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FBI adds ‘preppers’ to potential terrorists list
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 11 August, 2011 | David Codrea

Posted on 08/12/2011 5:39:07 AM PDT by marktwain

“An FBI Denver Joint Terrorism Task Force handout being distributed to Colorado military surplus store owners lists the purchase of popular preparedness items and firearms accessories as ‘suspicious’ and ‘potential indicators of terrorist activities,’” an exclusive report by Oath Keepers reveals.

Essentially, the government is conflating Americans who believe in being prepared for disruptions in normal circumstances with potential domestic enemies who bear scrutiny, and are recruiting those they patronize to spy and snitch on their customers. As potential terrorists. For such suspicious activities as buying storable food. And paying in legal tender.

This is not a new tactic. Oath Keepers themselves have been targets of a campaign to portray their organization and membership as “militia extremists” and haters, due in large part to the smear efforts by the Southern Poverty Law Center. It has been used against people who champion the Constitution and warn against the United Nations. And it’s not confined to the FBI, but is also used by the Department of Homeland Security and so-called “Fusion Centers” and…

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The left attempts to define anyone who is against them as a terrorist.
1 posted on 08/12/2011 5:39:11 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
FBI adds ‘preppers’ to potential terrorists list

Glad to see they've narrowed down the list to just 50% of all Americans. Keep up the good work, feds...

2 posted on 08/12/2011 5:51:55 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: marktwain

i work and save money to prepare for ‘rainy days’

guess that makes me an extremist and/or terrorist

sounds like standard ‘logic’ for libtards


3 posted on 08/12/2011 5:54:50 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Caipirabob
It is not enough to be quiet and mind your own business anymore.

You MUST drink the Koolaid or else....

4 posted on 08/12/2011 5:55:13 AM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: marktwain

Dang, I just added 3 weeks worth of dehy’s to my supply stock. Guess I’d better turn myself in.


5 posted on 08/12/2011 5:56:07 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: marktwain
There's a liberal movement that's ‘prepping’ for uncertainties too. They're turning back yards into gardens... I'll see if I can find the name of the movement... I'm sure the FBI would be interested in some liberal group doing the same based on ‘peak oil’...
6 posted on 08/12/2011 5:58:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (England.... From Royal fairytale to banana republic in one summer. - - Allister Heath)
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To: marktwain

Matthew Chapter 24 (Douay Rheims) 1] And Jesus being come out of the temple, went away. And his disciples came to shew him the buildings of the temple. [2] And he answering, said to them: Do you see all these things? Amen I say to you there shall not be left here a stone upon a stone that shall not be destroyed. [3] And when he was sitting on mount Olivet, the disciples came to him privately, saying: Tell us when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the consummation of the world? [4] And Jesus answering, said to them: Take heed that no man seduce you: [5] For many will come in my name saying, I am Christ: and they will seduce many.

[6] And you shall hear of wars and rumours of wars. See that ye be not troubled. For these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. [7] For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be pestilences, and famines, and earthquakes in places: [8] Now all these are the beginnings of sorrows. [9] Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall put you to death: and you shall be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. [10] And then shall many be scandalized: and shall betray one another: and shall hate one another.

[11] And many false prophets shall rise, and shall seduce many. [12] And because iniquity hath abounded, the charity of many shall grow cold. [13] But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved. [14] And this gospel of the kingdom, shall be preached in the whole world, for a testimony to all nations, and then shall the consummation come. [15] When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand.

[16] Then they that are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains: [17] And he that is on the housetop, let him not come down to take any thing out of his house: [18] And he that is in the field, let him not go back to take his coat. [19] And woe to them that are with child, and that give suck in those days. [20] But pray that your flight be not in the winter, or on the sabbath.

[21] For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be. [22] And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened. [23] Then if any man shall say to you: Lo here is Christ, or there, do not believe him. [24] For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. [25] Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.

