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Germany marks 50 years since Berlin Wall.
BBC ^ | 08/13/11 | BBC

Posted on 08/13/2011 2:01:36 PM PDT by Winstons Julia

Addressing the ceremony on Bernauer Street, famously divided by the Wall and now site of a memorial, Mayor Wowereit said the capital was remembering the "saddest day in its recent history". "It is our common responsibility to keep alive the memories and pass them on to the next generation, to maintain freedom and democracy and to do everything so that such injustices may never happen again," he said. At a ceremony at a former crossing-point, President Wulff said the wall had been "an expression of fear" of those who created it.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anniversary; berlin; berlinwall; coldwar; germany; wall; years

1 posted on 08/13/2011 2:01:38 PM PDT by Winstons Julia
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To: Winstons Julia

I was in Germany when they built that damn thing and it caused all the troops stationed there to be extended for a number of months. I was supposed to rotate back to the states after 24 months but had to stay until my enlistment ran out, which made my stay 31 months instead. None of us were too happy, except for the fact that the war that was expected to start over the building of the wall never happened, but we did have to go on alert.


2 posted on 08/13/2011 2:06:05 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Thank you for your service.


3 posted on 08/13/2011 2:06:57 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Compared tho The Great Wall of China, it wasn’t that impressive.


4 posted on 08/13/2011 2:16:01 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Winstons Julia

Wowereit? Wulff? Two scumbag politicians that make conservative Germans wish the wall was back - with them on the other side.


5 posted on 08/13/2011 2:19:56 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Here’s part of it: http://www.churchillmemorial.org/highlights/Pages/Breakthrough.aspx


6 posted on 08/13/2011 2:20:12 PM PDT by netguide (Use this browser instead of Internet Exploder)
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To: calex59
A buddy was stationed in West Germany. He had a Masters in German from the U of Missouri.
He was a “listener” to East German radio traffic.

His insights were fun...

7 posted on 08/13/2011 2:26:26 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Winstons Julia

How long since Kennedy declared that he was a jelly donut?


8 posted on 08/13/2011 2:29:42 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: calex59

I was in the Philippines when they built the wall. The entire PACAF went on full alert. Didn’t make much sense to me then.


9 posted on 08/13/2011 2:34:03 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Winstons Julia

The tearing down of the Berlin Wall and the fall of the Soviet Union are among the too-rare proofs that good things can happen in world events. The Wall was erected before I was born and I never thought it would come down in my lifetime.


10 posted on 08/13/2011 2:44:02 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Winstons Julia
"It is our common responsibility to keep alive the memories and pass them on to the next generation,

That goes for the "OVENS" too!

11 posted on 08/13/2011 2:50:41 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: calex59
I knew a guy that was also in Germany at the time, a newly minted
junior officer. His unit was rushed into West Berlin, and he said
the aircraft above the convoy had red stars, not white.
12 posted on 08/13/2011 2:53:09 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I was stationed in West Berlin from 84-88. I, too, never thought the wall would come down.


13 posted on 08/13/2011 3:03:40 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: bigbob
How long since Kennedy declared that he was a jelly donut?

Ha! Good one. I'm not sure, but I think Jackie explained the secret meaning of that term in her tapes.

14 posted on 08/13/2011 3:13:22 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Inheritance taxes are not taxes; they are expropriation. -- L. Von Mises)
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To: Winstons Julia

Thanks, Gipper!

15 posted on 08/13/2011 3:31:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Winstons Julia
Tomorrow's headlines TODAY:

Wowereit Wows the Right!


16 posted on 08/13/2011 3:35:28 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Moltke

Yeah, like Wow, right?

:)


17 posted on 08/13/2011 3:40:30 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Freedom is saying "No!" to the Feds, and getting away with it. "Speak 'NO' to Power!")
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To: dfwgator

Yup.


18 posted on 08/13/2011 4:04:40 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Moltke; Revolting cat!

It’s been awhile since I was in Europe. Not to well-versed in German politics. Sorry if something in the story offended. I just thought it was interesting.


