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Scotland: Gran killer turns Muslim to dodge work (converts to Islam for special treatment)
The Scottish Sun ^ | August 15, 2011 | Paul Thornton

Posted on 08/15/2011 2:46:59 AM PDT by Stoat

Gran killer turns Muslim to dodge work

 

A BRUTE who murdered a gran has converted to Islam behind bars - so he can avoid work.

Evil David Millar - who stabbed frail 82-year-old Lucy Marshall to death - will skip his duties in the laundry because of his new faith.

He will be excused from work on Fridays so he can attend prayers.

And he's told pals he'll not have to do chores during the holy month of Ramadan.

The 28-year-old will also receive special halal meals such as curries at Dumfries prison.

Murdered ... Lucy
Murdered ... Lucy
One jail source said: "He works in the laundry but wants to use his new-found faith to get out of it.

"He's told a few of his cronies he won't have to work for the whole of Ramadan, which us basically like getting a month off his duties.

"It's so see-through."

JJail sources claim Millar - who was just 14 when he knifed Lucy in a Buckfast-fuelled frenzy in 1997 in Cowdenbeath, Fife - showed no previous interest in Islam before his conversion.

But it's believed the fitness fanatic thought a Muslim diet would aid his weight training.

One guard said: "It came out of the blue.

"But we're duty-bound to help once a prisoner decides to become Muslim."

 

Killer ... Millar
Killer ... Millar

Millar - who was detained without limit of time - married behind bars after meeting wife Sheree Malik, 29, on an online dating website for cons.

The SPS said it could not comment on individual cases. /p>

LLast month we revealed how wife killer Malcolm Webster, 52, became a Muslim convert because he fancied better grub.



 


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crime; islam; muslim; scotland
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1 posted on 08/15/2011 2:47:12 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat
I wonder how much this idiot thought about this conversion before he did it.

It may not work out so well for him. Some Muslims take it pretty seriously after all. He could get some pretty serious beatings from them if he does not take it seriously.

Imagine if he should decide that the bacon in the mess hall smells very good some morning and he eats a slice. His fellow Muslims just might beat the crap out of him.

If he doesn’t pray to Mecca 5 times a day they just might beat the crap out of him.

If he gets tired of all of the requirements of being a faithful Muslim and tells them he has converted to Christianity they just might kill him.

Suppose he has a jail house love affair with some young new inmate and is caught by his fellow Muslims he could end up dead.

2 posted on 08/15/2011 2:57:42 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Agreed, and considering the reputation for easygoing environments that many UK (and US) prisons have, I’m guessing that muslim inmates may well have access to news and perhaps internet. They may not take it well when they read the Sun story, or this FR thread, and develop the feeling that he’s exposing their special privileges to the world as well as bringing worldwide derision upon their ‘religion’.
We’ve all read stories of how ‘justice’ among inmates is done inside prisons, and it’s one of the many things that remind most of us that prisons are places that we don’t want to be in.


3 posted on 08/15/2011 3:14:52 AM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Pontiac

Oh STOP already!! Muslims will not beat him. They are a “Religion of Peace”.


4 posted on 08/15/2011 3:15:00 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Pontiac

Slammies comprise a bullying, jealous religion the likes of which the world does not know. Pulling back away from them will not be trivial. If the idjit is lucky some prominent imam will declare he never meant it. If unlucky he’ll have to live out his life in solitary protective confinement.


5 posted on 08/15/2011 3:20:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Stoat

Better food and less work. Under these circumstances I would be tempted to go Muslim too. Only drawback is prostrating to a false god 5x daily


6 posted on 08/15/2011 3:24:19 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT -- works better if you're already smart)
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To: Pontiac

As far as thinking about the conversion, prolly as much as he thought about how wild he’d get on that Buckfast hyper caffeinated wine.


7 posted on 08/15/2011 3:26:18 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: dennisw

As if the lad had any, heh, integrity?


8 posted on 08/15/2011 3:27:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Stoat

“after meeting wife Sheree Malik, 29, on an online dating website for cons.”

Yuppers.

If *I* were single, that’s the very first place I’d go look for a man.

/facepalm


9 posted on 08/15/2011 3:28:00 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m noticing a number of YouTube videos where various thugs, yobs, ne’er do wells, etc attempt to set a record in drinking an entire bottle of that stuff in just a few seconds.

