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How Bad Could A Mormon President Be?
Townhall.com ^ | August 7, 2011 | Austin Hill

Posted on 08/07/2011 11:35:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: This Just In

LOL

You always crack me up.


61 posted on 08/07/2011 12:32:03 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: bigbob
the problem isn’t that he would be a Mormon, the problem would be that he’s Mitt Romney

He is two, three, many Mitt Romneys.


62 posted on 08/07/2011 12:32:58 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Count of Monte Logan

Someone’s shaking the dust off their feet. I’m surprised you’re still here with all us “haters” and “Gentiles”.


63 posted on 08/07/2011 12:33:46 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: Kaslin
Go back to doing PC Fridays, Austin.

"Tolerance, Acceptance, Diversity."

Cheers!

64 posted on 08/07/2011 12:33:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: This Just In

It’s “Hate-uhs”

Sheesh. Haters is so yesterday right along with your 8 track playuh.

LOL


65 posted on 08/07/2011 12:35:34 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Well, at least I’m cracking someone up. :^)


66 posted on 08/07/2011 12:35:54 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: This Just In

The only reason they say "We are Christian" is an attempt to morph into something they are not and co-opt Christianity.

 

"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world"
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270

"...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels."
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60

"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p.

"Christians—those poor, miserable priests brother Brigham was speaking about—some of them are the biggest whoremasters there are on the earth, and at the same time preaching righteousness to the children of men. The poor devils, they could not get up here and preach an oral discourse, to save themselves from hell; they are preaching their fathers' sermons —preaching sermons that were written a hundred years before they were born. ...You may get a Methodist priest to pour water on you, or sprinkle it on you, and baptize you face foremost, or lay you down the other way, and whatever mode you please, and you will be damned with your priest.
- Apostle Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, v. 5, p. 89

"What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast."
- Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent."
- Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255

"After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon."
- Apostle George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, p. 324

Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

"I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

"What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute best." (John Taylor, JD 13:225)

"What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing...Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God." (John Taylor, JI) 13:225)

"Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177)

"...brother Joseph B. Nobles once told a Methodist priest, after hearing him describe his god, that the god they worshiped was the "Mormon's" Devil-a being without a body, whereas our God has a body, parts and passions." (Brigham Young, JD 5:331)

"...the great apostate church as the anti-christ...This great antichrist...is the church of the devil." (Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine p.40)

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the "whore of Babylon" whom the lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness." (Pratt, The Seer, p.255)

 

“God is not at its head, making that church [i.e., Christianity] – following the appearance in it of Satan – no longer the church of God. To say that Satan sits in the place of God in Christianity after the time of the apostles is not to say that all that is in it is Satanic.”
- Kent P. Jackson, “Early Signs of Apostasy,” Ensign, December 1984, p. 9

1 Nephi 14:10 "Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of god, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth."

"Orthodox Christian views of God are pagan rather than Christian" (Mormon Doctrine of Deity, B. H. Roberts [General Authority], 116).

Brigham Young: “…and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is Antichrist.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol 9 pg 312).

Mormon Apostle Hyrum M. Smith,- “In fact, my brethren and sisters, if the falsity of a religion can be measured in any degree by the amount of trouble and turmoil and strife and bitterness and hatred that it has engendered in the hearts of men, if it can be judged by the number of wars it has carried on and the rivers of blood it has shed, the amount of misery and sorrow, it has caused, or the extremes of impurity, found among its adherents, then Christianity, that which is known as Christianity, is the falsest of all religions in the world… The trouble is, as God declared to Joseph the Prophet, mankind have gone astray. Their religions are an abomination in his sight, and their professors are corrupt because they have turned away from the truth and have turned unto fables.” (Conference Report, October 1916, p.43).

 

 

The plaque above is found in Temple Square with Joseph Smith a top it.

Do the Latter Day Saints corporately and collectively believe this and support that view point?  Of course they do.  Otherwise, if there is no resurrected church then there is no LDS.

But everyone outside their group is "Anti-Mormon"?  LOL  They are Anti-Christian and seek not only to undermine Christianity and their beliefs but outright work to subordinate one man to another, in that one must accept the Prophets words as sacrosanct and inviolable.

No man pays fealty to another as their superior because thier so called god ordains it.


67 posted on 08/07/2011 12:36:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

8 Track?!

I’m still workin’ on smoke signals and bangin’ on cowhide with a blunt object.


