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Federal officials investigate (six golden) eagle deaths at DWP wind farm
Los Angeles Times ^ | 8/3/11 | Louis Sahagun

Posted on 08/03/2011 9:06:44 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Federal authorities are investigating the deaths of at least six golden eagles at the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power's Pine Tree Wind Project in the Tehachapi Mountains, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said Tuesday.

So far, no wind-energy company has been prosecuted by federal wildlife authorities in connection with the death of birds protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act and the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act. A prosecution in the Pine Tree case could cause some rethinking and redesigning of this booming alternative energy source. Facilities elsewhere also have been under scrutiny, according to a federal official familiar with the investigations.

"Wind farms have been killing birds for decades and law enforcement has done nothing about it, so this investigation is long overdue," said Shawn Smallwood, an expert on raptor ecology and wind farms. "It's going to ruffle wind industry feathers across the country."

Wildlife Service spokeswoman Lois Grunwald declined to comment on what she described as "an ongoing law enforcement investigation regarding Pine Tree."

Joe Ramallo, a DWP spokesman, said, "We are very concerned about golden eagle mortalities that have occurred at Pine Tree. We have been working cooperatively and collaboratively with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the California Department of Fish and Game to investigate these incidents.

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Time to give wind power the 'bird'?
1 posted on 08/03/2011 9:06:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Someone painted rabbits on the blades.

(I’m in so much trouble now...)


2 posted on 08/03/2011 9:09:43 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: NormsRevenge; Carlucci; Little Bill; Desdemona; Nipfan; carolinablonde; marvlus; DollyCali; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 08/03/2011 9:10:03 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s time for environmentalists to stand up for birds and go against wind farms. They are a travesty on the landscape. Plus, do they even work...


4 posted on 08/03/2011 9:11:29 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

They do work...on cutting up eagles.


5 posted on 08/03/2011 9:12:40 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: NormsRevenge

“...booming alternative energy source.”

Booming? Only because of loony libs. When we all realize it hardly is efficient (too much “cost” for too little return), it won’t be booming.

“Wind farms have been killing birds for decades and law enforcement has done nothing about it, so this investigation is long overdue,” said Shawn Smallwood, an expert on raptor ecology and wind farms. “It’s going to ruffle wind industry feathers across the country.”

*****SCHADENFREUDE**** (I love liberals battling liberals)


6 posted on 08/03/2011 9:12:55 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: RadiationRomeo

I want to see a solar panel fry a liberal.


7 posted on 08/03/2011 9:13:29 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
No, they do not even work, it's still way cheaper to do coal, nat. gas, etc. to energy.

It's all a scam riding on the slimy back of enviro-political insiders.

8 posted on 08/03/2011 9:14:41 AM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
"Plus, do they even work..."

Actually, not really. For example, Texas leads the nation in wind energy. During August, one of the hottest months in Texas, the wind farms in total operate at about 5%-10% capacity due to a lack of wind -- when they are most needed to produce energy.

9 posted on 08/03/2011 9:16:09 AM PDT by avacado
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To: NormsRevenge

I think I’m going to go spread dead birds underneath any windmills I can find. Would that be eco-terrorism?


10 posted on 08/03/2011 9:17:39 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: NormsRevenge

Only in Taxifornia. The mindless libs scream for alternative energy then they find this kind of reason to not have it. They don’t say anything about the millions of fish being killed by the pumps that steal the water from the north state and pump it down to the “foreigners” in the Los Angeles area....the Taxifornia Delta is being destroyed ecologically by these same liberal fools (the south state votes heavily DemoRat) all for votes at the bottom line.

The state is financially dead, like the country in general, but not with the record setting numbers that the DemoRats have run up in Taxifornia. This once was a great state when it was run by responsible, caring conservatives -— not a bunch of vote-pandering, power-crazy liberals.


11 posted on 08/03/2011 9:18:05 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: max americana
Speakin' of so'liar panels, in NJ some insider got a contract to put one on every telephone pole @ $1000 to $2000 each.

We'll never make that money back, and they wonder why we're broke (don't even get me started on the totally unneeded billion dollar international port being built).

12 posted on 08/03/2011 9:18:56 AM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good ridance, they arenn’t anything but prehistoric vultures that should have died out thousands of years ago!!!


13 posted on 08/03/2011 9:19:29 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: avacado

They knew before building these things that it would kill off the birds! We’re talking golden eagles, not frogs or tiny fish. Double standard rides again.