Search Youtube for “Buckfast” for some frightening and sad societal commentary. Many are obviously just young kids.

I’m guessing that it’s much like Thunderbird or other “bum wines” here in the USA. Probably makes you go blind after a while.


10 posted on 08/15/2011 3:39:11 AM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Salamander

There’s a whole subculture of women who are attracted to men in prison. I don’t know anything about it but I’m guessing that they share various sad and / or unsavory traits. It may well be a psychiatric condition.


11 posted on 08/15/2011 3:42:19 AM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

It’s likened to quaffing eight cans of Coca-Cola along with a potent wine. The stuff was invented by monks, who doubtless sipped it sparingly with consummate Christian self control (how many monk wildings have you heard about lately?)


12 posted on 08/15/2011 3:50:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Stoat

i’d call them bully-holics


13 posted on 08/15/2011 3:51:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Stoat

Darn.

I must be lacking that particular psychosis.

Call me crazy, but I’ve always tended towards *avoiding* criminals as romantic prospects.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 3:52:42 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Stoat

Being ignorant of such things, I Googled it;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine

All I can say is...*bleah!*.


15 posted on 08/15/2011 3:56:38 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Stoat

Aw come on Scotland just let the guy out like you did the terrorist who blew up the jet, and stop pretending you want to punish him!


16 posted on 08/15/2011 3:56:52 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Salamander

The lowdown: http://www.bumwine.com/others.html


17 posted on 08/15/2011 3:58:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well, there was that whole ‘Inquisition’ episode.

;D


18 posted on 08/15/2011 3:59:03 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
i’d call them bully-holics

 

Sounds good and to-the-point.

I would imagine that Buckfast played a prominent role in the recent rioting in the UK.

Undoubtedly, there will be multimillion-pound studies to analyze that question as well as numerous laws passed which will ban or tax high-quality wines for responsible people while maintaining the status quo for the Buckfast crowd.

19 posted on 08/15/2011 4:00:22 AM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Salamander

I’d be hesitant to blame caffeinated wines for the Inquisition. Seems more like banal political aspirations that pretended to the protective cloak of the church.


20 posted on 08/15/2011 4:04:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I reckon I need to get out more.

I’ve only ever heard of MD 20/20, Thunderbird and Ripple.
[courtesy of Sanford & Son]

Could be just because I really, -really- hate the taste of wine.

[and that stems back to the days when my dad was into finding out which edibles could or couldn’t be turned into wine...it was the dreaded “Banana Experiment” that did it]


21 posted on 08/15/2011 4:05:51 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That was a joke son, Ah say, a *joke*.

;D


22 posted on 08/15/2011 4:06:47 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander
Call me crazy, but I’ve always tended towards *avoiding* criminals as romantic prospects.

 

Me too.  Apparently, inarticulate, violent people with frightening facial tattoos, poor hygeine and no job prospects among decent people make good life partners, at least according to this particular crowd of 'prison groupies'.  I would never have known.

23 posted on 08/15/2011 4:06:59 AM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Aw come on Scotland just let the guy out like you did the terrorist who blew up the jet, and stop pretending you want to punish him!

 

I'm sure that some militant muslim group will bring suit against the Scottish government on his behalf.  Any resistance to such a suit will be characterized as 'racism' and he'll be released as a victim of institutionalized racism, along with a healthy lifelong stipend courtesy of Scotland's taxpayers..

And so the template unfolds again and again and again.

24 posted on 08/15/2011 4:15:43 AM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Salamander

You would be astounded how many women fall for cons, particularly violent ones. Death row inmates receive thousands of love letters every year. There are 100 women (in the UK alone) who have married men on death row in US prisons. I believe there is even a technical term for the condition - the name of which escapes me at the moment.


25 posted on 08/15/2011 4:21:18 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Salamander

Had the World Wide Web been available, it would have been much easier for him to find workable recipes for exotic wines such as banana.

My local Walgreens carries a sweetened red wine called Liberty Creek. This stuff is like a sweet punch.


26 posted on 08/15/2011 4:21:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Stoat

LOLOL!

OMG!...are you old enough to remember that stupid 60s/70s game called something like “Dream Date”?

At the end, you opened a little door and there stood the “man of your dreams”.