[26] If therefore they shall say to you: Behold he is in the desert, go ye not out: Behold he is in the closets, believe it not. [27] For as lightning cometh out of the east, and appeareth even into the west: so shall the coming of the Son of man be. [28] Wheresoever the body shall be, there shall the eagles also be gathered together. [29] And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be moved: [30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all tribes of the earth mourn: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with much power and majesty. [31] And he shall send his angels with a trumpet, and a great voice: and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the farthest parts of the heavens to the utmost bounds of them. [32] And from the fig tree learn a parable: When the branch thereof is now tender, and the leaves come forth, you know that summer is nigh. [33] So you also, when you shall see all these things, know ye that it is nigh, even at the doors. [34] Amen I say to you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. [35] Heaven and earth shall pass, but my words shall not pass. [36] But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone. [37] And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [38] For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark, [39] And they knew not till the flood came, and took them all away; so also shall the coming of the Son of man be. [40] Then two shall be in the field: one shall be taken, and one shall be left. [41] Two women shall be grinding at the mill: one shall be taken, and one shall be left. [42] Watch ye therefore, because ye know not what hour your Lord will come. [43] But know this ye, that if the goodman of the house knew at what hour the thief would come, he would certainly watch, and would not suffer his house to be broken open. [44] Wherefore be you also ready, because at what hour you know not the Son of man will come. [45] Who, thinkest thou, is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath appointed over his family, to give them meat in season. [46] Blessed is that servant, whom when his lord shall come he shall find so doing. [47] Amen I say to you, he shall place him over all his goods. [48] But if that evil servant shall say in his heart: My lord is long a coming: [49] And shall begin to strike his fellow servants, and shall eat and drink with drunkards: [50] The lord of that servant shall come in a day that he hopeth not, and at an hour that he knoweth not: [51] And shall separate him, and appoint his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

We have been warned.


7 posted on 08/12/2011 5:59:47 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: marktwain
Geeze! A person would be crazy not to stock up and prepare after Oboma. Look at Philadelphia. If the economy tanks even more, and I don't see any way out of it, things are going to get a lot worse. Citizens have families to feed and care for. Oboma isn't going to do anything help them. He's just going to be laughing at them.

The wise man hears of trouble coming and prepares for it. If that trouble does not arrive, he's still much better off because of it - Gandhi

A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences - Proverbs

8 posted on 08/12/2011 6:01:09 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: marktwain

“distributed to Colorado military surplus store owners”

So is this on the initiative of some local FBI Einsatzgruppenfuhrer with ambitions, or is this agency wide?


9 posted on 08/12/2011 6:02:04 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: marktwain

Good! I always knew those damned Preppies were up to no good.
They need to station informants at Vassar and in L.L. Bean.


10 posted on 08/12/2011 6:03:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Clump
It is not enough to be quiet and mind your own business anymore. You MUST drink the Koolaid or else...

It's time for us to start keeping track of numbers. Like how many people do registered democrats kill in the average year. And how many registered Republican kill in the average year. How many Radical Muslim acts of terror in the world - how many Christian acts of terror in the world.

The FBI knows how to do math... they understand the underlying truth - which means they're being played for fools with the hocus pocus bull about dangerous middle aged white people. Aside from the fact that it's racist - it's also laughable stupid.

11 posted on 08/12/2011 6:04:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (England.... From Royal fairytale to banana republic in one summer. - - Allister Heath)
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To: sten

Of course they need to know who the preppers are. How else will they know where to send Obama’s “civilian army” once the SHTF?


12 posted on 08/12/2011 6:06:40 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Yes)
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To: marktwain

Standard procedure for socialism: If you are trying to be independent of the state, you must be a potential enemy.

Those that are dependent on the state can be mostly controlled.


13 posted on 08/12/2011 6:07:54 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
Maybe they want to know who to avoid.
14 posted on 08/12/2011 6:08:53 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Psalm 144

So is this on the initiative of some local FBI Einsatzgruppenfuhrer with ambitions, or is this agency wide?
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now that is a GREAT question.
i haven’t seen anyone comment on this.
if it’s agency wide, i would worry a lot more.
i do not underestimate people like Ayers...


