Congress to decide whether Super Congress could impose gun control

http://gunowners.org ^ | Monday, 01 August 2011 12:07 | GOA

[mcshot]

I can’t go fishing anymore for fear of snagging guns lost in boating accidents. /S

[mcshot]

That factor is one of my big concerns “should the political winds” shift and fan blades start chopping solids.
Waco and Ruby Ridge made that perfectly clear with frequent swat team reminders.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

‘He stated this as a fact and that it will happen.’

How on earth would the Judge know? He is not somebody with a particular knowledge of Congress, his expertise is in other areas.

[Hawthorn]

>> This committee really has no power above and beyond that of the legislature as a whole <<

Hey, Calex, would you please stop trying to spoil our elegant conspiracy theory? The commenters on this thread were really having more fun than a barrel of monkeys until spoil-sports like you started pouring cold water all over us!

[ArrogantBustard]

[MayflowerMadam]

Uh! That photo haunts me still. I hope the guy behind the gun has done the honorable thing and committed suicide by now. Disgraceful that a picture such of that could be shot in America.

[PalmettoMason]

Drawn too many lines in the sand already.

Let’s get ready to rumble!

I feel the same way, BUT...

...The moment someone actually takes action to defend their 2nd Amendment Rights or their home, the entire conservative world ESPECIALLY most of those here at FR) will distance themselves from them. They will be condemned as a "nutcase", and a whole lot of other nasty names. Nobody will want to be associated with them.

Then the bootlickers will chime in, applauding the way our guy was gunned down in his own home, with the selector lever on his weapon still on "safe".

My point is that one or two guys ain't going to get it done.

What each of us needs to do is every morning, slap a full magazine in the evil black rifle and walk out on the front porch. If you neighbor to your right, and your neighbor to your left aren't standing there also... today ain't the day.

But hopefully, one day, it WILL be the day.

[skinkinthegrass]

“You won’t need the 2nd amendment until
they try to take it away from you.” Jefferson

The Republic, Is really dead....
This "Budget Deal" was our Final step
in the Federal Republic's downfall.
rem: Hilter's "rise to Power."

[MrB]

I happen to know that we’ll survive until the end of next year.
That’s when I’ll have everything implemented in order to “drop out”.

[skinkinthegrass]

Will you let the feds cross yet another line in the sand?

they just crossed it.
Jean N., Just announced [1 p.m._Fox] NEW Federal efforts
to "Help" local methods, to "control" ANY kind of extremists.
(rem: her/ 'Rats' previous comments about TEA Party)

[Gator113]

We were close~~ again, but when the market went to heck last week and this week, it set us back.

Regardless, we will still make adjustments and get by.

I believe we are in for another large wave of layoffs around the country, a downgrade in national credit and at that point, all hell is going to break lose.

On the upside....... I am the oldest of 6 brats (may mom & dad RIP). We were a dirt poor family, so I know what it is to be poor and I know that it is survivable.

The best thing I could have ever done was buy this property in the country, on a mountain and away from other folks. ;>)

[ronnyquest]

There it is. Isolate and destroy.

[ronnyquest]

"I happen to know that we’ll survive until the end of next year. That’s when I’ll have everything implemented in order to “drop out”."

LOL, good luck with that. It's going to be an interesting 18 months.

[stockpirate]

I like my quote too:

“A people unwilling to use extreme violent force to preserve or obtain their liberty deserves the tyrants that rule them.”

“When the people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have liberty.” Jefferson

[MrB]

The circumstances under which these things are coming to pass in my family’s life are nothing short of Divine Providence. That’s why I have the confidence that God will allow me to get everything in place before TSHTF.

[longtermmemmory]

fail to act as the super unelected congress DICTATES and presto, the dictator decides the cuts and tax increases.

[Phlyer]

The factor you don't seem to be discussing is whether the Congress as a whole can modify the committee 'recommendations' or only accept/reject them. An up or down vote just means they don't get tabled, not that they can't be amended.

If they can be amended or modified without enacting the triggers, then your position that the power remains with the Congress as a whole is valid. If the only choices Congress as a whole faces are to accept the recommendations as written, or to accept draconian cuts in Defense and cuts in payments to health care providers, then Congress will almost certainly have to accept the Committee's decisions, which gives them enormous power.

On the "7 votes" thing I expect it's intended to preclude 'dark of the night' meetings of a portion of the committee who declare a decision based on a majority of a subset which is not a majority of the whole committee. Absent members or 'present' votes amount to a no vote. The bit about including at least one member from each party does appear to be redundant.

Regardless of current intentions from Boehner and Cantor, you can bet that the Committee is going to have members who intend otherwise. This Committee is certainly going to be recommending tax increases because that's all the Dims wll allow. Reid has said so. If the Republican's balk, then the triggers are invoked.

One of the real signs of how badly Boehner was outmaneuvered on this is that both triggers benefit the Dims. They'd love to see defense totally gutted in favor of their international socialist agenda, and if Medicare payments are cut, then it won't be long before health care providers decline Medicare patients. Reports of that will bring a renewed demand for socialized medicine. (Even though the 'public option' is just Medicare extended to everyone, which means health-care providers *still* won't be getting paid.)