68 posted on 08/07/2011 12:37:57 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: Vendome

Excellent post (#67). Clear and concise.


69 posted on 08/07/2011 12:40:49 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Is Romney even considered by the mother LDS church to be a particularly solid Mormon? I get the idea that there are a lot of other Mormons out there who would run rings around Romney vis a vis conservative “values.” But none of those Mormons are serious Republican candidates, so we conservatives can’t give any of them the nod as a presidential candidate.


70 posted on 08/07/2011 12:46:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Clintonfatigued

I agree with you. His Mormonism is the least of my concern


71 posted on 08/07/2011 12:50:46 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Clintonfatigued

He’s a car salesman, period.

His religion is irrelevant.


72 posted on 08/07/2011 12:52:19 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: Vendome

If LDS theology hypothetically were right (which I disagree strongly with, but just for sake of argument) then they would at least be self consistent in claiming to be “the only Christians.” Because who else “confesses” Joseph Smith to be a “prophet”? But they would not be self consistent in saying to evangelical and Roman Catholic churches, “we are one of you.” That would be logical balderdash because the latter churches (not to be confused with latter day saints) are not Smith confessors.

But it’s even worse, they have jettisoned stuff that they used to claim came from Smith when it proved a political embarrassment to the church — such as polygamy policies. Shouldn’t they be confessing the original Smith come hell or high water if they really believed what they say about him?


73 posted on 08/07/2011 12:56:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Kaslin

I don’t care that he’s a Mormon; I care that he’s a dishonest flake and closet statist.


74 posted on 08/07/2011 1:01:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Vendome

He won’t lose enough votes to make his religion matter.

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I absolutely disagree. It will matter. My gut tells me that this is the most important election of my small children’s lives even though they can’t vote. If we are going to save our Republic we need a President who is willing to viciously fight and sway the American population to his/her vision. There is nothing in Romney’s background that shows him to be that person. He is not a firebrand conservative and Romneycare (his major legislative achievement) has been a failure just like every other governmentcentric solution fails.

Combine that opinion with the reality, right or wrong, that his brand of faith will become a major issue and cost votes. The media’s annointing of him (far too early in the process) tells me they agree with that assessment.

Respectfully, I won’t take that chance. I am not looking for a theological debate because we all enjoy God-given freewill to believe or not believe.

I did not understand the reference to Obama in your post and his election but I agree with your conclusion about folks living their lives.

I think the far left made a maximum effort for Obama who benefitted as much from political correctness, Bush fatigue, and a tepid GOP candidate as he did from his platform that was never really defined outside of hopey changey platitudes.

That won’t work for the GOP nominee. The margins are too slim and it’s foolish to ignore anything that accounts for even 5% or less of the popular vote. It will make a difference.


75 posted on 08/07/2011 1:01:26 PM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: jacknhoo; All
The caller, that called into the author's radio show is correct though, when he said

"The Marxism that exists in the White House right now is waaay more disturbing to me". "If we could replace that with Mormonism, I think that’d be a huge improvement..." No one can deny that

76 posted on 08/07/2011 1:02:37 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Count of Monte Logan
BTW: Just so you understand. Jesus Christ wrote the Book of Mormon.

Yeah. And I wrote The Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Fantasy is fantasy.

77 posted on 08/07/2011 1:06:19 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Brigham Young had 57 children via his 56 wives.

Mormonism is based on the domination of women, much like Islam.

Men of consequence and worth want new pretty women as their prior(s) age. Instead of divorcing them, they basically keep them on as maids.

A sad twist on “cheaper to keep her”


78 posted on 08/07/2011 1:15:19 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Is Romney even considered by the mother LDS church to be a particularly solid Mormon? I get the idea that there are a lot of other Mormons out there who would run rings around Romney vis a vis conservative “values.”

You keep paying your 10% and you stay in the club....simple as that.
79 posted on 08/07/2011 1:19:08 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: buccaneer81

“Fantasy is fantasy.”

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ;)

But I do agree with you—keep the fantasy in fantasy-land. Jesus didn’t even write the New Testament—divinely inspired men of God did. The idea that Jesus wrote the Book of Mormon is indeed fantasy, and of the dangerous kind. To anyone who believes Joseph Smith was a divine prophet, I recommend Mormonism, Momma and Me. It’s an eye-popper.


80 posted on 08/07/2011 1:19:21 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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