go of the business. If it’s a small enough business the taxes aren’t too bad. And it shows ambition and resourcefullness when listed on your resume. But it also means you now can apply for the “unemployed need not apply” jobs.
Millions of the “unemployed” who survive won’t buy much from those nonproductive employers in their lifetimes. Their day for demise will come soon enough. Service businesses have mostly government income recipients as their customers.
Spite them. Put some thought and work into becoming self-sufficient every day, or not. It’s up to each of you. This country can’t continue to run on debt alone for so many of the government-dependent, licensed and approved, thieving morons.
And BTW, the depression isn’t at its low, yet. It must fall to what the level of manufacturing and agriculture in the USA will support (far less, and that’s in the USA, not counting foreign manufacturing facilities owned by Americans). And the deeper depression is probably going to last ten years or more. ...probably longer. And many of us are refusing to see that foreign enemies also have their eyes on our economic situation, and those foreign enemies are building more nuclear weapons.
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I see many of the employed as the polidiot employees that are slackers but didn’t get cut because of the personal politics.
This makes the unemployed the workers that got cut because they were too busy doing the work and not spending their time politicking.
Your post makes absolutely no sense to me. Why the "Thanks, employers."?
We’re in the same boat. I wish we could move to Texas but most of our biz is tied with the lib major studios. We started doing work for ourselves when we had a boss who was an absolute moron telling us what to do when we knew better than her.