I’m picturing the Mr Right in your description...;-D


27 posted on 08/15/2011 4:22:04 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Stoat

Makes sense. Islam was created by a bandit to govern and expand his gang. It should, by its nature, appeal to criminals and convicts.


28 posted on 08/15/2011 4:22:42 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Stoat

what is Buckfast


29 posted on 08/15/2011 4:22:50 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Stoat

No no no!

*Mystery* Date.

http://www.boardgamebeast.com/mystery-date-board-game.html

OMG.....LOL


30 posted on 08/15/2011 4:25:01 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Vanders9

“. I believe there is even a technical term for the condition - the name of which escapes me at the moment.”

Passive suicidalism?

;]


31 posted on 08/15/2011 4:26:33 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Ugh!

I have virtually no sweet tooth at all.

That banana wine was more like rocket fuel.

It tasted great and was sweet and smooth and after a glass of it, you suddenly realized that you were legally blind and then came the room-spinning and barfing.

If you threw a little bit on a campfire, it looked like Napalm going off.

Thank God he get bored with it all fairly quickly.

I always got sent into the woods to pick blackberries, raspberries, elderberries and whatnot.

Chiggers are no fun.


32 posted on 08/15/2011 4:32:22 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Vanders9

OMG...there’s even a book about it.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/s_k_groupies/index.html


33 posted on 08/15/2011 4:35:48 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Stoat

I think that checking into Islam is akin to checking into the Hotel California, you can check out any time you want, but you can never leave... alive.


34 posted on 08/15/2011 4:39:27 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Stoat

"Eyes a Muslim Brutha, I done been manifested by a miracle, Eyes dont eat no swine, eyes dont drink no wine. "


35 posted on 08/15/2011 4:48:18 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Salamander

Real wine can only be made from red Muscadine grapes from the Carolinas, all else is mere vanity. Try Duplin vineyard’s Carolina Red if you want to know what real wine tastes like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxJJuJEh5s8


36 posted on 08/15/2011 5:05:36 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: Salamander
Well that's what I'd call it!
37 posted on 08/15/2011 5:06:41 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Stoat

I am now introduced to Buckfast fortified wine and “Ned culture”. Wonderful. This guy seems unlikely to last a Muslim. The violence part will be fine but the wino bit won’t cut it.


38 posted on 08/15/2011 5:11:04 AM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: Salamander

Yes...a rather disturbing phenomenae for most people really, including feminists (or even anti-sexists); creationists (or even evolutionists who believe we can rise above our genes); Rationalists and Romantics alike.


39 posted on 08/15/2011 5:13:33 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: RipSawyer

No thanks.

The memory of the last stuff I drank *decades* ago is seared...*seared* into my brain.

;D


40 posted on 08/15/2011 5:20:53 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Vanders9

I learn something new every day.

[but a lot of it, I wish I *hadn’t*]

;D


41 posted on 08/15/2011 5:22:40 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander

Oof, the banana “wine” sounds like a fortified liquor. Normal fermented wines don’t have sufficient alcohol for napalm effects. Even liquors used for flambe’ing items like cheese or pancakes are higher than 100 proof and are first warmed for optimal effect, rather than being used cold at room temperature.


42 posted on 08/15/2011 10:36:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My dad was “self taught” and “normal fermented wines” were probably *not* what was coming out of those 5 gallon carboys in the basement....:))

He came by honest, though.

His dad died of lead poisoning on Rabble Run in the 30s.

[high octane corn liquor business....it must be genetic]


43 posted on 08/15/2011 10:59:00 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander

I’ve sometimes felt that sheer jealousy and liberal aspiration is why Uncle Sam continues to insist that all alcoholic beverage distilleries be licensed instead of being sanctioned in small quantity operations as DIY projects (like beer brewing and wine fermentation).

But there’s probably a good health reason for regulating alcoholic beverage distilleries. Depending on what’s fermented and how, there are fermentation congeners of substances that are more and less volatile than ethanol, some which in small quantities add flavor, but some downright poisonous. These would all be evenly mixed in and diluted in a single fermented batch of beer or wine, but distillation will isolate them depending on where in the run they are condensed. On the light side, coming out first, is methanol which is the make you go blind stuff. On the heavy side, coming out last, are fusel oils which can cause digestive upset. If you don’t know what you’re doing you can badly poison yourself and others.


44 posted on 08/15/2011 11:32:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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