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16,000 police to retake London: PM recalls Parliament as the police lose control of Britain's street
Daily Mail (London) ^

Posted on 08/09/2011 6:15:16 AM PDT by quesney

16,000 police to retake London: PM recalls Parliament as the police lose control of Britain's streets

--Prime Minister David Cameron recalls Parliament on Thursday as Government tries to quell uprising

--'Unprecedented' 16,000 police on duty in London - compared with just 6,000 last night

--Man, 26, shot in Croydon last night dies in hospital England game against Netherlands at Wembley tomorrow called OFF

--400% surge in 999 calls on night of violence with 20,800 dialling the emergency services in London

--Cost of clean-up expected to run into 'tens of millions'

--Metropolitan Police use armoured vehicles to push back 150 rioters in Lavender Hill, Clapham

--'There are no plans for the Army to get involved,' says police chief

--Three arrested on suspicion of attempted murder of police officer

--525 people arrested in total and more than 100 people have been charged

--Jamie Oliver's restaurant in Birmingham ransacked by rioters

--All police cells in London are now FULL

--Man seriously ill after being shot in Croydon

--Copycat riots reported in Birmingham, Bristol, Nottingham, Liverpool and Leeds

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/LONDON-RIOTS-David-Cameron-returns-home-police-face-gangs-petrol-bombs.html#ixzz1UXI1VrCk

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: birmingham; bristol; croydon; diversity; leeds; liverpool; london; nottingham; parliament; police; rioters; riots; unitedkingdom; uprising
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To: ladyvet
Plus I should mention, it's not just political correctness in Britain. They have actual laws that can get you fined and in jail for mentioning things about race, homosexuality, ethnicity or religion there. It's a whole 'nother ballgame in reporting in Britain.

The things we say about Islam here on FR, could land us in jail over there.

181 posted on 08/09/2011 9:25:23 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: quesney
This appears to be mostly criminal opportunism and welfare-state-induced urban boredom, but at some point the Islam angle will be revealed here. I'm sure that of the disaffected immigrants, a sizable proportion are angry Muslims. Even if they didn't start it, they'll find it the perfect atmosphere to exploit.
182 posted on 08/09/2011 9:26:01 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: concerned about politics
Luckily, in America, some areas still have the Constitutional right to defend themselves.

Luck had nothting to do with it. Citizen patriots fought for that right and still do. But I get your point.

183 posted on 08/09/2011 9:26:29 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: Sal
Or at least, when we are at war in so many Muslim countries, stop bringing in more Muslim "immigrants."

How many Japanese, German or Italian immigrants were allowed to come to the US or UK during WWII?!?!

184 posted on 08/09/2011 9:27:22 AM PDT by drpix
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To: ecomcon
"The only way to eradicate it is a revolution"

A revolution of want, and hunger, and pestilence, maybe. Otherwise, let's just separate from them. They are lost.

And how are we to separate from them in a practical manner -- draw a line through the country and tell everyone to move to "their" side of the border? Call for a constitutional convention to dissolve the Union?

America's ideological split doesn't conveniently align with some natural regional difference, such as existed at the time of the Civil War. Left and right live cheek by jowl, all across the country, and cannot be physically separated without monumental dislocations to the entire populace.

No - we're only going to fix this country the hard way, and that is by undoing over a half century of Socialist infection that runs throughout our culture. You want your country back bad enough, that's the daunting task you must accept.

I see such posts on here from time to time, and think to myself that people who say such things are just venting their frustrations. I myself, have sometimes commented that I'd just like to revoke the leftist's citizenship and kick them out of the country, but I know that's never going to happen, either.

The way out is through.

185 posted on 08/09/2011 9:33:00 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ecomcon
"The only way to eradicate it is a revolution"

A revolution of want, and hunger, and pestilence, maybe. Otherwise, let's just separate from them. They are lost.

And how are we to separate from them in a practical manner -- draw a line through the country and tell everyone to move to "their" side of the border? Call for a constitutional convention to dissolve the Union?

America's ideological split doesn't conveniently align with some natural regional difference, such as existed at the time of the Civil War. Left and right live cheek by jowl, all across the country, and cannot be physically separated without monumental dislocations to the entire populace.

No - we're only going to fix this country the hard way, and that is by undoing over a half century of Socialist infection that runs throughout our culture. You want your country back bad enough, that's the daunting task you must accept.

