Posted on 08/15/2011 8:40:39 PM PDT by DRey
DES MOINES – Rick Perry, on his first day of extended Iowa campaigning, foreshadowed his coming assault Monday against Mitt Romney and swiped back at the former Massachusetts governor and venture capitalist’s suggestion that others in the GOP race don’t understand the economy.
In back-to-back answers, Perry nodded at the difference between his economic record as Texas governor and Romney’s in Massachusetts and then drew a cultural contrast between his background as an Air Force pilot and family farmer and his opponent’s high finance pedigree.
“It’s being able to work with your legislature to get the right tax and regulatory and legal system in place — and we done that in Texas,” Perry said of how he created jobs in his decade-long tenure as governor.
Talking to reporters as he made his way through the state fair here, the Texas governor was even more direct when asked about private business experience — something Romney said sets him apart from the Republican field.
Taking a populist shot at his multi-millionaire rival, Perry cited Romney’s former employer by name and contrasted that experience with his time helping run his family’s cotton farm.
“I was in the private sector for thirteen years after I left the Air Force,” he said. “You know, I wasn’t on Wall Street, I wasn’t working at Bain Capital, but the principles of the free market — they work whether you’re in a farm field in Iowa or whether you’re on Wall Street.”
Hours earlier, Romney, on the trail in Litchfield, N.H., had taken a not-so-subtle jab at Perry.
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I love how “being a purist” is considered to be a disqualifier by folks like yourself.
Did you ever stop and think that maybe we’re in the mess we’re in because “purists” are despised, and compromisers are elevated?
So, do you think it’s okay to kill some of the babies, like Rick Perry does?
I knew you would take issue with that. The truth is, Palin is NOT a purist. She compromised her beliefs and supported the biggest RINO that ever lived, John McCain. There ARE sacrifices to be made. It is not so cut and dried. I want a GOOD PERSON in the white house. A smart person with all the attributes I just described. THAT, I believe, will save this country. Palin will do the same when she is ready to be president, but she’ll still be Palin.
Well, you should be grateful for JimRob’s patience. This should be a Conservative discussion board, but you must understand when you have folks pimping the candidacies of folks that simply aren’t Conservatives, it can make us a joke. Too many folks trying to undermine our cause here and I’ve seen them all come and go in 13 years. If I ran the site, I’d be a lot less forgiving of folks spamming up the joint.
At least I’m glad to hear you will vote for Palin in the general. I do take issue with one other thing, of those running currently, I’d certainly not rank Perry as the best. I don’t really bother with the rest much anyway (aside from the two non-Reagan supporters, actually that would probably be three including that nutter Paul, who is a Paleo/Libertarian). I guess I could call Bachmann a de facto second choice (moving past Cain, my prior second choice up until he apologized for his anti-Mohammadan comments. He was right the first time). Bachmann almost seems a placeholder for Palin, anyway (although her strongest supporters would probably disagree).
The ten years in office have indeed given the Governor some baggage. However, he’s learned and his lessons make him act and act correctly.
However, he just signed a Bill into Law that was one of his “emergency” or fast tracked bills.
SB 18, “Provisions in the bill specify that taken property must be intended for public use, and that a property owner could buy back the land after 10 years if nothing is done with it. The House version of the bill gives the right to purchase the property at either the value of the land at the time it was targeted for seizure, or the current fair market value, whichever is less.”
It also requires a “bona fide offer.” http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2011/04/14/house-passes-eminent-domain-bill.html
Would you feel better if I dropped Jim a line and asked him for his thoughts? I certainly don’t want to be on this board if I’m not welcome. I never dreamed this was the Palin website. If that’s the case, you’re right. I shouldn’t be here. How do I get hold of him?
Ah, remember she supported McCain to show common courtesy for 2008. That’s always the problem when it comes to RINOs vs. Conservatives. It’s a one-way street. We’re expected to support the RINOs, they aren’t expected to support us.
You’re the only one talking about Palin, not me.
And another thing, being a purist is NOT a disqualifier. If a purist can miraculously be elected, GREAT!!!! I’m saying that reality stinks, and purists don’t get elected. I want the closest thing to a purist that can be elected. I’m unwilling to abstain and see another 4 years of Obama.
I know you’re a Palinista. It’s all about Palin. Don’t be disengenuous. We’re talking.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
The GOP is no longer interested in nominating such a person. Purity of principle is a non-starter for them.
They aren’t expected to support us until we gain control. Conservatives fell asleep in the ‘80s. We were lulled into a comfortable, secure place by Reagan’s awesome strength and protection. Then? His 8 years were up and all hell broke loose because we fell asleep. The RINOs took over. It will take a few years to regain our dominance within the party.
Well, I'll repeat back to you what you said to another poster in a bit of a different tone a couple of nights ago. "You don't know who you're talking to."
Can you produce a single instance of me supporting Sarah Palin?
Exactly. Purity of principle is a nonstarter for them. So what do we do? Third party and another 4 with Obama? Or do we take the easy layups until we’re stronger, then hit em where it hurts when we have the strength? THAT is Palin’s time.
No. I haven’t checked your posts. I’m telling you, I’m not into list-making and back-stabbing politics of a board. I’m here to talk. I like to talk, and I like to listen. If not Palin, then who? I’m happy to be corrected.
My plumb line is not other politicians, it's the principles of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." "No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law." "No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.""We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men..."
I didn’t say this was Palin’s website. I said this was a Conservative website and it doesn’t belong to any single candidate (although back in early ‘08, at least, we were “FredRepublic”, and if you put a “D” in place of the second “E” in “Free” you would be directed here). Do you concede in an honest way that there are enough red flags where Perry is concerned for us to question his credentials ?
You believe he is Conservative, but I think it is more that you WANT to believe he is. We’ve been used and abused by pols (Democrats, without saying, but so many Republicans, too) that we want someone to believe in who will get us out of this mess. Personally, we put too much faith in politicians. We shouldn’t. We need to put it more in the Lord and Jesus. Would Perry be better than Zero ? Perhaps, but again, he’s being compared to the worst that ever made it to the White House. The bar is pretty low here.
Set aside everything else, I see Perry as too squishy and too opportunistic. I don’t care who you are, I don’t like politicians like that. There’s too damn many of them. Plus, I don’t chain myself to the Republican party. If they’re in the wrong, at least leadership or some candidates, I’m not going to sink with them. If I go down, I go down with my principles. If that pisses off everyone else, so be it. I know what it’s like to be the only one in a room on the opposite side from the rest. I do it because it’s right, not popular, because eventually I know the sane folks will figure it out. Even if they don’t, He’ll judge me for it, and I do try to be on His side.
As for Jim Robinson, if you wish to speak to him, just put his name in the box and talk or contact him privately, whichever your preference.
Rick Perry Facts: http://twitter.com/#!/rickperryfacts
Oh, I’d disagree. I’d say Conservatives were wide awake in the ‘80s. It was Bush, Sr. who promised to be Reagan’s third term. Remember, too, that in 1988, other than Bush, there wasn’t really a clear-cut successor. As for the establishment RINO guys, they’ve been there for eons. They were trying to undermine Reagan back in the ‘60s when he ran for Governor of California (against “The guy who can win !” RINO George Christopher) and when he ran for President in ‘68, ‘76 & ‘80. One has to be eternally vigilant in battling them.
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