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Dozens Killed as NATO Helicopter Shot Down in Afghanistan
New York Times ^ | 6 August 2011 | By RAY RIVERA and ALISSA J. RUBIN

Posted on 08/06/2011 2:21:16 AM PDT by BlackVeil

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To: BlackVeil
CentComm doesn't seem to have much more info yet. I imagine they are still cleaning up and working notifications.

0 fiddles while soldiers die needlessly.

Best wishes to the families.

41 posted on 08/06/2011 5:45:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: LeoWindhorse

Arc Light.


42 posted on 08/06/2011 5:48:42 AM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Just end this. If your not going to fight to win, just end it and bring all our men home.

My feelings exactly. Why are we wasting precious American blood on a bunch of savages (both inside and outside the Afghan government) who don't want us there? We can't stay forever, and whenever we do pull out, they'll just go back to an islamist government anyway. All we're doing right now is delaying the inevitable.

F 'em.




43 posted on 08/06/2011 5:50:22 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: risen_feenix
Sadly a lucky placement with ah heavy machine gun can bring any helo down. Small arms ground fire is a problem in insertions. Remember Helos aren't even suppose to fly. One with two rotors is twice as bad. I live close to a base with Chinooks stationed at it. They are big and slow. One from this unit was shot down a few years ago with the loss of the crew. Hit us hard here, I would previously see them at the local eatery on a regular basis.
44 posted on 08/06/2011 5:56:28 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: BlackVeil
I feel sick. Waiting to hear from dear family friend who's son is SF over there.
45 posted on 08/06/2011 5:58:27 AM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I was watching the showtime series (reruns ) of the Borgia’s last night. A cardinal was asking the king of France to move militarily on Italy, especially Rome.

The French King talked about war saying “ War is ugly, are you sure you want me to do that? War is about power against power, not some knights riding on pretty horses jousting and then going home. Its about one side destroying the other side, bringing them to destruction and either completly wiping them out or gaining total power over them.”

Since when did we start going to “war” with ROE? That is a lost cause. And especially with these mideval Muslims...they only understand power..

Let our military fight with Street Rules and fight a “WAR” and we will win! Dresden and Hiroshima were leveled. No ROE’s then.
( er, isn’t that what war is about? Winning? )


46 posted on 08/06/2011 5:58:42 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: armymarinemom

Get them all the hell out of that country. You cannot drag it into this century. Leave. The Russians paid a terrible price. It is not worth one more American.


47 posted on 08/06/2011 6:02:28 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: BlackVeil

-O,bummer can’t be wakened from his Hip Hop barbecue
Hangover- they will mention it later-

As a further note:

1. O’bummer is sad that he can’t do a photo op with these
soldiers.

2. but he is happy that he lost another bunch of conservative voters-

( I know -flame me for being non PC)


48 posted on 08/06/2011 6:02:54 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: Cardhu

“President Hamid Karzai’s office says.”

Our troops demise is broken to the American people by the corrupt president of Afghanistan.


49 posted on 08/06/2011 6:03:37 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: LeoWindhorse

“Huge Huge loss .....time for pay back”

Not in husseins realm. He wouldn’t want to offend the islamopigs. He HATES the US and the forces that should be here protecting our borders.


50 posted on 08/06/2011 6:06:58 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
er, isn’t that what war is about? Winning?

Not for you or me. What does the American people get out the Af/Pak/Iraq Forever War. Nothing but a trillion dollar bill and a lot of heartache. War is a tool of the PTB. Its about social engineering, population control, restricting resources, and making the world safe for usury.

51 posted on 08/06/2011 6:25:55 AM PDT by Roninf5-1
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To: Roninf5-1

Interesting perspective...We don’t disagree really.

My comment is that we should at least be honest about why we are going to war and “win’. but then I know I am more naive than you to think that if we want certain things our policies will be clear.


52 posted on 08/06/2011 6:30:03 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: BlackVeil

Deep and fervent prayers for the families and friends of those who have fallen, and for God’s protection over all of our troops in battle.


53 posted on 08/06/2011 6:32:12 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: BlackVeil

May God provide rest for these American heroes, and may their families be surrounded by the love of God, of friends, and of our nation.

Their sacrifice is testimony to the reality that the only way to honor their blood is for this nation to severely punish the Taliban by cutting off its head and then return home. After all, this was a Congressional reprisal-like action and not a declared war.


54 posted on 08/06/2011 6:36:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

The lowest of Grunts, FNG’s or POG’s.
This our blood.
The pain is the same.

Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.


55 posted on 08/06/2011 6:37:37 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: freeangel

If I were president, which of course I am not as I don’t have a race card, the B-52s would be flying non stop arclight missions over that area for the next week in expanding concentric circles. After I was sure all the “non combantants” had been removed, I’d nuke the place.


56 posted on 08/06/2011 6:40:46 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
The state-run media, by not referring to them as US military, is also seeking to divert attention to that fact, to cover Obammie the Commie’s bony ass.

I think it is also the left's attempt to portray our troops as nothing special by lumping them into one world "NATO" forces, rather than I.D. them as US troops.
57 posted on 08/06/2011 6:41:07 AM PDT by Boris99
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To: Kozak

YES!


58 posted on 08/06/2011 6:43:26 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: oldironsides
Get them all the hell out of that country. You cannot drag it into this century. Leave. The Russians paid a terrible price. It is not worth one more American.

That isn't up to me. I am sick of the sick ROE's but being the Mom of a Fort Hood soldier I'm sicker of the dangerous PC behavior of our commanders.

59 posted on 08/06/2011 6:45:46 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: silverleaf

Pls see #55.


60 posted on 08/06/2011 6:46:37 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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