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1 posted on 07/31/2011 1:04:42 PM PDT by Jerrybob
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http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html


2 posted on 07/31/2011 1:05:04 PM PDT by Jerrybob
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Excellent!

(Geez, that's a big pile...)

3 posted on 07/31/2011 1:06:51 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Jerrybob

One trillion seconds is about 32,000 years. I billion seconds is about 32 years which is another good analogy.


6 posted on 07/31/2011 1:13:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Jerrybob

One Trillion Dollars



Our Debt .. Sitting Beside Lady Liberty

8 posted on 07/31/2011 1:33:18 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: FReepers
November 2006 .....8.5 Trillion Democrats win over Congress
January 2007 ........8.7 Trillion Democrats in charge of Congress
November 2007 .....9 Trillion
January 2008 .........9.2 Trillion
November 2008 ....10.5 Trillion Democrats & Obama in Control
January 2009 .........10.6 Trillion
January 2010 .........12.3 Trillion
November 2010 .....13.7 Trillion Republicans win over US House
January 2011 .........14 Trillion Republicans control US House
July 2011 ...............14.3 Trillion

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9 posted on 07/31/2011 1:33:55 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Jerrybob

congress can pee away these enormous amounts of money because it is not theirs. In fact the more they spend, the more that comes back to them in their ‘commissions’ (campaign contributions, graft, etc.). We ought to have a system that establishes a baseline, say 2008, and for every 100 billion congress spends over that, they lose 10% of their compensation and for every $100 billion they shave off of that, they get a 10% raise.


10 posted on 07/31/2011 1:41:01 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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In a few months – possibly sooner – it could look like this.

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11 posted on 07/31/2011 1:45:06 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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To: Jerrybob
Here is another excellent discussion, embedded in the following xerpt from a 31-year-old book :

See if any of it sounds familiar today, only worse than then. Multiply everything by 7 and if you can stay away from the vodka, you are a better man than I am.

One chink in the armor of any democracy is that, when the Plebs discover that they can vote themselves Bread & Circuses, they usually do . . . right up to the day there is neither bread nor circuses. At that point they often start lynching the senators, congressmen, bankers, tax collectors, Jews, grocers, foreigners, any minority-take your choice. For they know that they [themselves] didn’t do it. The citizen is sovereign until it comes to accepting blame for his sovereign acts then he demands a scapegoat.

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Social Security taxes go into the general fund and are spent. If Social Security were in fact insurance (the basis on which the gimmick was sold to us by FDR’s “New Deal”), the receipts would be segregated and invested and not shown as income . . . OR a competent insurance actuary with staff would calculate the commitment and it would show in the National Public Debt.
The fact that a debt is amortized over the years doesn’t stop it from being a debt. It was an amortized mortgage that got me into this racket. The prospect of years and years of future monthly payments spoiled my sleep.

The only way the Government can go on paying Social “Security” to my generation is by taxing you young people more and more heavily. . . and each year there are more and more old people and fewer and fewer young people. It won’t help to run the printing presses faster; that causes food to rise in price, rents to go up, etc. - and people over 65 start putting pressure on Congress... and there’s an election coming up. (There’s always an election coming up.)

I use the term “Federal Public Debt” because what is usually termed the “Public Debt” is by no means our total public debt. There are also state, county, city, and special-district debts. It is difficult to get accurate figures on these public debts but the total appears to be larger than the Federal Public Debt. I can’t make even a wild guess at the Social Security commitment but our total public promises-to-pay have to exceed two trillion dollars.

How much is a trillion? Well, it means that a baby born today owes at least $4,347.83 to the Federal Government alone before his eyes open. (No wonder he yells). It means that the Zero Population Growth family (who was going to save us all-remember?) of father, mother, and 2.1 children owes $17,826 in addition to private debts (mortgage, automobile, college for 2.1 children).
Of course papa won’t pay it off; that debt will grow larger. But it will cost him $2000 a year (and rising) just to “service” his pro-rata; any taxes for which he getsanything at all-even more laws-is on top of that.

A trillion seconds is 31,688 years, 9 months, 5 days, 8 hours, 6 minutes, and 42 seconds - long enough for the precession of the equinoxes to make Vega the Pole Star, swing back again to Polaris, and go on past to Alpha Cephei. Or counting the other way it would take us to 29,708 B.C.. . . or more than 25 thousand years before Creation by Bishop Usher’s chronology for creationism.
I don’t understand a trillion dollars any better than I do a trillion seconds. I simply know that we had better stop spending money we don’t have if we want to avoid that Man on Horseback.

