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Army approves atheism-themed concert at Fort Bragg
Associated Press ^ | Aug 8, 12:51 PM EDT | TOM BREEN

Posted on 08/08/2011 9:26:40 PM PDT by RitchieAprile

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To: RitchieAprile

Unbelievable and disgraceful. What’s WRONG with people???

Hopefully, it’ll be protested. People of Judeo/Christian faiths are far too docile and quiet, while Atheists and Muslims are “in your face” constantly.

Wake up, guys.


21 posted on 08/08/2011 10:37:07 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: RitchieAprile

I would never attend a concert like this but I see absolutely no reason why a concert can’t be offered. What is the big deal. If people enjoy that type of thing, why not? I would go to that Christian concert though.....lol.


22 posted on 08/08/2011 10:38:48 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

Because I do not believe that it is in our country’s or
our soldiers’ best interests to associate or intimate the US Army’s approval of atheism.

I do not accept that atheism is the equivalent to faith, nor should it receieve the support of the armed forces. If soldiers want to conduct whatever it is that they consider ‘atheism’ off post and outside of duty hours its probably noone’s buisness.

But making the Army a party to their non-’beliefs’ is a slap in the face, in my opinion.

The courts hold otherwise and therein lies the shame.


23 posted on 08/08/2011 10:52:56 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile
But making the Army a party to their non-’beliefs’ is a slap in the face, in my opinion.

Why is anyone else's belief a slap in your face? I'm not understanding the outrage on any level.

24 posted on 08/08/2011 10:57:55 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: RitchieAprile

This is nothing. Just wait for the gays to get their hands on their own giant private bath house. That will make SF look like kids play.


25 posted on 08/08/2011 11:11:37 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: Melas

For up until the 1930’s we had the word God in the public school text books—I have copies of them....the word God and the Lord and gift of God is all through the McGuffey Readers.....Respect God’s creation.

Those books did not prevent atheists from worshiping the devil if they so pleased....what it did do and Franklin was clear on it—as were all the Founders—it taught Christian morality—the morality the Founders wanted taught in all public schools. Franklin was the one who proposed all the agreed upon tenants of Judeo/Christian religions...the Bible was used in public schools. No atheism was allowed—it wasn’t considered a religion back then anyways.

So Intent and purpose of the US Constitution is that we are all equal under the law and we have inalienable rights which come from God—not Lucifer. So YES we have the duty to worship God, but government will never dictate that we have to-—but at no time can we act like other people DON’T have inalienable rights from God==That is unconstitutional.

Yes, The Laws of Nature and Nature’s God in our Declaration and the words Natural Rights all through the Constitution are terms of Natural Law Theory which presupposes a Designer of Nature. Can’t get around it—was the belief system long before Marx and Darwin came along which popularized Atheism. Their beliefs are incompatible with our Constitution—Russia, Germany and China and Cuba and Cambodia have a different philosophy which is atheism—and was actually illegal to hold office up again—until the cultural Marxists designed a method to destroy us from within....so they took prayer out of our schools in the 50s.

Acknowledging God is not establishing a religion....it never has anything in the Constitution about Religion—as a matter of fact, some states had state churches...it was just the Federal government which was restricted from promoting laws that FORBID the freedom of practicing religion—that worshiped God==not pagan gods. That was condemned by the Founders.

Of course, the Marxists in the 30’s destroyed that, didn’t they. The socialist Dewey threw out the McGuffey Readers and they threw out the Moral Absolutes (Our government is based on Universal Truths from Natural Law (John Locke) so that was unconstitutional but they did it covertly.

So, atheists were not allowed to testify in court because they did not believe in God for a hundred years after the country was formed....maybe longer.

So our military does have a DUTY to acknowledge God—it does not establish a religion in acknowledging God—which just acknowledges our inalienable rights stated in our Founding Documents and the fundamental principle of our jurisprudence. Marxism is unconstitutional, so is atheism since they both deny Natural Rights from God.


26 posted on 08/08/2011 11:46:52 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: RitchieAprile

I hear what you are saying, but soon Christians won’t even be able to celebrate on any bases in the military. It is coming soon. I figure allowing this will stop that train a bit. If we don’t budge at all, we will lose in the end.....I truly believe that.


27 posted on 08/09/2011 12:14:34 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: RitchieAprile

What baloney cowards, backed out of their event because they were miffed at the lukewarm support it was getting?


28 posted on 08/09/2011 1:21:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: napscoordinator

Agreed though I was kinda thinking up songs they could do:

What A Mighty Fortress Is Our Nothing
Nobody Only Knows
Nobody Bless America
Losing My Religion? I Never Had It!