15 posted on 08/12/2011 6:11:49 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Standard procedure for socialism: If you are trying to be independent of the state, you must be a potential enemy.

SOP since Wickard v Filburn. Attmpting to be self-sufficient is a punishable offense.

16 posted on 08/12/2011 6:13:14 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Psalm 144

Yeah, go and get some camping gear, and/or outfit your son for some ROTC activities... Now apparently I’m going to end up on a watch list? Great. Yeah, I’m prepared for a number of things. Just one example: there is a survival “go” bag in the back of my car at all times.


17 posted on 08/12/2011 6:13:21 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: marktwain
Yesterday while driving, I was behind this beautiful big Truck, and written on the back window "OATH KEEPERS.ORG." in big gold lettering.

Boy, was I happy and proud of that guy. While driving all I could do was give him the THUMBS up and hope he saw it. That is one brave fellow. Very inspiring.

18 posted on 08/12/2011 6:14:36 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: marktwain

Does this mean that my stash of #10 cans of B&M baked beans are now listed as weapons of (m)ass destruction?

These guys have been listening to too much Firesign Theater.


19 posted on 08/12/2011 6:18:00 AM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: marktwain

Maybe they want a list of those who have food storage so they can try to grab it (to redistribute), if the sh*t hits the fan. Scary.


20 posted on 08/12/2011 6:19:35 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: ThunderSleeps

“Now apparently I’m going to end up on a watch list?”

We are here. We already are.


21 posted on 08/12/2011 6:22:55 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: GOPJ

“which means they’re being played for fools”

I don’t think they are being played for fools. They have been politicians with badges for a long time. They crave press coverage and this plays to the press.


22 posted on 08/12/2011 6:23:15 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: marktwain
The left is going to freak out when the Republicans take over all three positions in 2012. They'll be more like animals than humans. Everyone should be prepared for it.

Look at how they acted in Wisconsin simply because the union was asked to pay just a small portion of their own support. Imagine what the welfare freeloaders are going to do when they're asked to cut back on their free handouts.

23 posted on 08/12/2011 6:25:28 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: marktwain

.pdf of the FBI handout is here:

http://bit.ly/nJTGWJ


24 posted on 08/12/2011 6:29:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: marktwain
I keep sayin' it...

I just hope they have my name spelled right.

25 posted on 08/12/2011 6:32:09 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.)
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To: GOPJ

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks


26 posted on 08/12/2011 6:32:31 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: marktwain

Bfl.


27 posted on 08/12/2011 6:34:05 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: marktwain

There was a woman who lived a couple miles from me who was a prepper. She died and they sold her stuff at an auction, including her survival food, it went really high and had multiple bidders. There are more Preppers than people think.


28 posted on 08/12/2011 6:34:33 AM PDT by tiki
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To: marktwain

Sheesh, there’s an entire Prepper community on YouTube. I subscribe to maybe two dozen different channels.

I’ll be waiting for the FBI knock on my door...


29 posted on 08/12/2011 6:35:05 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Won’t matter if your name is spelled right, I’d be surprised if half the agents in Emperor bammy’s FBI can read.

One doesn’t need to read to follow orders and pull triggers.


30 posted on 08/12/2011 6:37:35 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: marktwain

“Bureau of Justice Assistance”

Why was I not aware there was such a group?

Here is why, they pay local/state government with grants to do their bidding: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/BJA/funding/index.html

General Funding Information

Current and Upcoming Funding Opportunities

FY 2010 Grant Awards

Important Progress Reporting Announcement for BJA Grant Recipients

What country did this type of thing? Was it Germany before WWII? You answer.


31 posted on 08/12/2011 6:38:19 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: marktwain

Bfl.


32 posted on 08/12/2011 6:39:15 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: marktwain

ping


33 posted on 08/12/2011 6:39:40 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: marktwain

The left attempts to define anyone who is against them as a terrorist.


Last I checked, only 20% of Americans define themselves as liberals and even less socialist. It is Leftists versus, at best, eighty percent of America. Good luck with that.


