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A Trick of the Mind: Looking for patterns in life and then infusing them with meaning, from alien...
Reason ^ | August 2, 2011 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 08/06/2011 5:51:20 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/06/2011 5:51:24 PM PDT by neverdem
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Statement: "Superstitions arise as the result of the spurious identification of patterns. Even pigeons are superstitious. In an experiment where food is delivered randomly, pigeons will note what they were doing when the pellet arrived, such as twirling to the left and then pecking a button, and perform the maneuver over and over until the next pellet arrives. A pigeon rain dance."

Response: It is(or was) called "operant conditioning." It works for some behaviors but fails to work if a person knows it is being tried on him.

2 posted on 08/06/2011 6:05:24 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: neverdem

Statement: He doesn’t take religious faith seriously except as an object for explanatory debunking—God is simply the human explanation for pattern-making and agency on an epic scale.

More atheist crap on an epic scale.


3 posted on 08/06/2011 6:16:40 PM PDT by heights
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
In an experiment where food is delivered randomly, pigeons will note what they were doing when the pellet arrived, such as twirling to the left and then pecking a button, and perform the maneuver over and over until the next pellet arrives. A pigeon rain dance.

They at least understand the existence of cause and effect then.

4 posted on 08/06/2011 6:16:44 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: neverdem

Beliefs come first; reasons second.

So tell me, did Jesus Christ fulfill 365 proficies attributed to the Messiah, or not? Did He resurrect?

The answers to those two questions repudiates this entire article, and validates Psalms 14:1.


5 posted on 08/06/2011 6:34:57 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I often wonder why atheists are so loud and proud of being totally unaware of their spirit and it’s nature. How can one live in a human body and deny their own spirit?

Anyway, each to his own, but I would not want to be doing that to myself.


6 posted on 08/06/2011 6:39:41 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: neverdem
Shermer has inflated a mouse to the size of an elephant: Impressive but full of wind.

Our minds are attuned to patterns because patterns exist. The lion in the grass crawls and moves in a limited number of ways or patterns and learning how to see those patterns is a measure of training and experience not just a creation of a mind.

Someone wants to rehash a common phenomenon in the hopes of seeming novel and significant.

7 posted on 08/06/2011 6:55:40 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: neverdem

Everything has a pattern. That is a fact.


8 posted on 08/06/2011 7:03:56 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Ping


9 posted on 08/06/2011 7:23:06 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: heights
"Statement: He doesn’t take religious faith seriously except as an object for explanatory debunking—God is simply the human explanation for pattern-making and agency on an epic scale."

Problem for Mr. Shermer is that belief comes first for atheists too.

Somehow he overlooked that little problem.

I hate when that happens...

10 posted on 08/06/2011 7:27:04 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: SaraJohnson
"I often wonder why atheists are so loud and proud of being totally unaware of their spirit and it’s nature."

Unfortunately, Mr. Shermer just assumed that his premise that "Our brains tend to seek out information that confirms our beliefs, ignoring information that contradicts them" doesn't apply to his own beliefs.

Oops?

11 posted on 08/06/2011 7:29:45 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: neverdem

Zero hears a rustling in the grass ... raise taxes. Reid hears a rustling in the grass ... raise taxes. Pelosi hears a rustling in the grass ... raise taxes. So objectively we can categorically state with a modest degree of certainty that raising taxes is caused by a rustling in the grass or with an overwhelming degree of certainty that the Democratic leadership is composed of simpletons.


12 posted on 08/06/2011 7:38:13 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: GourmetDan

Yes. There is a lot of assumin’ goin’ on out there. LOL


13 posted on 08/06/2011 7:43:15 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: neverdem
"As a back-of-the-envelope calculation within an order-of-magnitude accuracy, we can safely say that over the past ten thousand years of history humans have created about ten thousand different religions and about one thousand gods," Mr. Shermer writes. He lists more than a dozen gods, from Amon Ra to Zeus, and wonders how one of them can be true and the rest false. "As skeptics like to say, everyone is an atheist about these gods; some of us just go one god further."

It apparently is Shermer's belief pattern to assume that these gods were "created" by people. But is it not more likely that the people are seeing lions in bushes where there are none because sometimes people have encountered actual lions? Nobody is afraid of an invisible pink unicorn in the bushes...because no one has encountered one. Now the idea that different people think of God or gods differently...well why the heck should that be a wonder? Such are experienced spiritually, by numinous experience, and are things beyond our comprehension...thus it is should not be surprising people come away with different stories.

This guy certainly sees only what he wants to see, and does not apply reason very well at all. But what else can an reasonable person expect from naturalism? A philosophy that demands super-hyper-skeptism of all competing philosophies and at the same time whole-sale knee jerk acceptance of itself.

What a fool...its pathetic.

14 posted on 08/06/2011 7:45:16 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: heights
More atheist crap on an epic scale.

Wow, that's a clever and insightful argument.

15 posted on 08/06/2011 8:02:00 PM PDT by Strategerist (There is only so much stupidity one man can prevent - Andrew Marshall)
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Wow, that's a clever and insightful argument.

He drew a conclusion, he did not make an argument.

You seem to be implying an argument that is so weak you are afraid to say it plainly...so I will for you.

You are trying to associate all arguments opposing your view with a reactionary statement that you selected out...and thus conclude..uhm...yes...uhm...conclude what?

16 posted on 08/06/2011 8:07:09 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: neverdem

Mr. Shermer would appear to be putting himself at a distinct evolutionary disadvantage with his sneering, yet oddly self-congratulatory disbelief. Last I heard, pattern recognition is highly correlated with general intelligence,

Just a Darwin Award waiting to happen, that one. “Hey dude, hold my latte and watch this.”


17 posted on 08/06/2011 8:17:20 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: neverdem
Everything is relative and irrelevant.

The truth is a lie or maybe not.....maybe It's just the meds or my brain chemistry.

The first step to changing truth into a lie is to create doubt.

I.E.“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

18 posted on 08/06/2011 8:28:33 PM PDT by right way right (Put down the remote, and vote!)
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To: neverdem

Another atheist tries to explain why he believes in nothing.


19 posted on 08/06/2011 9:05:03 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Mr. Shermer marshals an impressive array of evidence from game theory...

We are all game theorists (all living creatures are)! What game theory evidence does he marshal except that which supports his nihilism.

20 posted on 08/06/2011 9:05:10 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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