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I caught these two gems Thursday night and had to share. On Hardball they realize they defeated themselves.

Over at Maddow-land "Everyone knows ..." whatever Maddow is selling that night must be right, it's always 'so obvious'. Check out the 10 to 1 math.

1 posted on 08/07/2011 7:40:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

It was a big setback for THE KENYAN’S economic theory as well.


2 posted on 08/07/2011 7:45:07 PM PDT by festusbanjo (Attn: Current Occupant 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., let this serve as your eviction notice eff.11/06/2012)
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To: sickoflibs

Keynesian theory?
Global warming theory?
Religion of peace theory?

Same bull Obama.

Same people.

Massive fail ... As usual.


3 posted on 08/07/2011 7:47:27 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: LMAO; DeaconBenjamin; April Lexington; murphE; RipSawyer; Tunehead54; preacher; 1234; coloradan; ...
The Peter Schiff/Austrian Economics ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)
4 posted on 08/07/2011 7:48:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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“They had no intention of saving capitalism. They wanted to destroy it and replace it with socialism or Marxism or fascism or whatever you want to call it.”

Let none of us forget that GWB said we must destroy the free market in order to save it.

So he and his republican New Worlds Order kool-aid drinkers are on board too.


5 posted on 08/07/2011 7:50:31 PM PDT by stockpirate (Proud member of the TEA Party, aka Terrorists Emancipating America)
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Ironically, although Keynesian economic theory has always been known to be a fraud, the failure of the “stimulus” package doesn’t really prove the point because the stimulus package was never anything more than a political slush fund for bailing out failed union pension funds and keeping Democrat municipal governments afloat. Very little of the $800 billion actually went to anythiny normally associated with “stimulus”. It was mostly used just to pay bills.

And so now the Keynesians have to either admit that they and their theories are abject failures or nod that yes, the stimulus package was a massive, brazen theft by their Democrat party on behalf of political special interests. What to do, oh, what to do...


6 posted on 08/07/2011 7:51:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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7 posted on 08/07/2011 7:52:11 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: sickoflibs

EXCELLENT post. Thank you.


8 posted on 08/07/2011 7:52:32 PM PDT by DRey
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To: sickoflibs

sol,

Silly boy, you are actually listening to what they are saying, and understanding them, much to their dismay.

The true intent of their commentary is aimed only at themselves so they can land talking head jobs at low rated subsidiaries of soros.inc.

Logic, mathematical reality, and reason do not apply in that world.


11 posted on 08/07/2011 7:54:43 PM PDT by hotshu (Keep America's Faith, that's all 0bama and his fellow traitors can't steal from us.)
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Keynesian economics should have died in the late 1970s with stagflation...something Keynesian theory said could not happen. J M Keynes is like a zombie who keeps coming back from the dead looking for economies to devour.


12 posted on 08/07/2011 7:58:16 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: sickoflibs

They’d rather put their faith in unicorns and pentagrams than to admit the spending must STOP.
It’s time to root out the crooked doctors, hospitals, lobbyists, welfare cheats, disability frauds, EPA over-regulators, ACORN lookalikes, and moronic HHS grants for example.
It’s time to start tax reform.
and it’s time to jettison this administration and the clueless leader.
Media talking heads should be outsourced - that alone would go a long way toward educating the American public about the long hard road we have to walk in order to undo this socialist experiment.


15 posted on 08/07/2011 8:04:52 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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We don't know that Keynes would be a "Keynsian" today. Keynes became a wealthy man by buying stocks. Not by going to work for a big firm that made a % off of bond sales and stock issues, but by buying and selling his own portfolio. How many Obama advisers can say the same? (My guess = 0)

Keynes thought that a central government that spent 5% of the GNP, and had an all but invisible regulatory footprint, could spur the economy by temporarily spending 10% of the GNP.

That does not mean that he would have thought a central government spending 22% of the GNP, and regulating everything that moves, would spur the economy by raising spending to 27% of GNP.

17 posted on 08/07/2011 8:06:04 PM PDT by Pilsner
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Setback? More like an ineluctable repudiation of Keynesian demand-side economics.


19 posted on 08/07/2011 8:07:43 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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GREAT!

We took Trillions of dollars and added that to our children’s credit card for a THEORY?!!!

Are these people for F’ng REAL?!!!

So when do get to apply my theories at the taxpayers expense?

F the Liberals in the country ALL to HELL!

I have to pay, you have to pay, and our children and their children have to pay ... for their Theories!!


25 posted on 08/07/2011 8:19:12 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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They wanted to replace it with communism, statist communism.


28 posted on 08/07/2011 8:25:01 PM PDT by Eva
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MATTHEWS: I think the Tea Party people need to read history.

How do they explain the Harding/Coolidge economy?

31 posted on 08/07/2011 8:30:33 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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I watched that.. (I like watching msnbc because of the laughs) .. they went on to say it was too small and tea partiers were dumb because it was econ 101...


33 posted on 08/07/2011 8:35:24 PM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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The Keynesian economic theory was and is nothing more than disguised socialism and it has never worked, never. =.=


42 posted on 08/07/2011 8:58:40 PM PDT by cranked
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What you have seen transpire is not at all Keynesian economic theory. Keynes' theory required that the stimulus money to be spent in bad times be previously saved up in good times.

During the good times, how many of these alleged Keynesians were demanding that funds be saved for the next rainy day?

Exactly.

So as full of nonsense as much of Keynesianism is, the people today now promoting policy under that name are not Keynesians. They are pathological spending addicts. That's all it is. There is no grand plan or policy that girds their suggestions - there is nothing more to it than an irrepressible urge to take your money for themselves and their friends. That's ALL they know how to do, that's all they have ever done.

"They" are simple oligarchists, some under the banner of Communism, others under the banner of klepto-fascism, others cannot decide between them but prefer either to freedom and liberty.

51 posted on 08/07/2011 9:57:49 PM PDT by icanhasbailout
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I think you missed the point: They are arguing that what they perceive to be the limited success of the stimulus weakens the perception that Keynesian economics is effective. They, and God help us, Paul Krugman, still believe that Keynesianism works, just that the stimulus was too small. The problem with the economy, in their eyes, is that the physicians did not apply enough leaches, not that the "bad humor" theory of disease is flawed.
57 posted on 08/08/2011 3:21:12 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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“The cost of debt compared to the cost of unemployment is incredibly low. A trillion dollar deficit costs us $25B per year to pay the interest on that. If we have an extra 10M people unemployed that’s $250M lost forever each year so it’s a 10 to 1 trade-off .”
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Apparently I am “unimaginably stupid” because I cannot imagine what Madcow is trying to say here. I am sure that it must be amazingly brilliant if someone would just explain it to me.


60 posted on 08/08/2011 5:17:12 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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