14 posted on 08/03/2011 9:19:35 AM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Birds? oh... nevermind.


15 posted on 08/03/2011 9:20:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://www.dialight.com/Assets/Application_Notes/Signaling/Obstruction%20Lighting%20Bird%20Strike%20Study.pdf


16 posted on 08/03/2011 9:22:17 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: max americana

Find an old (big) satellite dish receiver.
Mirrorize the interior surface.
Point it at any liberal passing by to the south of you...

Of course, they have to pass through the focal point, but perhaps you could bait it. Put a copy of “Rules for Radicals” or “Mother Jones” on the ground in front of it.


17 posted on 08/03/2011 9:22:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: max americana; de.rm; avacado

18 posted on 08/03/2011 9:26:41 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: NormsRevenge

Green tyrany.. any body get a clue on Gore and the consequences of “climate change” BS yet?

Martha Martha Martha... and the tyranny of the PC “perfect” little idiots of America, as if there were not other worthier endeavors or MEANS to a good end by good means.


19 posted on 08/03/2011 9:29:24 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: NormsRevenge

Will Biden call Power’s Pine Tree Wind Project “eco-terrorists” ?


20 posted on 08/03/2011 9:32:45 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: JudgemAll

The true believers are completely denying that any of the recent evidence in any way invalidates the theory of man made global warming / climate change.


21 posted on 08/03/2011 9:34:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: NormsRevenge

By killing off the eagles and other raptors the rodent population increases. If you have a windmill farm in your area you will have more rats and mice on your property.


22 posted on 08/03/2011 9:35:43 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just wait - someone will get a $500 million grant to determine what to put on signs that birds will understand.

THEN $2 Trillion to erect signs warning the birds of the danger...


23 posted on 08/03/2011 9:38:09 AM PDT by DelaWhere (Better to be prepared one year early than one day late!)
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To: DelaWhere

Where I live the wind farms are killing bats by the thousands, in fact, within two years they believe a few species local to our area will go extinct. There are sometimes 100’s dead at the base of just one when they check.


24 posted on 08/03/2011 9:39:46 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: forgotten man
So , in the future history books will reveal how the windmills lead to the new great plague.

We need a new Pied Piper.

25 posted on 08/03/2011 9:42:06 AM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: de.rm; All

What MORON told Obama that buying Chinese-made windmills was ‘Stimulus’?

They don’t run at temps over 90 degrees, they could burn out in the heat...
They don’t run when it’s too COLD...
They don’t run if the wind is gusting over 38MPH...
They don’t run if there is no wind above 7MPH...
They don’t run in icing conditions...
They don’t run during storms...

The BEST Purdue University has been able to get out of the HUGE, federally-subsidized White County Wind Farm is LESS THAN 30% Efficiency..
30 FREAKIN’ PERCENT EFFICIENCY!!!

And they cannot provide CONSISTENT 60hz electricity to the grid.


26 posted on 08/03/2011 9:42:45 AM PDT by tcrlaf (PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMISTS FOR OBAMA2012!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Shut it down - for the birds.


27 posted on 08/03/2011 9:44:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: tcrlaf
These elected pirates simply put their finger to the wind and shovel our money to their friends in that direction.

They'll do it forever until a shovel is put to them.

28 posted on 08/03/2011 9:48:46 AM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: NormsRevenge

later


29 posted on 08/03/2011 9:50:09 AM PDT by quintr
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah, they have to investigate the REEEEEEEEEAAAAAALLLLY important things, like a bunch of worthless birds getting killed, because that’s a SERIOUS crime...

But....

Something minor and inconsequential like US FedGoon agencies with the full knowledge and blessing of the White House ad the DOJ smuggling American semi-auto firearms across the border into Mexico, and American law enforcement agents getting murdered by those same guns - all for the express purpose of undermining our Constitutional right -

Nah....Not so much.


30 posted on 08/03/2011 9:51:33 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: MrB

Indeed, there is something very suspiciously prosecutorial and arbitrarily incriminalizing in that climate change so clean perfect and “professional” cult.

It’s like the worship of the gods of beauties in Greek times, but without the real worth of the Temples or the folkes in them.

These people are a joke.

At least back then, to belong to the Temples, was voluntary and a personal decision of who to ask for for help on this or that day, as God ordains it.

No, not with these know it all control freaks who only want to be prettied up as if they were the demigods of said temples, giving a rat’s arse to the actual cause, if it were there, Gore style.