I see such posts on here from time to time, and think to myself that people who say such things are just venting their frustrations. I myself, have sometimes commented that I'd just like to revoke the leftist's citizenship and kick them out of the country, but I know that's never going to happen, either.

The way out is through.

186 posted on 08/09/2011 9:33:20 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Glenn

Wouldn’t you like to throw a brick or two through a window some days?
_________________________________________

WOW

It must have been your ancestors who burnt down my Loyalist ancestors trading post in Herkimer County

Just for the heck of it...

A sick man inside was burnt to death...


187 posted on 08/09/2011 9:44:53 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: quesney

I have just got back from some of these areas (was coincidently in London for business) and I must say it was pretty shocking.

There is shops boarded up, burned out, junk all over the street.....as I was on the M25 (Motorway surround London) you can see many plumes of smoke.

As you drive through areas you can’t help but notice groups of mainly black youths loitering.....no doubt this is always the case but under the circumstances it looks pretty ominous.


188 posted on 08/09/2011 9:45:13 AM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: drpix
How many Japanese, German or Italian immigrants were allowed to come to the US or UK during WWII?!?!
After WWII, we banned State Shinto religion in Japan, which had been instrumental in leading the Japanese to war.
189 posted on 08/09/2011 9:46:55 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: DoughtyOne

Anyone out rioting in the streets wearing a balaclava or shemagh/keffiyeh to hide their identity ought to be detained for that alone... But there may not be a law that prohibits such action, so maybe it’s not in the cards (at least, not by “the authorities”).

Of course, that might not deter locals from protecting their own lives and property by using smashmouth techniques against anybody observed wearing such disguises in the street or while committing crimes...

It might require concerted action, for example small groups of two or three picking off stray looters one at a time and applying corrective measures... Turnabout being fair play and all...


190 posted on 08/09/2011 9:49:05 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: oh8eleven
"After WWII, we banned State Shinto religion in Japan."

And after the Revolutionary War, our founding fathers banned the Church of England, and those churches had to eliminate the place of the King in their religion, reorganize as the Episcopalian Church or leave the country.

191 posted on 08/09/2011 9:55:21 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
Good point. Personally, I don't believe we'll ever see an end to terrorism until we ban Islam worldwide.
192 posted on 08/09/2011 9:59:35 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Madame Dufarge
How about the police just call the rioters "Poo-Poo Head" through bullhorns and see how that works?

lol, Madame. Well, while the higher-ups are deciding how tough to get, some British citizens are starting to take matters in their own hands to protect their neighborhoods
193 posted on 08/09/2011 10:02:48 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: triumphant values

NO MORON WE SHOULD NOT LET IT HAPPEN HERE! If America fails it will be political correctnes that does it. Look around and see what is happening here every day and tell me we are not on the same path as England!


194 posted on 08/09/2011 10:04:13 AM PDT by JayAr36
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To: concerned about politics
To the dependent democrat base, these anarchists animals are heroes.

Disgusting.
195 posted on 08/09/2011 10:05:09 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: JayAr36
NO MORON WE SHOULD NOT LET IT HAPPEN HERE!

Who the hell are you responding to? Certainly not me.

196 posted on 08/09/2011 10:11:20 AM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Joe Boucher
They are beginning here. They're called "flash mobs," but the MSM is under-reporting it.

-PJ

197 posted on 08/09/2011 10:11:24 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: Glenn
It's a bit of acting out, to be sure, but people are frustrated, don't you think? Wouldn't you like to throw a brick or two through a window some days?

Acting out?

Bullshit. It's violent criminality.

Frustrated??

Bullshit again. I'm tired of hearing whiny, welfare eating ne'er-do-wells bitch about being "frustrated". I'm being forced at gunpoint to pay their sorry asses to do nothing, and they're "frustrated"? To hell with them.

Wouldn't you like to throw a brick or two through a window some days?

HELL NO!!!!

You sure you're on the right forum?

198 posted on 08/09/2011 10:12:56 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, it's a strange day indeed when you're the voice of sanity ...
199 posted on 08/09/2011 10:14:55 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Glenn

I suspect these rioters are the type who want MORE Gov’t in their day to day living, not less.


200 posted on 08/09/2011 10:15:09 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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