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Black Caucus urges Obama to use 14th Amendment debt fix (Compare to Emancipation Proclamation!)
The Hill ^ | July 30, 2011 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 07/31/2011 10:03:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Democratic members of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) urged President Obama on Saturday to sidestep Congress and hike the nation's $14.3 trillion debt limit on his own.

In a letter to the president, the lawmakers argue that he has "both the authority and a moral obligation" to invoke the Constitution's 14th Amendment "to avoid an economic catastrophe of historic proportions."

"We must not allow a political deadlock to cause the United States to default for the first time in our history," the CBC members wrote. "Now that Congress has borrowed money and incurred debt, we cannot – as a nation and under our Constitution – walk away."

The lawmakers join a growing chorus of Democrats – including Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (Md.) and Caucus Chairman John Larson (Conn.) – who have called on Obama to invoke the Constitution as a last resort to prevent a government default.

Supporters argue that the 14th Amendment – which says "the validity of the public debt … shall not be questioned" – empowers the president to act unilaterally.

Obama has all but ruled out that option.

"I have talked to my lawyers," he said at a town hall meeting last week. "They are not persuaded that that is a winning argument."

The CBC members disagree, arguing that it's his obligation "to do that which is necessary for the good of the country."

"Just as President Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation at a time of emergency in our nation's history to free those who were enslaved during the Civil War, today you face a looming calamity that in some respects is just as grave," they wrote.

Only one CBC member – Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) – did not endorse the letter.


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KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; 2dangerous4words; blacks; democratplantation; democrats; dictatorship; enemywithin; liberalfascism; liberals; obama
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To: shooter223

Doesn’t Section 5 of the 14th Amendment restate that Congress has to legislate the enforcement of the provisions of this amendment? My conclusion is that the POTUS cannot act unilaterally but only with approval. The CBC is willfully stupid!


41 posted on 07/31/2011 11:15:44 AM PDT by calicard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doesn’t he have to declare martial law first?


42 posted on 07/31/2011 11:19:44 AM PDT by Vesparado
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To: Art in Idaho

Well, they sure ain’t et the whiteyhut.


43 posted on 07/31/2011 11:21:53 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: donhunt
How did this country end up with so many stupid people?

How do you end up with anything?
Bought and paid for them.
44 posted on 07/31/2011 11:22:47 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: donhunt

Stupid voters


45 posted on 07/31/2011 11:27:09 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

CBC = racists with power attempting to violate the constitution.

What a miserable country we will have as more of these morons get into positions of power and figure they can get even.

Doubt that statement? Look at any city being run my this minority.


46 posted on 07/31/2011 11:28:31 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama has all but ruled out that option. "I have talked to my lawyers," he said at a town hall meeting last week. "They are not persuaded that that is a winning argument."

His lawyers - not his media people. That's because the 14th DEFINES the "public debt" it is referring to as ONLY: "including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion."

See that word, "including"? It's law-speak for ONLY THIS. No other form of "public debt." So this "public debt is only for "pensions and bounties" - but even then, only pensions and bounties that were derived from "services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion."

That's an incredibly narrow definition - it only deals with a tiny part of the entirety of the "public debt."

And when you also consider that the 14th was adopted in 1868, and the Federal Reserve Act wasn't passed until 45 years late in 1913, there is no possible way that the "public debt" referred to in the 14th is the "public debt" being addressed by the "debt ceiling" today.

47 posted on 07/31/2011 11:40:02 AM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: donhunt

Turn on the television and you’ll have a pretty good idea.


48 posted on 07/31/2011 12:12:40 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No surprise that these Socialist idiots would advocate this kind of move. The CBC is an entity openly hostile to the Constitution and this country.
49 posted on 07/31/2011 12:58:54 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (“I must confess, when I see anyone with an Obama 2012 bumper sticker, I recognize them as a threat")
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To: Cheerio

I would estimate the majority of black Americans are Communist or worse. This minority is probably the least likely group to survive a fragmentation as the Government shuts down. Remember this group cowering and mewing for help when Katrina took away the Gov Teat?


50 posted on 07/31/2011 1:38:26 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: calicard

The quote in my post is section 5, and by my reading, that is exactly what it says.


51 posted on 07/31/2011 1:41:31 PM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Americans who works and pays they's taxes is Obama's neo-slaves. We needs to go back to the porch and pays our taxes to supports the taker class.
52 posted on 07/31/2011 1:56:50 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a bad way, this proves that we really are all equal.

Even for the CBC, a little power is never enough. More, and ever more. For its own self.


53 posted on 07/31/2011 1:57:45 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: Justa

“There will merely be a gov shutdown.”

That merely includes payments for military personnel, military contractors, national defense generally, veteran’s benefits, along with social security, medicare and all government employees. It wouldn’t be pretty.


54 posted on 07/31/2011 2:06:31 PM PDT by juno67
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guess they can’t read.


55 posted on 07/31/2011 2:08:29 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: donhunt
How did this country end up with so many stupid people?

Stupidity is free.

56 posted on 07/31/2011 2:32:58 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Cheerio
From Aristotle's Politics Book V:

"The best laws, though sanctioned by every citizen of the state, will be of no avail unless the young are trained by habit and education in the spirit of the constitution."

57 posted on 07/31/2011 3:12:20 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I wonder if a Federal court would enjoin Obama? Who would buy a debt issue subject to a legal challenge?
58 posted on 07/31/2011 3:18:48 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: KC_Lion

I know a guy who has been on unemployment a good 2 years now (and keeps getting extensions).

And told me he is “getting comfortable” being on unemployment.

What is happening is that unemployment has become welfare payments. And he is now comfortable being a Govt dependent. I would not be surprised if he stops being a moderate conservative and becomes a Democrat.


59 posted on 07/31/2011 3:20:37 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Obama, the most corrupt and incompetent President since Carter.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Section 5

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Any action by the President will be unconstitutional, according to the 14th amendment of the Constitution, which the CBC apparently has never actually read.

60 posted on 07/31/2011 3:28:24 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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