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9 commanders for China's first aircraft carrier
Shanghai Daily.com ^
| 2011-8-6
| Yang Jian
Posted on 08/05/2011 9:06:43 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
It can only carry 30 aircraft?, seems a little on the low side to me. Doesn't it have an elevator with more planes below deck?
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posted on
08/05/2011 9:13:21 PM PDT
by
Husker24
To: sukhoi-30mki
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posted on
08/05/2011 9:14:25 PM PDT
by
MARTIAL MONK
(I'm waiting for the POP!)
To: Husker24
It can only carry 30 aircraft?, seems a little on the low side to me. Doesn't it have an elevator with more planes below deck?Sounds more like pocket carrier than anything else.
To: Husker24
She has two L’s and Lady Lex(Essex Class Training Carrier) was able to carry more planes than this into the 1990’s.
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posted on
08/05/2011 9:23:12 PM PDT
by
Trueblackman
(Posting on FR since 1998 and 100% teleprompter free post as well.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Chain of command must be a bitch.
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posted on
08/05/2011 9:26:42 PM PDT
by
doc1019
(You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
To: Husker24
The other 2 are/will be full sized.
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posted on
08/05/2011 9:37:45 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: Husker24
There are two issues with small carriers that go hand in hand. Deck size limits the number of aircraft you can have on deck during recoveries. That small number also limits your ability to simultaneously strike targets and defend your battle group.
The current big boats of the U.S. Navy have a normal compliment of approx. 90 aircraft with a majority of those on deck. That allows a U.S. boat to launch 25-30 aircraft on a regular launch and to run cyclic operations for 12 hours on a normal "we aren't working that hard" pace.
This little Chinese boat is going to have at most 20 aircraft on deck and most likely will have to pretty much shoot the whole deck and wait for it to recover, refuel and reload, before launching again. They will also pretty much be limited to a small strike with little or no CAP, or just air defense. They basically need 10 parked with an empty ramp to park recovering aircraft in while leaving the landing area clear. I don't think they will have the deck space to do what we do, recovering an aircraft every 35-45 seconds in the day time, and every 60 seconds at night.
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posted on
08/05/2011 9:39:49 PM PDT
by
USNBandit
(sarcasm engaged at all times)
To: doc1019
Varyag being towed from Ukraine to China, passing through Istanbul (Constantinople)
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posted on
08/05/2011 9:42:14 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: GeronL
It’s look just screams “soviet”.
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posted on
08/05/2011 9:58:51 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
I think a good name for their new carrier would be. Sank So Sune.
To: magslinger
To: Secret Agent Man
Its look just screams soviet.
Can't imagine why.
(hint: The Varyag, a vessel bought from Ukraine in 1998...)
To: GeronL
It seems to be riding pretty high. Only 30 aircraft, POL and munitions, are going to settle it that far?
Doesn't even have a full complement of electronics. I wonder if what Clinton sold them is going to be enough.
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posted on
08/05/2011 11:21:21 PM PDT
by
jonascord
(Politicians should be pelted with human manure, weekly, to remind them of their worth to society.)
To: GeronL
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posted on
08/06/2011 12:21:57 AM PDT
by
Greysard
To: sukhoi-30mki
never saw this coming
they’re going to ramp up their blue water experience as fast as possible
then come out with 50-100 carrier groups
it’s china. that’s how they play
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posted on
08/06/2011 12:30:44 AM PDT
by
sten
(fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
To: Husker24
It can only carry 30 aircraft?, seems a little on the low side to me. Doesn't it have an elevator with more planes below deck? Other way round. Most nations operate an air wing size that can be completely struck down into the hanger. 30 is about right for a 67,000 ton ship. (A Nimitz hanger normally holds only 45)
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posted on
08/06/2011 1:18:45 AM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
To: jonascord
That picture is from before it reached China, they’ve had years to fix it up
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posted on
08/06/2011 1:31:40 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: Greysard
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posted on
08/06/2011 1:32:42 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: sukhoi-30mki
When the refitting work is complete, China will then become the last of the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council and the 10th country in the world that owns an aircraft carrier. No, it will become the "last of the five TO OWN an aircraft carrier".
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