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The Wind-Energy Myth - The claims for this “green” source of energy wither in the Texas heat.
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | August 12, 2011 | Robert Bryce

Posted on 08/13/2011 10:01:29 AM PDT by neverdem

The Wind-Energy Myth
The claims for this "green" source of energy wither in the Texas heat.

Hot? Don’t count on wind energy to cool you down. That’s the lesson emerging from the stifling heat wave that’s hammering Texas.

Over the past week or so, Texans have been consuming record-breaking quantities of electricity, and ERCOT, the state’s grid operator, has warned of rolling blackouts if customers don’t reduce their consumption. 

Texas has 10,135 megawatts of installed wind-generation capacity. That’s nearly three times as much as any other state. But during three sweltering days last week, when the state set new records for electricity demand, the state’s vast herd of turbines proved incapable of producing any serious amount of power. 

Consider the afternoon of August 2, when electricity demand hit 67,929 megawatts. Although electricity demand and prices were peaking, output from the state’s wind turbines was just 1,500 megawatts, or about 15 percent of their total nameplate capacity. Put another way, wind energy was able to provide only about 2.2 percent of the total power demand even though the installed capacity of Texas’s wind turbines theoretically equals nearly 15 percent of peak demand. This was no anomaly. On four days in August 2010, when electricity demand set records, wind energy was able to contribute just 1, 2, 1, and 1 percent, respectively, of total demand.

Over the past few years, about $17 billion has been spent installing wind turbines in Texas. Another $8 billion has been allocated for transmission lines to carry the electricity generated by the turbines to distant cities. And now, Texas ratepayers are on the hook for much of that $25 billion, even though they can’t count on the wind to keep their air conditioners running when temperatures soar. 

That $25 billion could have been used to build about 5,000 megawatts of highly reliable nuclear generation capacity, or as much as 25,000 megawatts of natural-gas-fired capacity, all of which could have been reliably put to work during the hottest days of summer. 

The wind-energy lobby has been masterly at garnering huge subsidies and mandates by claiming that its product is a “green” alternative to conventional electricity. But the hype has obscured a dirty little secret: When power demand is highest, wind energy’s output is generally low. The reverse is also true: Wind-energy production is usually highest during the middle of the night, when electricity use is lowest. 

The incurable intermittency and extreme variability of wind energy requires utilities and grid operators to continue relying on conventional sources of generation like coal, natural gas, and nuclear fuel. Nevertheless, 29 states, plus the District of Columbia, now have renewable-energy mandates. Those expensive mandates cannot be met with solar energy, which, despite enormous growth in recent years, still remains a tiny player in the renewable sector. If policymakers want to meet those mandates, landowners and citizens will have to learn to live with sprawling forests of noisy, 45-story-tall wind turbines. 

The main motive for installing all those turbines is that they are supposed to help reduce carbon-dioxide emissions, which, in turn, is supposed to help prevent global temperature increases. But it’s already hot — really hot — in Texas and other parts of the southern United States. And that leads to an obvious question: If the global-warming catastrophists are right, and it’s going to get even hotter, then why the heck are we putting up wind turbines that barely work when it’s hot? 

 — Robert Bryce is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. His fourth book, Power Hungry: The Myths of “Green” Energy and the Real Fuels of the Future, was recently issued in paperback. 



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: energy; texasenergy; windenergy; windpower
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To: neverdem
"Hot? Don’t count on wind energy to cool you down. That’s the lesson emerging from the stifling heat wave that’s hammering Texas."

The Marching Morons (C. M. Kornbluth)

Wind turbines in Texas? You've gotta be kidding me. ...maybe around Corpus Christi or something like that, but in central Texas?

If y'all want to learn something about wind turbines, go to Otherpower.com.

If you're in one of the few areas that get enough wind and want to build one of those, you'd better have some welding, steel fab, machining experience and industrial/construction safety experience.

Well, I reckon that leaves nearly all political banditos outside of the realm of credibility on the wind power discussion. Energy is a job for us feared technocrats, who will be on the loose and unregulated before long.

Have fun. Enjoy the slide. I know that I will.


41 posted on 08/13/2011 12:50:33 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a noisy avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: neverdem

I think the turbine problem will resolve itself. The thieves are going to run out of copper & air conditioners to steal and sell for recycling. the only things left to steal will be the wind turbines.


42 posted on 08/13/2011 12:55:09 PM PDT by stylin19a (obama..."Fredo-Smart")
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To: Tex-Con-Man
"Most Texans know...when it’s 110 degrees, there’s very little breeze."

Yup. Head for Padre, or cluster around Garner State Park. And look at it this way. This is about all the solar maximum that we're going to get. Extended minimums are more about extreme fluctuations than steady cold. We who moved to high places on the Rockies will probably be seeing some unearthly cold spots in about three or four years (maybe some nights down to 40, 60 below, with the usual 80 mph wind gusts).

Oh, and anyone who wants to get much from wind or sun has to pay the price of brutal climate. ...and hard work, because most of the junk on the market is overpriced and not very durable--bearings in commercial small turbines burning up too quickly, among other things, and SRCC approved (Florida lab, of all places) collectors running too hot and expensive.

Most people on all sides of alternative energy arguments are full of beans.


43 posted on 08/13/2011 1:02:42 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a noisy avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: neverdem

I can’t sleep well without a floor fan blowing on me all night.

In order to power that fan by wind i believe i would need a slightly bigger fan out in my backyard with wind spinning it at a slightly faster rate than the one inside for 8 hours straight while i sleep.