But I don’t think we will stop “deficit financing,” the euphemism that sounds so much better than “kiting checks.” You may have noticed that 1970 figure for public employees (not my extrapolation for 1980, but the official 1970 figures straight from theUnited States Bureau of the Census).
That figure does not include the Armed Forces. It does not include some special categories. It is easier to learn the number of slaves imported in 1769 (6,736) than it is to find out exactly how many people are on public payrolls in this country. And it is not simply difficult but impossible to determine how many people receive Federal checks for which they perform no services. (Or food stamps. Are food stamps money?) But one thing is certain: the number of people eligible to vote who do receive money from some unit of government (aid to dependent children, Supreme Court justices, not growing wheat, removing garbage, governors of states, whoever) exceeds the number eligible to vote but receiving no pay or subsidy of any sort from any unit of government.

Have you read the Federal Register lately? Have you ever read the Federal Register? Under powers delegated by Congress certain appointed officials can publish a new regulation in the Federal Register and, if Congress does not stop it, after a prescribed waiting time, that regulation has the force of law-it is law, [usually forever,] to you and to me, although a lawyer sees nuances. I have vastly oversimplified this description, but my only purpose is to point out that “administrative law” reaches into every corner of our lives, and is the major factor in the enormous and strangling invasion of the Federal Government into our private affairs.
I can’t see anything in the Constitution that permits the Congress to delegate its power to pass laws.. . but the Supreme Court says it’s okay and that makes my opinion worthless.

I’m stopping. There are endless other gloomy things to discuss-the oil shortage, the power shortage (not the same thing), pollution, population pressure, a projected change in climate that can and probably will turn the problems of population and food into sudden and extreme crisis, crime in the streets and bankrupt cities, our incredible plunge from the most respected nation on Earth to the most despised (but we are nonetheless expected to pick up the tab). Bill Gresham was right but he told only half of it: you not only don’t get rich peddling gloom; it isn’t any fun.

So now come with me- “OVER THE RAINBOW-“

Over The Rainbow is a section of the Chapter, The Happy Days Ahead from the Robert Heinlein book, Expanded Universe, which discusses, among other things, predictions made in 1950 and revisited in 1980. Heinlein got a lot wrong, but a few, like the excerpt in this thread, was (is) spot on.

12 posted on 07/31/2011 1:50:35 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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13 posted on 07/31/2011 1:54:29 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Jerrybob
What does One Trillion Dollars Look Like?

It looks like it'll get spent in a couple months...

14 posted on 07/31/2011 2:19:14 PM PDT by mikrofon (Astronomical Fact: To the Gov't, a $6T budget is a "light year".)
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To: Jerrybob

Yea, people have trouble visualizing the kind of money we’re talking about here. For example you could also do the following with a billion dollars:

1) Buy every household a new car (small one, but new)
2) Buy at least 100 aircraft carriers and the jets to go with them (we have 11 in service now)
3) Pay the energy bill for the United States for 1 year
4) Build 10,000,000 new homes to house the Illegals
5) Tear up every Interstate Highway and rebuild from the dirt up (including the bridges)
6) Pay the cost of everyone driving on the toll roads around Austin for 5 years*
7) Fly 1000 Space Shuttle missions (if it were still flying); 7 times the total number that actually flew
8) Build at least 2000 B-2 Bombers
9) Pay everyone’s mortgage for a year
10) Build 200 nuclear reactors, essentially tripling our count...and having nuclear provide over half of our power.
(*had to take that stab at Perry)

It is very difficult to visualize the kind of money that we’re spending, but don’t have...not to mention our debt. I hope this helps a bit. So look at the list above and then think about what we got when Obama spent his trillion dollar wad.


16 posted on 07/31/2011 2:58:54 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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strangely enough, $1 trillion over 10 years looks amazingly like $100 billion in a single year

even more awe inspiring is the reduction... from $4.5 trillion to $4.4 trillion, with receipts of $2 trillion.

yup... wish i could spend $250k while only making $100k... and expect my debts to go down


20 posted on 07/31/2011 3:54:41 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Jerrybob

It would take 10 Milky Way Galaxies to add up to a trillion stars.


22 posted on 07/31/2011 4:24:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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The U.S. National Debt

As of June 29, 2011, the total U.S. national debt outstanding has reached $14.46 trillion dollars.

Two years in March, 2009 the U.S. national debt hit $11 trillion dollars.

Below is an image showing what the 2009 U.S. national debt of $11 trillion dollars looks like in $100 dollar bills.

Ten pallets loaded with $100 dollar bills contain $1 billion dollars.

Each layer of pallets in the following image contains 5,000 pallets (50 wide by 100 deep).
Each layer of 5,000 pallets of $100 dollar bills equals $500 billon dollars.
Two layers of pallets contain 10,000 pallets holding a total of $1 trillion dollars.

As of June 29, 2011, the total U.S. national debt outstanding has reached $14.46 trillion dollars.
That represents about 98.6% of calendar year 2010's annual gross domestic product (GDP) of $14.66 trillion dollars.

To visualize that amount, imagine 7 more layers, each with 5,000 pallets, sitting on top of the pile in the image below.

Image showing what $11 trillion dollars in $100 dollar bills looks like.


23 posted on 07/31/2011 4:56:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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