34 posted on 08/12/2011 6:42:19 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Caipirabob

This means that they will have to investigate Costco and Sam’s customers because both sell”prepper” storable food. I wonder how members of the Al Gore loving Costco set will like being considered potential terrorists.


35 posted on 08/12/2011 6:42:48 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: marktwain

The wider the definition, the more rabbit chasing they will do. Then comes “We don’t have enough staff to chase all of these rabbits, you must increase our funding.”


36 posted on 08/12/2011 6:42:54 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: marktwain

And sometimes I wear a black hat and carry a backpack!


37 posted on 08/12/2011 6:47:07 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: marktwain

I don’t know about you, but anyone who would pay any attention whatsoever to anything that the Southern Poverty Law Center has to say about prepping, are exactly the people I and many others are prepping to defend ourselves from WTSHTF....

Come git some...


38 posted on 08/12/2011 6:50:32 AM PDT by Bean Counter ("He who has a why to live can bear almost any how.".....Nietzsche)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...
PING!
39 posted on 08/12/2011 6:51:44 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: marktwain

Skippy and Buffy???
Terrorists???
O M G !!


40 posted on 08/12/2011 6:52:58 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: tiki
There are more Preppers than people think.

Yep. The "writing on the wall" is more than obvious.
I know the radical left is going to freak in 2012 when they lose big. I can see it all now. Like in the UK, people and businesses will have no choice but defend themselves.
The socialists have run out of other peoples money. Now what? The left will have to go through withdrawal symptoms, so it's going to get ugly.

41 posted on 08/12/2011 6:55:36 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Kartographer

Thank God!

I thought no one ever notice me....

Idiotic chumps doing everything they can to justify their existence at the expense of real human and American lives.


42 posted on 08/12/2011 7:11:23 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: marktwain

It is high time that a lot of people start frequenting Army Surplus stores to stock up on supplies. When the FBI is overwhelmed with stupid leads to follow some of the idiocy may stop. Do you suppose that the next thing they will be watching are Sam’s Clubs? People buy supplies in bulk there also. Imagine if all the intel starts to indicate that ‘people are buying supplies in bulk’. This tells me that they are preparing for Armageddon. A self-fulfilling prophesy is something that the government should not invite. If they think they can turn this into another crisis that they can fix, they may find themselves sadly mistaken. The old Boy Scout motto should be regarded, ‘BE PREPARED’, should be words for all law-abiding citizens to live by.


43 posted on 08/12/2011 7:12:39 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: Caipirabob

I carry some Mountain House meals in my luggage, the one I check, not he carry-on for times when I can’t get to a store or restaurant or am just too tired to get grub.

I wonder if that little habit will set off the TSA bells?


44 posted on 08/12/2011 7:14:55 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Kartographer
All:
Here is another link that doesn't chew up all your computer resources:
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/fbi-adds-preppers-to-potential-terrorists-list?render=print#print
 
ives.
45 posted on 08/12/2011 7:14:57 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: ctdonath2

Looking at this other way, maybe someone(s) wants to know who to raid when those who didn’t prepare need supplies? Grasshopper and Ant?


46 posted on 08/12/2011 7:15:50 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Ok... I hope they have my street address right. My neighbors are decent folk and don’t deserve to have their dogs shot.


47 posted on 08/12/2011 7:27:51 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Yep. If the govt doesn’t know where all the preppers are how will they spread the wealth around when the SHTF?


48 posted on 08/12/2011 7:29:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: GOPJ
There's a liberal movement that's ‘prepping’ for uncertainties too. They're turning back yards into gardens...

I think there is someone living in Government Housing (at 1600 Pennsylvania Av Washington DC) doing that.

49 posted on 08/12/2011 7:29:50 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: Dead Corpse
This brings up a question ... (maybe it should not be asked) Why, at this point in time, is there such a thing as a computer?

Is it because what can be used for good, can also be used for evil?

Good Luck everyone. Keep your powder dry, and if it comes down to as may well be ... Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition.

50 posted on 08/12/2011 7:37:39 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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