Ya ok.
Makes sense.
Whats billions and billions of dollars anyways?


44 posted on 08/13/2011 1:05:40 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Squantos
Good arguments! I have an even better climate for wind, but we have to build the good turbines ourselves. ...even better for sun here (well over 300 days out of the year). Agreed on nuclear for commercial. That would be the best answer that I know of for air conditioning down there.

I heard that nuclear needs a lot of water for cooling, though. ...maybe around the Gulf Coast for Texas? Will ocean water work for that? And in the dryer parts of the West here, that might be a no-go. But many of us in the West already have better conditions for sun (especially), wind, etc. ...and real nasty weather (dry, cold, windy, high, etc.). We on the northern half of the Range don't need air conditioning, though.

Northern wet places? Nuclear would probably be great in those, along with wood/coal boilers for homes and the like.


45 posted on 08/13/2011 1:13:31 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a noisy avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: dhs12345

You could maybe store the energy in one or many giant spinning flywheel/gyro contraptions.


46 posted on 08/13/2011 1:13:45 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: cc2k

Yeah, that worked out fine at Taum Sauk.


47 posted on 08/13/2011 1:17:49 PM PDT by steve8714 (Did anyone else note the "Howlin' Commandos" in the Captain America Movie?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Change a few words, and I have been preaching this for years:
So build natural gas nuclear powered desalinization plants and pipelines to ship the water inland.
And when those reservoirs are filled, use electricity generated from natural gas uranium to pipe the water to ever deeper inland reservoirs power hydroelectric generation.

Texas isn't always in a drought, but it always gets insanely hot in the summer - and since Texas is drawing people from all over the planet to live and work here, we can't possibly keep up with the growing electricity needs.

48 posted on 08/13/2011 1:26:33 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: dhs12345

lol
i should have read the rest of your post.


49 posted on 08/13/2011 1:27:40 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The Gulf Coast has a vast amount of water, albeit salt water. But underneath the Gulf Coast is an enormous amount of natural gas.

Geothermal heat sinking, while capital intensive, is a good way to go.

50 posted on 08/13/2011 2:16:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: exit82

Because global warming is a myth to control people. It is a way to cripple a country. Fits Marxist doctrine to rot the country from the inside and hamstring us with laws.


51 posted on 08/13/2011 2:56:55 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: mowowie

Yes. Spinning objects seem to work well with AC power. Wonder how big they would have to be? Windmills are pretty big.


52 posted on 08/13/2011 3:13:15 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: neverdem
Al Gore: Potty Mouth Tantrum as Global Warming Scam is Exposed
53 posted on 08/13/2011 3:20:37 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: familyop

Cooling can be contained aka closed loop systems with multiple enclosed cisterns etc for thorium units. I see your concerns yet most that use such are very old designs.

I think it can be done.

Another thing to consider is new building codes that require extensive insulation efforts. My homes shell is double stud wall construction with expanding foam insulation. Titanium white metal roof with large overhangs / eaves an front an back porches.

Windows are pella triple pane an storm windows etc are triple pane with a UV thermal reflective tinting film.

Solar roof vents an fans as well.

My HVAC is a deep well system that keeps the home about 70 degrees so far this summer. It was / is a hot summer here in the panhandle of Texas. Insulation makes a difference that pays off ....

Rolling brownouts still get me but if power goes out at 2PM in 100 degree heat the house will stay comfortable the rest of the day. Sort of like living in a Coleman cooler inside a Coleman cooler.....:o)


54 posted on 08/13/2011 3:23:34 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Salamander
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55 posted on 08/13/2011 3:39:15 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: neverdem

Long-time lurker here. I’m a newly retired “clean energy” entrepreneur (just sold my company to a foreign conglomerate) I’m glad to see this posted – Bryce is a recovering duck-scrubber that has been a great voice in the wilderness about the wind farm scam – check out some of his videos on youtube.

Several comments to add to the conversation:

1) the graph’s purpose is to show that wind power is out of phase with demand and, thus, cannot be considered a load resource – what this means is that the investment is essentially wasted because demand growth must be met with nuclear or fossil fuel plants (mostly Natgas these days).

2) regarding “how this happens in Texas?” (I’m from Austin area) – it’s pretty simple. The 29 states that require some percentage of the energy be “renewable” and the other areas (cities) create a market for a renewable energy credit [REC] – a unit of wind power creates a REC that gets sold to the power providers and gets “bolted on” to a coal-fired unit and magically, the coal power is now “green”. Obviously, it’s just a government-sponsored scam.

Storage (of any sort) appears to be a long, long way off. Solar is the fuel of tomorrow — and always will be.


56 posted on 08/13/2011 4:17:29 PM PDT by staylowandkeepmoving
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To: Graybeard58

You have to remember that to Al Gore that is not a lie. He probably believes it. He probably believes that some time during his marriage he actually made Tipoper have an orgasm.


57 posted on 08/13/2011 5:22:41 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: staylowandkeepmoving
I’m a newly retired “clean energy” entrepreneur (just sold my company to a foreign conglomerate)...

Interesting... What can you reveal about the company and its "clean energy" methodology?

58 posted on 08/13/2011 5:23:46 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: cynwoody

A new type of AC storage device that actually works. Should be on the market in 2 - 3 yrs.

59 posted on 08/13/2011 8:20:13 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: neverdem
Free energy!
Get your free energy here!

Idiots at all levels.

60 posted on 08/13/2011 11:28:29 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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