31 posted on 08/03/2011 9:52:44 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: NormsRevenge
Wrong headline, should be, inbreeding produces nearsigned eagles.
32 posted on 08/03/2011 9:54:46 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Wrong headline, should be, inbreeding produces nearsigned eagles.
33 posted on 08/03/2011 9:55:47 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: de.rm

Actually it’s riding on the backs of tax payers.....


34 posted on 08/03/2011 10:05:59 AM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: NormsRevenge
I have heard that an eagle can see a mouse on the ground at a quarter of a mile. Some of you are worse than the envro whack jobs. Let's stop logging over the spotted owl. Damn get a grip people!!!!!
35 posted on 08/03/2011 10:08:11 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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36 posted on 08/03/2011 10:08:30 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

We just drove from Northwest Florida to Salt Lake City. During the third day of the drive we were in Kansas and I saw an area with a whole bunch of these ugly windmills. A little while later, we passed an area that had several oil wells pumping away. I couldn’t help noting that the windmills dominated the landscape while the oil wells were almost unobtrusive. I also figured one of those oil wells probably produced as much or more energy than the whole batch of windmill monstrosities we had just passed.


37 posted on 08/03/2011 10:19:13 AM PDT by saminfl
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To: NormsRevenge

38 posted on 08/03/2011 10:25:58 AM PDT by frithguild (RINO's are more damaging than hard lefties.)
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To: forgotten man
If you have a windmill farm in your area you will have more rats and mice on your property

Feral cat populations will increase, causing a greater incidence of Toxoplasma gondii transmitted to hmans, causing more mental illness and therfore more liberals. See how it works?

39 posted on 08/03/2011 10:35:21 AM PDT by frithguild (RINO's are more damaging than hard lefties.)
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To: NormsRevenge
More of those unintended consequences? Or are they 'unexpected' consequences now?

If the choice was mine, I'd choose golden eagles and coal and nuke power plants over bird killing, money wasting, unsightly windmills.

But what would I know, I'm just a conservative for conservation who likes the cost effective use of our resources, including energy.

40 posted on 08/03/2011 10:53:10 AM PDT by GBA
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s good to see some good news for a change. Not that I’m glad the eagles died (I don’t really care) I’m just glad wind machines killed them.


41 posted on 08/03/2011 11:05:44 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Costeau tested a vertical stack on a boat instead of sails. The stack had a turbine in it and took advantage of the wind from any direction. These instead of windmills would seem to be the way to go.


42 posted on 08/03/2011 11:06:15 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

On I-40 between OKC and Texas there are so many of them. The whole landscape is ruined. Where you once had peaceful farm land, you have thousands of hideous machines. I don’t know if anyone is getting any energy from them, I’m not.


43 posted on 08/03/2011 11:08:03 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: de.rm

Don’t land owners get paid pretty good for parking one of those hunks of junk on their property?


44 posted on 08/03/2011 11:09:49 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Don’t only shut it down for the birds. The workers have sore elbows.

http://www.slideshare.net/vtsiri/osha-wind-farms


45 posted on 08/03/2011 11:18:23 AM PDT by Spokane (Palin 2012: Change you'll be begging for...)
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To: RadiationRomeo
Someone painted rabbits on the blades.

LOL!

46 posted on 08/03/2011 11:36:27 AM PDT by American Quilter (aka American Hobbit)
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To: max americana
They do work...on cutting up eagles.

And for producing tiny amounts of electricity at high expense.

47 posted on 08/03/2011 11:37:36 AM PDT by American Quilter (aka American Hobbit)
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To: demshateGod
On I-40 between OKC and Texas there are so many of them. The whole landscape is ruined. Where you once had peaceful farm land, you have thousands of hideous machines. I don’t know if anyone is getting any energy from them, I’m not.

I live out in the beautful countryside, and a neighbor down the road installed a smaller one in his yard. I asked him if he's seeing a reduction in his electric bill, and he said he won't know for a few years.

???

48 posted on 08/03/2011 11:38:23 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: frithguild
Feral cat populations will increase, causing a greater incidence of Toxoplasma gondii transmitted to hmans, causing more mental illness and therfore more liberals. See how it works?

LOL! So THAT'S how it happens.

49 posted on 08/03/2011 11:42:57 AM PDT by American Quilter (aka American Hobbit)
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To: NormsRevenge

I predict a new police drama. Law and Order BVU. (Bird Victims Unit)


50 posted on 08/03/2011 11:44:42 AM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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