19 posted on 08/13/2011 4:06:52 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Winstons Julia

*too


20 posted on 08/13/2011 4:07:39 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Winstons Julia

“Mr Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!””. President Ronald Reagen.


21 posted on 08/13/2011 4:39:14 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: calex59

I was in the states when the Soviets moved to build the wall in Berlin. I had an MOS that seemed certain to be chosen and I expected to be called back to duty. However, my length of obligation ended shortly afterward. Those were nervous times as no one expected that the USA would sit back and let the Russians move unilaterally.


22 posted on 08/13/2011 4:54:09 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: dfwgator

Here’s a weird, “prophetic” bit from Laugh-In, 1969. (They were only off by a year).


23 posted on 08/13/2011 5:08:12 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: dfwgator

Here’s a weird, “prophetic” bit from Laugh-In, 1969. (They were only off by a year).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLlWbDu30PI


24 posted on 08/13/2011 5:09:30 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: Ax
I was in the Philippines when they built the wall. The entire PACAF went on full alert. Didn’t make much sense to me then.

Yep, we were called into the ready room and told we were going to deploy to the Fulda Gap, a traditional invasion route into Germany, and we were told that on our right flank would be a French infantry unit and out our left flank would be a French "Heavy(Get the heavy part)Motorcycle battalion.

Since we were an Armor outfit(Combat Command A) with armored infantry in support the idea of foot soldiers on one flank and motorcycles(heavy ones/SAR)on the other didn't exactly thrill us. Fortunately the expected attack didn't come about, probably due to the fact we were all alerted so fully, and we never did deploy to the Gap, but we spent long hours in the tank park waiting for orders.

25 posted on 08/13/2011 6:12:29 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

It sure made for some “interesting times,” didn’t it?


26 posted on 08/13/2011 6:19:12 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Winstons Julia

It is interesting to read the reports of the guys who were on the front lines, and how the U.S. ended up merely posturing, while millions behind that Curtain continued to suffer. (I read that the last armed opponent of the communist tyrants was captured in the mid 60s in Poland, 20 years after Yalta and Teheran.)


27 posted on 08/13/2011 6:23:21 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I was over in Europe before the wall came down.

A German colleague of my father’s managed to get his elderly and terminally ill aunt over to West Germany to visit her family before she was going to die. Then...she magically made it across another border without East Germany knowing it.

She wanted to know Americans and have an America party and we threw one for her with American goodies from the commissary. We had a cookout.

The woman positively MARVELED at a fruit salad that had strawberries and kiwis because they just never got them in East Germany.

She had a great visit and then went back to East Germany and passed away. I’ll never forget to appreciate my strawberries.


28 posted on 08/13/2011 6:49:30 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Nice story. People were streaming across that border before the wall went up, which made up for the reason they built it. And it violated every agreement the allies had made with the Soviets and their vassal the DDR. We could have stopped it and didn’t! As it turned out 30 years later the Soviets were weak.


29 posted on 08/13/2011 6:54:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Ax; calex59

Thanks for being here and thanks for being there.


30 posted on 08/13/2011 6:55:10 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Winstons Julia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85xubRUaYSg

Lots of interesting footage on youtube - here’s a good one from the beginning of it all.


31 posted on 08/13/2011 6:59:27 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: Revolting cat!

I was also in Europe when the wall came down.

I was not in Berlin... but ... I would imagine that the sentiment amongst the European population was a kind of buzz not unlike the buzz that occurred when they knew the Americans were about to liberate them ...


32 posted on 08/13/2011 7:03:23 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Winstons Julia

No offense taken (or given I hope) - just my opinion of two politicos.


33 posted on 08/14/2011 4:09:27 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: jmacusa

We were stationed in West Berlin when President Reagan visited and my wife was in the audience when he made that speech. She still gets goosebumps whenever she sees that speech on TV.


34 posted on 08/14/2011 4:49:05 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

God Bless you both. Good Lord, do we need Ronald Reagan now.


35 posted on 08/14/2011 6:11:35 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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