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Health care ballot issue advances (Nov 8 - Ohio votes on Commiecare™ and collective bargaining)
The Courier ^ | 8/13/11

Posted on 8/14/2011, 7:04:50 PM by Libloather

Health care ballot issue advances
Saturday, August 13, 2011

COLUMBUS (AP) -- Opponents of the federal health care overhaul championed by President Barack Obama scored a key legal victory on Friday that should clear a proposed ballot measure for a fall vote in a pivotal state.

The chance for voters to reject parts of insurance changes will appear Nov. 8, alongside a ballot issue seeking to repeal a contentious rewrite of Ohio's law restricting collective bargaining. The first is expected to bring out Republican-leaning voters, and the other is expected to bring out Democrats in a state closely divided along political lines.

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Backers of the measure lauded the decision. Ohioans for Healthcare Freedom campaign manager Jeff Longstreth said it will allow "voters to have a choice this fall if healthcare decisions should be made by patients and doctors or politicians in Washington, D.C."

Husted announced July 27 that the coalition of tea party organizations and other groups behind the measure that submitted 427,000 valid signatures, well over the roughly 385,000 needed to get the amendment on the Nov. 8 ballot.

The proposed amendment to Ohio's Constitution would keep people from being required to buy health insurance or face penalties. The federal mandate would go into effect in 2014, when new competitive insurance exchanges are scheduled to open.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: ballot; commiecare; healthcare; ohio
The federal mandate would go into effect in 2014...

That probably depends on the Supremes.

1 posted on 8/14/2011, 7:04:57 PM by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Agreed. But, as it stands, the federal mandate is history...until it get to the Supreme Court.


2 posted on 8/14/2011, 7:13:12 PM by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Bushbacker1

Obamacare has already reached the Supreme Court, simply waiting for the Justices to return from vacation and take it up.


3 posted on 8/14/2011, 7:25:14 PM by cranked
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To: Libloather

The only democrats that will vote to overturn SB5 are the ones who belong to the teachers union and the mooches who don’t pay taxes the rat of them know that if they overturn this then property/income taxes will go up to pay them.Ohio has already had an upgrade to it’s credit rating by S&P at about the same time they downgraded the USA so already it is showing promise.


4 posted on 8/14/2011, 7:37:59 PM by chris_bdba
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To: Bushbacker1
But, as it stands, the federal mandate is history

I believe this is only strictly true as a matter of law in the 11th Circuit, is it not?

5 posted on 8/14/2011, 7:49:14 PM by FredZarguna (Filibustering feverishly against the passage of several of the laws of Physics I find objectionable.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Libloather. Sidebar:
6 posted on 8/14/2011, 8:18:26 PM by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Libloather

This could be bad news for the anti-SB5 people.

If it were just the anti-SB5 measure on the ballot, they may have scored their repeal. But now, since a referendum on Commiecare will be on the ballot as well, this may bring the anti-Commiecare voters out in droves and, if they are well-informed, that may dash the hopes of those wanting to repeal SB5.

Like I said, this COULD be bad news for them. It’s always possible for people to oppose Commiecare while buying the propaganda of the anti-SB5 folks. Hopefully, though, those informed enough on both will get out and vote to oppose 0bamacare and beat back a repeal of SB5.


7 posted on 8/14/2011, 9:05:14 PM by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: FredZarguna
I believe this is only strictly true as a matter of law in the 11th Circuit, is it not?

And even that depends on how willing Obama is to simply ignore the ruling. Obama's attitude may be (to paraphrase his ideological mentor, Stalin) "How many divisions does the 11th circuit have?"

8 posted on 8/14/2011, 9:11:43 PM by KarlInOhio (The Repubs and Dems are arguing whether to pour 9 or 10 buckets of gasoline on a burning house.)
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To: Libloather; LibLieSlayer; socialismisinsidious; GailA; Atom Smasher; ExTexasRedhead; Yaelle; ...
...2014, when new competitive insurance exchanges are scheduled to open.

Competitive? That's a cruel joke. Any policies offered in these exchanges will be overpriced because they must include mandated coverages that individual consumers don't necessarily want or need, as per ObamaCare. The problem is that individual or family choices of policy offered by these "exchanges" will be severely restricted!!!

ObamaCare must be repealed: the whole darn 2,000+ pages of it!

9 posted on 8/14/2011, 9:19:41 PM by justiceseeker93
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To: chris_bdba
I'm an Ohio teacher who is forced to belong to the union. I have a couple of teacher friends that I thought were conservative. Actually, if you asked them right now they would tell you that they are hardcore conservatives. Unfortunately they are anti-SB5, and they simply spew the union propaganda lines when asked why. Our teacher's restroom is the posting area for union propaganda. I take a magic marker with me and correct the fliers. I look at it like this: If they think that collective bargaining is a right, then I have the right to pee without having to look at lies plastering the walls.
10 posted on 8/14/2011, 9:20:08 PM by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: cranked

When did the Supreme Court get it? The 11th just ruled on it and I don’t believe any other circuits have. Plus, I believe the 11th decision effect 26 states.


11 posted on 8/14/2011, 11:37:57 PM by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Bushbacker1
When did the Supreme Court get it?

I've heard this mess will be decided before the 2012 presidential election.

12 posted on 8/15/2011, 1:29:36 AM by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: KarlInOhio
True Dat.

This administration has been admonished several times for simply ignoring rulings from the Federal Bench. But my point was, the latest ruling on Constitutionality only strictly applies where the 11th Circuit Appellate Court has jurisdiction, and to my knowledge they do not have special jurisdiction over purely Federal matters as the DC Appellate Court does.

So the mandate is only actually dead in Alabama, Georgia and Florida until the Supremes weigh in.

13 posted on 8/15/2011, 1:52:53 AM by FredZarguna (The 14th Amendment claim was never a serious argument, any more than the General Welfare Clause.)
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To: justiceseeker93

And you can bet if you have existing health conditions even minor ones you will be in the high risk pool.


14 posted on 8/15/2011, 1:53:10 PM by GailA (Any congress critter who fails to keep faith with the Military, will NOT keep faith with YOU!)
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To: GailA
And you can bet that if you have existing health conditions even minor ones you will be in the high risk pool.

IIRC, there will be no "high risk pool" under ObamaCare exchanges. Only "community rating" will be allowed, which is sure to increase premiums.

15 posted on 8/15/2011, 2:20:52 PM by justiceseeker93
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To: Bushbacker1
The SCOTUS has received a petition for a writ of certiorari in Thomas More Law Center v. Obama[care].
16 posted on 8/15/2011, 11:09:06 PM by cranked
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To: cranked

Thanks.


17 posted on 8/15/2011, 11:54:58 PM by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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