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(NJ) Plainfield religious leaders, police gearing up for gun buyback program

Posted on 08/09/2011 11:31:59 AM PDT by Coleus

Plainfield religious leaders, police gearing up for gun buyback program


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; corruption; fraud; govtabuse; gunbuyback; guns; liberalfascism; nazistate; plainfield; policestate
NOTE: Renowned gun rights attorney and author Evan Nappen (also an ANJRPC board member) has offered a $5,000 reward to the first person who can show that gun buybacks in New Jersey are legal.  A copy of Nappen’s press release on the subject is below.  Structurally, New Jersey gun law bans everything related to firearms with explicit limited exemptions, within which conduct must be confined in order to be legal.  In his release, Nappen applies this structure to New Jersey gun buybacks, for which there are no written exemptions.  His release highlights the hypocrisy of a system in which law abiding gun owners contort themselves to remain within the narrow exemptions, yet "the authorities” feel at liberty to ignore them completely.  Don’t expect anyone to collect the $5,000 reward anytime soon. 

 $5000 REWARD! ARE THE CHURCH GUN "BUYBACKS" LEGAL?

Eatontown, NJ, August 2011 - Evan F. Nappen, Attorney at Law and author of the "NEW JERSEY GUN LAW GUIDE”  is offering a $5000* reward to the first person who can show to Attorney Nappen’s satisfaction the specific New Jersey gun law statutes (N.J.S. 2C:39-1 through 2C:39-16 or N.J.S. 2C:58-1 through N.J.S. 58-19) which authorizes the Plainfield churches to act as "collection sites” in which persons are paid up to $200 in cash with "no-questions- asked” for any type of gun from handguns to "assault firearms” and said guns are then destroyed without further investigation. (For more information on this "buyback” see the following article: 

Attorney Nappen knows of no New Jersey gun law statute allowing 1) the anonymous surrender of firearms; 2) the receipt of surrendered firearms by churches; 3) the unlicensed transport of guns to churches; and 4) the destruction without investigation of guns (which may be potential criminal evidence or stolen property that should be returned to their rightful owners.

He would very much like to include such laws his next edition of the "NEW JERSEY GUN LAW GUIDE”.

New Jersey law provides for the voluntary surrender of firearms only when the person giving up the firearms first gives written notice to the chief of police where he resides or the state police superintendent. Anonymous surrender is simply not authorized. The same law authorizes only the local police chief or the state police superintendent to receive surrendered guns. A church is not authorized under the statute to receive surrendered firearms. (See N.J.S. 2C:39-12.) Also, there is no transportation exemption for such a surrender scheme or bringing unlicensed guns to church. (See N.J.S. 2C:39-6.)

The immunity granted under New Jersey ’s voluntary surrender law is limited to unlawful possession only and nothing more. By allowing for anonymous "no-questions-asked” surrender, the buyback program effectively creates de facto immunity far beyond this.

The purchase of firearms in New Jersey is strictly prohibited except for licensed dealers and individuals with a Handgun Purchase Permit or Firearms Purchaser ID Card. All gun sales are recorded and include the name and address of the buyer and seller. A church is not authorized under the statute to purchase firearms, no less from anonymous sellers. The payment of cash for a firearms purchase by anyone other than a licensed dealer or a permit/FID cardholder is not permitted. (See N.J.S.  2C:58-3(a) and (b).) 

*Notice: The Reward offer expires on November 5, 2011.

1 posted on 08/09/2011 11:32:02 AM PDT by Coleus
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I never understood these gun buybacks in New Jersey. Suppose one commits a crime with a gun, let’s say, murder or armed robbery. You then give the gun to a friend to turn in, and split $200.00.

The guns are subsequently melted down and that’s the end of it.


2 posted on 08/09/2011 11:34:56 AM PDT by Coleus
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Works good here. They turn them in...get the money and upgrade....

Yeh...That works out good!! More bang for your bucks.

3 posted on 08/09/2011 11:37:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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It’s simple how it works actually. The guns are traded in and Attorney General Holder has them distributed to Mexican drug cartels.


4 posted on 08/09/2011 11:39:26 AM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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It gets guns out of the hands of morons who turn in guns.

“You then give the gun to a friend to turn in, and split $200.00.”

You trust the police more than me.


5 posted on 08/09/2011 11:44:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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The guns are traded in and Attorney General Holder has them distributed to Mexican drug cartels.

Nobody turns in a "good" gun for $200.00. And the cartel doesn't want old junk guns either. Especially when they can get 50cal. sniper rifles and AR15's from our government.

6 posted on 08/09/2011 12:25:24 PM PDT by Texan
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We have had only one gun buyback — about 20 years ago. Fortunately, it was done with the local loony lefties’ money and not with taxpayer funds. The guns were turned over to the cops, no questions asked, and you were given $50 cash for a pistol and $25 for a rifle or shotgun. The gun did not have to work nor even be complete.

Our local gun shop participated in a warped way. The owner had accumulated a large number of junk handguns, usually cheap revolvers and some junk automatics. i got six and turned them in for $300 that I turned over to the owner. He rented a meeting room at a local motel and had a party with food and beverages paid by the stupid feel-good types.

About a week after the Great Gun Buyback, our local radio station had a Saturday morning call-in show that discussed the buyback’s effectiveness. I called-in and told them of my experiences with the kinds guns turned-in. I also told the host about the scamming of the stupid feel-good donors.

The host was aghast that we'd taken their money and partied with it. I told the host, “Let me leave you with the immortal words of the great showman P.T. Barnum: ‘It is morally irresponsible to let a fool keep his money.’”

7 posted on 08/10/2011 4:18:00 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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Orwellian newspeak - how do you “buy back” something you never owned?


8 posted on 08/10/2011 7:19:08 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: MasterGunner01
I remember a similar story back early in the Clinton administration. Somebody in Philadelphia was having a "gun buyback", and they were offering various rewards, up to and including $500 for "assault weapons".

Of course none of the people involved had the same definition for "assault weapons", and somebody with an SKS opened up the folding bayonet on his rifle, and of course, the person accepting the guns agreed that since it had a bayonet it must be an "assault weapon" and paid the guy $500. Then he went and told all his buddies about his windfall.

What followed was a run on gun shows and gun stores, where you could pick up a brand new SKS for $119, tops.

You can probably figure out the rest... somebody made a lot of money off these fools. ;D

9 posted on 08/10/2011 8:05:27 AM PDT by Kenton (No hope, the wrong change - Buck Ofama)
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