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Posted on 08/09/2011 7:59:49 PM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Alter Kaker
all of which yield the same age

BS

21 posted on 08/10/2011 7:40:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Alter Kaker

I am sorry for your anger towards Christians. You may want to check out the main page of FR. it says some things about people like us. I wish u the best, and ask that you keep your demeaning comments to yourself.


22 posted on 08/10/2011 7:46:20 AM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: Alter Kaker
Wow. You don't know that C-14 dating is being used to date the earth? No offense, but you don't know what you are talking about.

The age of the universe has been determined by three different independent techniques, all of which yield the same age.

And what techniques might those be? Science has never determined it. I'm sure Drs. Snelling, J. Morris, Woodmorappe, and Steven Meyer would love to hear it. Wjhat you left out (conveniently) is that all current techniques assume that the model is correct. As an example, using light to determine age runs into the horizon problem: you assume that all variables remain constant, everywhere. You are left with a hypothesis, but it's not something that can be proved.

So I prefer to go with what CAN be proved: the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and his fulfillment of 365 prophecies attributed to the Messiah. That alone gives me a baseline to "prove all things, hold onto that which is good". And if he is truth embodied in human form, then everything he has said is true.(1 Th 5:21 and John 17:17).

23 posted on 08/10/2011 8:11:39 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: vpintheak
I am sorry for your anger towards Christians.

Don't be silly. I have no anger for Christians. Stop with the non-sequitors and don't start claiming I'm "persecuting" you.

24 posted on 08/10/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Persecute was not a word I typed. You aren’t persecutiing anyone. What you are doing is making us out to be fools, which is your right to do; although doing so is utterly and profoundly ignorant.


25 posted on 08/10/2011 11:15:53 AM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: Salvavida
The earth wasn’t even around 23 million years ago. Junk science.

Agreed, statements like that are utter nonsense. 23 million years, ya right, uh huh ...
26 posted on 08/10/2011 11:20:41 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Alter Kaker

Unfortuntely, at the judgement, you will be found to have been the stupid one for believing fairytales, sad but true.


27 posted on 08/10/2011 11:23:34 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Pharmboy

With the Bible, you can pursue religion, philosophy, morality and even history, but not science.


28 posted on 08/10/2011 11:35:16 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ZX12R

Well put, but I’m not one of those on this thread that needs to understand that.


29 posted on 08/10/2011 11:50:14 AM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Pharmboy
Well put, but I’m not one of those on this thread that needs to understand that.

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you did. For some reason I just thought I'd put it out there, and replied to the originator of the thread.
30 posted on 08/10/2011 11:56:30 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Scythian
Unfortuntely, at the judgement, you will be found to have been the stupid one for believing fairytales, sad but true.

Aren't you the fellow that believes bigfoot is real? If so, it seems to me, that you believe in fairy tales too.
31 posted on 08/10/2011 12:03:14 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Alter Kaker

Arguing science vs. faith always ends badly.


32 posted on 08/10/2011 12:10:10 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: ZX12R

Oh...no “sorry” necessary. Nuance is hard to convey in a post...in agreeing with you, I just meant to reinforce that thought for others. Thanks again for your reasoned addition to the thread.


33 posted on 08/10/2011 12:19:09 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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Aren't you the fellow that believes bigfoot is real?

I, too, thought that had been confirmed.

34 posted on 08/10/2011 12:32:39 PM PDT by no gnu taxes
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To: no gnu taxes
I, too, thought that had been confirmed.

That is a Wookie, a close relative, yet different species. It's a misidentification often made by amateurs. So don't feel bad. Only an expert could tell the difference.
35 posted on 08/10/2011 12:48:00 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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36 posted on 08/10/2011 1:08:14 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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Thanks Pharmboy.

A 'look back in amber' ping.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


37 posted on 08/10/2011 2:49:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Pharmboy

If the amber was from North America we could resurrect a large Epicyon, Orrorin tugenensis’ best friend.


38 posted on 08/10/2011 3:14:15 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Salvavida; TheZMan; miliantnutcase; Alter Kaker; MrB; ZX12R; Pharmboy; Doctor Stochastic

C-14 dating isn't used to date the Earth. A different radiometric method used to date the Earth is the Uranium to Lead ratio (Uranium decays into Lead at a measurable rate).

In 2005, in the topic Long-Destroyed Fifth Planet May Have Caused Lunar Cataclysm, Researchers Say, FReeper Doctor Stochastic posted this useful link:
Radiometric Dating, A Christian Perspective
by Dr. Roger C. Wiens
First edition 1994; revised version 2002
[snip] Radiometric dating -- the process of determining the age of rocks from the decay of their radioactive elements -- has been in widespread use for over half a century. There are over forty such techniques, each using a different radioactive element or a different way of measuring them. It has become increasingly clear that these radiometric dating techniques agree with each other and as a whole, present a coherent picture in which the Earth was created a very long time ago. Further evidence comes from the complete agreement between radiometric dates and other dating methods such as counting tree rings or glacier ice core layers. Many Christians have been led to distrust radiometric dating and are completely unaware of the great number of laboratory measurements that have shown these methods to be consistent. Many are also unaware that Bible-believing Christians are among those actively involved in radiometric dating. This paper describes in relatively simple terms how a number of the dating techniques work, how accurately the half-lives of the radioactive elements and the rock dates themselves are known, and how dates are checked with one another. In the process the paper refutes a number of misconceptions prevalent among Christians today. This paper is available on the web via the American Scientific Affiliation and related sites to promote greater understanding and wisdom on this issue, particularly within the Christian community. ...differences still occur within the church. A disagreement over the age of the Earth is relatively minor in the whole scope of Christianity; it is more important to agree on the Rock of Ages than on the age of rocks. But because God has also called us to wisdom, this issue is worthy of study. [/snip]

39 posted on 08/10/2011 3:22:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: no gnu taxes

*kof-kof*


40 posted on 08/10/2011 3:30:21 PM PDT by Monkey Face ("...I believe in angels; something good in everything I see..." ABBA)
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