:)


29 posted on 08/09/2011 1:29:07 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Melas; napscoordinator

These self-absorbed atheists obviously have an agenda here. They can’t stand the idea that people believe in God and live their lives according to their faith. If they had any decency they would say, “Hey, even though I don’t believe as you do, I’m happy for you and if you want to have a concert to celebrate your beliefs, hey, go for it. Enjoy yourselves and good luck. Their upcoming secular “in your face” charade of a concert exposes them for what they are.


30 posted on 08/09/2011 1:57:09 AM PDT by dupree
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I was also wondering what they sing at an “atheist themed concert.”

How Great Thou Aren’t?


31 posted on 08/09/2011 2:27:54 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: savagesusie

Well said. I agree completely.


32 posted on 08/09/2011 3:30:19 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: RitchieAprile

I’m not sure what an atheism-themed concert even is. Still, I’m pretty sure I would have many other things to do during one even advertised as such.


33 posted on 08/09/2011 4:18:42 AM PDT by stevem
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To: RitchieAprile

Gen George Washington hoped and expected every Officer and man would so live and act as becomes a Christian Soldier... and thus we were taught to laud the more distinguished character of the Christian as Patriots at Ft.Campbell Ky in 1969. When we were Catholic,Protestant ,Jew, or Nothing at ALL. This sure aint the ARMY that trained us to defend our Country and our way of life against ALL enemy foreign or domestic.


34 posted on 08/09/2011 4:26:48 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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Just put that because in the colonies, except Maryland, Catholics were not well liked by the other Christians. My point is that all the different Christian sects and their antagonism towards one another and their wars in Europe were all noted by the Founders. Franklin made a list of all the points of the various Christian religions that they could agree upon for public school morality.

Kept God in the schools and the Ten Commandments. The Bible was an important book in education of the young.

Why did we change? The Marxist philosophy intentionally is trying to eliminate that philosophy which formed America—mainly Christianity and Natural Law Theory/Locke where our Natural Rights comes from (God).

They are rewriting the Constitution—using their Marxist lawyers like Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. to change the meaning and intent of the Founding Fathers...Kill God.......intentionally to destroy the document and enslave the masses in America—take away Natural Rights so they can eliminate whomever.

The cultural Marxists wrote out their plans in the 1930’s and Marcuse implemented it and sped it up in the 50’s with the McCarthy hearings, etc.

This process of “normalization” means making little Marxists out of your children. Destroying all Christian morality so there is nothing left but copulating masses who stab each other in the back.....big need for nanny state.


35 posted on 08/09/2011 8:42:42 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: savagesusie

Okay, I see now.


36 posted on 08/10/2011 5:47:35 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Bigg Red

LOL—I try to briefly explain about 30 books I have read in the last 3 years....which is really not that easy to do. It sounds idiotic because the ideology behind it goes back hundreds of years and you have to be familiar with Aristotle’s Ethics, Cicero, Locke, Reid, Aquinas, etc.

That is the problem—by the time children finish high school they have no idea about the above geniuses nor have they read any of the Classical Literature which is all about Wisdom, Courage, Duty, and Justice. It is why the HEY HO—Western Civ has got to go chants at Stanford in the 60;s. The Marxists wanted to intentionally destroy those virtues in children by erasing the ideas and the people. They keep the kids ignorant of the greatest ideas throughout Western Civ which made America exceptional. America took the greatest thinkers in the history of the world and created a government with those greatest ideas of all time.

One of the greatest political documents ever written is the Federalist Papers...kids can’t tell you what those are—they could have 100 years ago, as well as, quote the Bible and ten Commandments.

The Founders knew morality had to be taught in the public schools—they all read Machiavelli and understood the evil and cruelty in the nature of man.

I do get carried away—but this fascist attempt to create an atheist worldview is Orwellian now—look at anyone who says homosexuality is disgusting—they are immediately crucified—lose their job and have to apologize.

They are apologizing for calling sin a sin....never would have happened even 15 years ago. Never—the freedom of conscience and thought is being stripped away—in the military and has been in the Public schools since the “Day of Silence” and Sex Ed classes. Morality of Marx.

—that intent to “kill God” and destroy or rewrite the Bible actually started with the Enlightenment, but really got serious with the German Postmodern philosophers in the 19th century.

Closing of the American Mind by Bloom and the Long March by R. Kimball are good books to get a grasp on what is happening by those elites who control the media and curricula and what type of worldview are children are allowed to have. It eliminates God—unless it is the new age earth mother god who loves sin and degenerate behaviors.


37 posted on 08/10/2011 8:03:41 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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